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Old 07-01-2013, 06:22 PM   #1
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Default h9 bulb melted harness

so tried the H9 bulb conversion on my 2011 WRX, and on my passenger side the actual wire harness got melted. Before I jump into this I just want to make sure that I can buy a h9 wiring harness and just cut the existing one out.

I'm thinking the cause was because I was stuck in traffic for about 3 hours in 90+ degree's and usually just leave my lights on auto.
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Old 07-01-2013, 06:38 PM   #2
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Wattage of bulb too high.
Please post pictures of your car when it catches on fire.
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Old 07-01-2013, 06:42 PM   #3
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I figured it was too high, but since there's a good amount of people who have done it (here on nasioc and on other forums [http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...83911&page=13]) might as well give it a shot since my bulbs randomly blew the other night. But i'm not here to bitch about the fact that I apparently goofed up somewhere. I'm just looking to see if a simple wire harness swap is fine or if there's something more to worry about.
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Old 07-01-2013, 07:34 PM   #4
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You shoukd be able to buy the harness from the dealer and its not hard to replace.
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Old 07-01-2013, 08:35 PM   #5
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No, do not buy or attempt to buy a harness from the dealer. They don't sell just the ends and the harness is expensive.

Replace the connector, lengths of wire, and either solder and shrink-wrap or use butt-connectors with shrink-wrap tubing built-in.

Connector: http://www.rallylights.com/all/elect...terminals.html

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If you want to go beyond the OEM wattage, which is not necessarily recommended, then you would have to consider building or buying a headlamp wiring harness that uses heavier gauge wiring, ceramic connectors, and external relays. The OEM harness is barely good enough for the 55/65 watt bulbs in the car as it is.
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Old 07-01-2013, 09:10 PM   #6
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That's interesting, the H9 is technically more wattage, 55 vs 65, so many have done this conversion and there are little reported problems. I had H9s in my WRX for a few years. But I guess you do take a risk even with slightly more wattage.
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Old 07-02-2013, 02:42 AM   #7
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Grab some HID's, the wattage can be lower with a better result
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Old 07-02-2013, 08:31 AM   #8
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ive been running the osram h7 rallye 65w bulbs---which is the h9 burner on the h7 base... in my 06 since it was new....never melted anything

sometimes it not pushing the connector onto the bulb hard/far enough causes water to enter and corrode the contacts causing increased resistance and THAT causes the issue with melting
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Old 07-02-2013, 08:32 AM   #9
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Old 07-02-2013, 01:40 PM   #10
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trust me if I could do a full retrofit setup I would, but as of now it's not in the budget.(and crappy HID in the stock housing is just down right dumb)

Scotty, i'm thinking thats what it is. Probably didnt file the extra nub down far enough and the light probably popped out from the resistance.

also thank Big-E, i'll check that out.

Thanks for the helpful responses as well!
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Old 07-03-2013, 01:37 AM   #11
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Old 07-03-2013, 08:02 AM   #12
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When I went to 130/90 H4's in my Cherokee I built an auxiliary harness and used the old one to trigger the new one. Even the 90w lows were too bright hot for the Hella ecodes so I moved it over to my wrangler with it's CIBIE 7" round old school glass/steel housings, wranglers headlights sit way high so I had to do some serious adjusting down. Aux harness is easy to build, two relays, 10ga wire, shrink tubing, two bulb sockets and one male plug to plug into one of your old headlight sockets and some split tube to keep it neater.
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Old 07-03-2013, 08:14 PM   #13
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I figured it was too high, but since there's a good amount of people who have done it (here on nasioc and on other forums [http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...83911&page=13]) might as well give it a shot since my bulbs randomly blew the other night. But i'm not here to bitch about the fact that I apparently goofed up somewhere. I'm just looking to see if a simple wire harness swap is fine or if there's something more to worry about.
So the other night you popped both bulbs? At the same time? If this is true, than I think there is some other underlying problem. Frayed wire, water or poor contacts that increase the resistance. I've been running the H9's for almost a year now, and leave them on almost all the time, even during the day. Never had an issue.
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When I went to 130/90 H4's in my Cherokee I built an auxiliary harness and used the old one to trigger the new one. Even the 90w lows were too bright hot for the Hella ecodes so I moved it over to my wrangler with it's CIBIE 7" round old school glass/steel housings, wranglers headlights sit way high so I had to do some serious adjusting down. Aux harness is easy to build, two relays, 10ga wire, shrink tubing, two bulb sockets and one male plug to plug into one of your old headlight sockets and some split tube to keep it neater.
yer a real ashole runnin 130/90's on the street...blinding oncomming traffic...real ashole
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yer a real ashole runnin 130/90's on the street...blinding oncomming traffic...real ashole
I'd have to agree with Scottie on this one. A good friend of mine ran his motorcycle into a hill because someone turned the corner at him and had about 6 (90+) watt lights over the cab of his truck, and the high beams on. All my friend could do was scrub off speed before he hit the hill. Asswipe in the truck just kept driving away.
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yer a real ashole runnin 130/90's on the street...blinding oncomming traffic...real ashole
The TJ was an off roader, not even close to being street legal. One other comment, an aux harness will improve quite a bit on the light, the 14 ga that is used in most stock wiring has to travel quite a way from the bulbs to the power source, adding a aux harness with it's own relays and 10 ga wire only travels a short distance.

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The TJ was an off roader, not even close to being street legal. One other comment, an aux harness will improve quite a bit on the light, the 14 ga that is used in most stock wiring has to travel quite a way from the bulbs to the power source, adding a aux harness with it's own relays and 10 ga wire only travels a short distance.
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