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Old 06-23-2013, 04:43 PM   #551
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just got my 02 legacy back from the shop. She has aftermarket head-gaskets Multi-Layer gaskets with new timing belt, manifold gaskets machined heads, plugs the whole shebang! An running better than ever
How much did it cost for all of that?
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Old 06-23-2013, 07:10 PM   #552
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If you aren't shy about pulling out the motor doing HGs is not too bad. While it can be done with engine in the car you will need to do almost the as much work to get the heads off as to pull the engine. You still need to unbolt motor mounts, jack up engine a few inches and shove it to alternate sides of engine compartment to get enough clearance to remove heads and do a good job cleaning block. My back hated me. I won't go that route again.
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Old 06-23-2013, 07:13 PM   #553
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Forgot to add, I went with aftermarket 6 Star HGs which are also MLS. It seems to me Subaru hasn't done a very good job correcting the HG issue over several years so I'm giving these a try.
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Old 06-30-2013, 10:48 PM   #554
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Just about every engine other than the 2.5s leak as a tech at a dealer I've seen 10 sti's to even some 11-12 foresters w. minor seepage.

MUCH more info please.
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Old 06-30-2013, 11:52 PM   #555
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2001 impreza rs
170k Original head gaskets

No leaks or burning oil any where:-)
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Old 07-18-2013, 04:10 PM   #556
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08 Legacy Outback N/A. Wife's soccer mom car. Internal HG leak at 81k miles covered under CPO warantee. Subaru coolant/conditioner and distilled water from CVS every 30k. I have zero faith in Subaru HGs at this point.
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Old 07-20-2013, 11:43 PM   #557
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I have a '13 impreza premium and am dying to know if this new 2.0L will also suffer HG leaks.

Before hurricane Sandy at my 07 2.5i wagon (submerged 4.5ft under water), it had a bad leaking HG on the drivers side. Obviously Sandy took care of that. Had about 65K on the car.

I am hoping with the new engine, they made sure to address this.
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Old 08-13-2013, 10:38 PM   #558
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Hi Guys, I have just bought an outback with 2.5L SOHC which has a leaking head gasket, I bought it cheap as the owner didn't want to deal with it and now I want to fix it myself.

So my question is what are the absolute minimum parts required to fix the HG as I will be doing a turbo motor swap in this car next year and only really want to get it running temporarily?
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Old 08-13-2013, 11:21 PM   #559
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Hi Guys, I have just bought an outback with 2.5L SOHC which has a leaking head gasket, I bought it cheap as the owner didn't want to deal with it and now I want to fix it myself.

So my question is what are the absolute minimum parts required to fix the HG as I will be doing a turbo motor swap in this car next year and only really want to get it running temporarily?
Hey there new to all this forum stuff but i have a 2000 2.5rs and im in the same boat head gasket problems needing info on what all i need and ca i do this without having to pull the block out?
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Old 08-14-2013, 11:13 PM   #560
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Hi Guys, I have just bought an outback with 2.5L SOHC which has a leaking head gasket, I bought it cheap as the owner didn't want to deal with it and now I want to fix it myself.

So my question is what are the absolute minimum parts required to fix the HG as I will be doing a turbo motor swap in this car next year and only really want to get it running temporarily?

The parts are minimal, it is the labor that is a killer. You will need the head gaskets obviously and if your rocker cover gaskets are leaking, then I would replace those as well. The heads may need to be resurfaced as well.
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Old 08-15-2013, 01:02 AM   #561
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The parts are minimal, it is the labor that is a killer. You will need the head gaskets obviously and if your rocker cover gaskets are leaking, then I would replace those as well. The heads may need to be resurfaced as well.
Thanks mate, that's what I wanted to hear, labor will be free since I'm doing the work (except machining), will check the rocker cover for leaks.
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Old 08-15-2013, 01:17 AM   #562
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Forgot to add, I went with aftermarket 6 Star HGs which are also MLS. It seems to me Subaru hasn't done a very good job correcting the HG issue over several years so I'm giving these a try.
Replaced my RS HG at 185K with 6 Star, probably one of best choice and now has 200k with no leak.
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Old 08-16-2013, 02:56 PM   #563
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Replaced my RS HG at 185K with 6 Star, probably one of best choice and now has 200k with no leak.
Did the original head gaskets last 185k miles?
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Old 08-20-2013, 02:27 AM   #564
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Did the original head gaskets last 185k miles?
Yes, at 185k both sides developed small leak but externally only but never overheat. Replaced HG, TB, WP, CRANK/CAM/REAR seals, VC, and resealed oil pan.

Got it done in Jan now at 200K miles, mostly freeway.
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Old 09-20-2013, 12:05 PM   #565
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From a practical standpoint, if the SOHC 2.5 head gasket is only leaking externally, and not terribly so, is this something that can just be "watched" until it gets worse? Vehicle is a N/A '07 Forrester with 78K. I still need to do a compression test and verify that leak is external only, but based on what I've read, it would seem internal leaks are not common and so it's likely just an external leak.
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Old 09-20-2013, 01:09 PM   #566
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Keep an eye on your coolant and oil to make sure they're not mixing. Top off the oil as needed and you should make it for a long time. I'd rather just let the engine implode and buy a used one complete than doing the HG repair. But that's just me.
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Old 09-20-2013, 03:10 PM   #567
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From a practical standpoint, if the SOHC 2.5 head gasket is only leaking externally, and not terribly so, is this something that can just be "watched" until it gets worse? Vehicle is a N/A '07 Forrester with 78K. I still need to do a compression test and verify that leak is external only, but based on what I've read, it would seem internal leaks are not common and so it's likely just an external leak.
You should do the HG immediately upon noticing an external leak. I used to be in the "it's just external, wait it out" camp. Then I noticed that Every. Single. Person. who did this and then brought the car to me for a repair ended up with dropped valve guides. Every damned one of them. So trying to wait it out was costing these guys an extra $500-$800 at repair time because I had to fix not only the HG but then the dropped guides plus lap the valves to make them seal again.

So, see a leak fix a leak.
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Old 09-20-2013, 05:22 PM   #568
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Just replaced my HG's on a 2006 2.5i with 73000 miles. I first noticed the burning oil smell earlier this year but did not have the cash to get it fixed. Got to the point where I was burning a quart of oil every 5 weeks or so. I would love to have the time and ability to do the work myself, but what can you do.
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Old 09-20-2013, 07:44 PM   #569
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So, see a leak fix a leak.
Okay, got it. That's now the plan.

I saw mention by some of getting the repair subsidized by Subaru USA. Any chance of that on a '07 with 78K? Best to approach it with the dealer or Subaru USA directly?
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Old 09-20-2013, 10:30 PM   #570
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Okay, got it. That's now the plan.

I saw mention by some of getting the repair subsidized by Subaru USA. Any chance of that on a '07 with 78K? Best to approach it with the dealer or Subaru USA directly?
I don't remember what your warranty was but yeah at 78k I'd be calling SoA and asking them to work with you since such an early failure is clearly unreasonable.
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Old 09-23-2013, 12:42 PM   #571
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I don't remember what your warranty was but yeah at 78k I'd be calling SoA and asking them to work with you since such an early failure is clearly unreasonable.
I believe drivetrain warranty was 60K/5 years, so clearly it's "officially" beyond that, but I've read of several cases where SoA assisted in the cost of the repair when the failure occurred beyond that mileage.

Let's see if we get anywhere.
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Old 09-24-2013, 06:52 PM   #572
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I had the 7 years/70000 miles extended warranty. SOA pitched in with $500 when my gasket went at 75k
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Old 09-26-2013, 09:48 AM   #573
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I wanted to chine in with my own experience. I bought an 02 Impreza OBS with an external HG leak about a year ago with 93K Miles. I did the below work with no issues WITHOUT pulling the motor. It's been almost a year and haven't had any issues. I'm at 108k now.

Timing belt - OEM 65
Tensioner - OEM 109
4 Idler Pulleys - RockAuto 100
Water pump with gasket - OEM 78
Two Drive belts – AC PS - RockAuto 10
Thermostat Gasket - RockAuto 10
Head Gaskets - Six Star MLS 118
Valve Cover Gaskets - RockAuto 24
Intake/Exhaust manifold gaskets - RockAuto 10
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Old 10-01-2013, 04:34 PM   #574
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Well, I am in the process of getting my 07 Leg's pass side HG replaced, as well as the water pump and timing belt. She has 100K Kms on the clock which I figured was about right for the timing belt but the HG and water pump is bollocks, esp since I used decent coolant, distilled water and conditioner. I'll call Subaru Canada and see what happens. My other issue is that the nearest dealer is three hours away, and they quoted me $2200/3000 just for the HG repair, depending on whether the "heads need shaving"...:0P
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Old 10-01-2013, 11:01 PM   #575
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Timing belt is 8 years or 160 000 km.. though with the annual temperature swings, the belt can degrade faster. Water pump? Shouln't be due for replacement, who diagnosed it?
FYI, I paid 2k$ for both HGs with head resurfacing.. and I'm not sure if this didn't include the clutch as well.
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