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Old 06-18-2013, 06:22 PM   #1
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Default 04 STi lowest ride height choice without sacrificing handling

04 STi...I have brand new out of the box Volk TE37 SL 18x9.5+22 wheels .. and want to have as little fender space as possible.. what is the best choice of suspension to go with without destroying my Volks.and retaining my handling. Thanks..
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Old 06-18-2013, 08:35 PM   #2
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Few folks in this forum section lower for looks which is what you're doing.

Get some BC Extreme Low coilovers and try not to destroy the rest of your car.
If it's in the budget, I would swap out the included springs with Swift springs.
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Old 06-18-2013, 09:24 PM   #3
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If all you're doing is going for looks and wheel fitment then buy some cheap ass coil overs. BC comes to mind in that budget range.

If you're talking about performance, there's no reason to lower it that much and it's not enough for a quality coil over so I'd suggest koni's and swift or RCE springs.

Sounds like I'm on the same page as the above poster. LOL! Didn't read it until just now. Haaaaa.
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Old 06-19-2013, 06:07 AM   #4
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I swapped out swift spec r's for stock 07 springs and I can say that the swifts rode just as good as stock if that helps. I think they will only get you about 3/4" though.
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Old 06-20-2013, 12:56 AM   #5
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just take the springs out and you will be about the same...you slam that far and you will have no suspension travel left and you dont need springs at that point
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Old 06-20-2013, 03:06 AM   #6
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I'll pile on with my thoughts.

You are going to render the car barely usable being that low. These cars do not do well much past 1" lower than stock. It's your car so do as you wish.

If you really want it that low then as was said above, there is no reason to spend much in coilovers. Some cheap BC or whatever coilover will get the job done. Drop it and drive it SLOW.

If you really want to drive and use the car for how it was intended, then you have some reading to do. Look at the stickies for starters.

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Old 06-27-2013, 05:15 PM   #7
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okay lets start from scratch..seems to me like there are more than a inch of fender gap ..but I do want the gap gone as much as possible ..but I want a good suspension ..I want a usable car ..so 1" is all you guys recommend? if I go the 1" route should I just get springs or coilovers..Ive seen STi with their tires right on the fender and they still race on it ..I just cant imagine they only went 1 "??
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Old 06-27-2013, 05:18 PM   #8
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that is my goal guys..
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Old 06-27-2013, 05:50 PM   #10
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Ive read the stickies and seems like there are so many different opinions about coilovers its hard to make a call..if I can get away with springs what would be disadvantages to coilovers? Ive lowered trucks but never a car where handling was such a key factor.
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Old 06-27-2013, 05:57 PM   #11
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The karlton flares are gonna make those wheels look so sunk in.
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Old 06-27-2013, 06:22 PM   #12
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the guy in the photo also recommended BC coilovers and he auto crosses..and he also has 10.5 wide rims..and you are correct the volks will more than likely be sunk in for the flares..I guess Ill have to get the wheels on and take a look before I decide anything..they are special ordered and will be here in august from the group buy..
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Old 06-27-2013, 06:27 PM   #13
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You'll probably get more help in here.

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=2448193
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Old 06-27-2013, 06:28 PM   #14
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The karlton flares are gonna make those wheels look so sunk in.
This.

To the OP, did you not research all the tire/wheel sizes people run with Karlton Flares? At a minimum, 10.5 is the width you want...and that's without a spacer.
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Old 06-28-2013, 01:34 AM   #15
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I didn't know if the offset had anything to do with how they would fit on the car..they are +22 18x9.5 I wont know till they come in...may just have to roll and pull the fenders .and be done with it..Im not sure at this point..I just didn't want to have to buy skinny tires to fit them..Im more interested in the suspension at this point Ill deal with the wheels when I get them
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those flares do look good tho..but I have already bought the wheels..and they are 9.5 wide
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Old 06-28-2013, 02:59 AM   #17
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You didn't think wheel off set had anything to do with how they fit? ...wut?

Options

1. Sell your car. Lower something else.
2. Be aware you'll be shelling out a LOT more money to make a widebody setup look good AND perform.
3. Go with a more conservative offset with beefy tires.
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Old 06-28-2013, 06:59 PM   #18
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...this post is about suspension..#1 .im not selling the car its paid off..and I have 20k under the hood and working on the looks.. #2 I don't want a widebody they are an endless money pit and I have spent enought money on the car already ..where I thought the car needed help the most (under the hood) and #3 I have already purchased the wheels I want for the car I just simply want it lower it and was looking for options... if people can get almost an inch with a set of springs why spend money on coilovers?
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I think my choice will be BC coilovers ..thanks guys
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okay lets start from scratch..seems to me like there are more than a inch of fender gap ..but I do want the gap gone as much as possible ..but I want a good suspension ..I want a usable car ..so 1" is all you guys recommend? if I go the 1" route should I just get springs or coilovers..Ive seen STi with their tires right on the fender and they still race on it ..I just cant imagine they only went 1 "??

you need to sell the Subaru and get a car that you will be able to slam and not be offended by the looks or the way it will suck
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once again I have a lot of money in the car I am not selling.. I just figured 1 inch doesn't seem like a lot when there are quite a bit more fender gap than that from the factory.. I don't want to slam..I ask what is the lowest I can go without sacrificing my handling
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Old 06-29-2013, 07:55 PM   #22
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You can go low if you were to modify the hubs/steering knuckle. Or buy the modified ones from LIC Motorsports or MSI.


Outside of that, id say no more than 2" on a GC/GD, but less on the new age stuff. Dont forget the whiteline roll center adjusters. Possibly the TIC/MSI shorter trailing arms for lowered vehicles.

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Old 07-01-2013, 07:17 PM   #23
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finally an legit answer thanks
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Old 07-01-2013, 08:33 PM   #24
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finally an legit answer thanks

you got lots of legit answers

you wanna be all k00 an **** and drive a k00-koo kiddie slammer......

subarus do NOT respond well to being slammed.

simple solution is get the kiddie garbage outta yer head yeah RIGHT

or sell the Subaru and get a kiddie slammer

the best answer is not to try to build and drive a race car on the street...it NEVER works with a Subaru...YOU will fail just like all the rest do

but it will look k00 parked at mikkie dee's...because you wont wanna drive it cuz it sucks so bad
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finally an legit answer thanks
You want a truly legit answer? Call Myles at Racecomp Engineering and ask him what he recommends. I promise you he'll also say you'd only want to lower your car by 1", maaaaybe 1.5" if you want to push it.
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