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Old 02-14-2013, 02:47 AM   #26
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Old 02-15-2013, 02:05 PM   #27
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Curious if anyone has been using a "bad" filter with a matching date code but no failure.

The Fram (manufacturer) document states "the gasket will either immediately fail or fail within 300 miles of operation." I just looked and the filter I installed at the beginning of this year has a matching date code for a "bad" filter but I have not a drop of oil leaking...

Called my service department (I know) and asked if they have had anyone come in with failures. They said they have only had a handful of them but most of the "bad filters" they checked have been okay/functioning properly. They seemed to think it was reasonable at this point for me to just continue to watch since I'm 600+ miles on the filter and it's functioning perfectly.

I know some will say (and I would usually say it as well) "why take the chance?" But I am uber busy these days and I'm well past the "immediate" or 300 mile mark and all is well...so thinking of leaving it on and watching.
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Old 02-15-2013, 02:58 PM   #28
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Plus, if you look at both the Subaru document and the Fram document they contradict. The Fram document is more to the point - if you have these specific date codes, you are effected. The Subaru doc makes it look like it depends on which shift the filter was made (someone in an earlier post made a comment that only 3rd shift manufactured filters were bad) but the Fram document says clearly that it is irregardless of shift. What a pain.

I called Fram directly and they were not much help. Was hoping for some more specific information but they weren't too helpful...nice, but not what I was wanting.

The Subaru doc has a link to a flow chart Subaru goes through to determine if the filter should be replaced. It clearly shows that, if the filter is over 300 miles, irregardless of any other factors, that it does not need to be replaced. Guess I'll go off that...
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Old 02-15-2013, 11:57 PM   #29
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nvm oops!

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Old 04-06-2013, 10:30 AM   #30
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Question Is Oil Filter #15208AA031 Included in the Recall???

Have a 2013 Subaru Outback with the H6 (6-cylinder) engine.

The dealer sold me a case of oil filters for it: Is #15208AA031 included in the recall?
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Old 04-07-2013, 01:51 AM   #31
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Have a 2013 Subaru Outback with the H6 (6-cylinder) engine.

The dealer sold me a case of oil filters for it: Is #15208AA031 included in the recall?
Hmmm...simply looking at the first post of this thread has links to both the Subaru and Fram official documents which would answer your question.

Since I am nice , I will tell you that it is only for filter part # 15208AA12A and not your filter.
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Old 04-07-2013, 12:13 PM   #32
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Just pulled the plastic cover and checked my filter I bought in November. Have 1300 miles on it since the change and it was bone dry. Hope its safe for another 4k
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Old 04-07-2013, 03:06 PM   #33
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I have to check mines, been running that sucker for nearly 6k already.
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Old 04-10-2013, 08:01 PM   #34
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Curious if anyone has been using a "bad" filter with a matching date code but no failure.

The Fram (manufacturer) document states "the gasket will either immediately fail or fail within 300 miles of operation." I just looked and the filter I installed at the beginning of this year has a matching date code for a "bad" filter but I have not a drop of oil leaking...

Called my service department (I know) and asked if they have had anyone come in with failures. They said they have only had a handful of them but most of the "bad filters" they checked have been okay/functioning properly. They seemed to think it was reasonable at this point for me to just continue to watch since I'm 600+ miles on the filter and it's functioning perfectly.

I know some will say (and I would usually say it as well) "why take the chance?" But I am uber busy these days and I'm well past the "immediate" or 300 mile mark and all is well...so thinking of leaving it on and watching.
I finally dealt with this today at my dealer. I bought 6 of the affected filters in october of 2012. I unknowingly ran one for a full oil interval with no oil loss for 3200 miles. I am currently on 800 miles on another affected filter with no oil loss of any kind.

The subaru tech on hand claims you lose about 1/2 a quart of oil if you just change the oil filter out. Since I run rotella t6 5w40 i was not interested in getting any replacement oil from the dealer.

The parts counter guy offered me 6 brand new filters and 2 crush washers in exchange for the 4 loser filters I brought in, to make me have 6 good filters and 6 crush washers sitting back in my garage. Showed my receipt, and the printed out link at the beginning of this thread. I didnt get any problems and they were more than happy to make me happy. I probably could have gotten more but they are very good to me and I was satisfied with the customer service. Thank you OP for posting this, I wouldnt have known without it.
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Old 04-11-2013, 01:43 AM   #35
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Thanks for the heads up. I never bother with a factory filter but when I went to pick up parts for my timing belt change I grabbed one. Just my luck.
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Old 04-11-2013, 06:46 PM   #36
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Old 04-11-2013, 07:44 PM   #37
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Mine was leaky... This must be why. Switched back to Purolator.
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Old 04-11-2013, 09:37 PM   #38
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i got a wix 57712 today for $5.xx
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Old 04-13-2013, 01:02 AM   #39
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i got a wix 57712 today for $5.xx
Sometimes I can get my PureOne purelator PL14460 filter for around $5.50 when it is on sale....

The rubber seal on these affected filters must of been from a bad batch of rubber compound...
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Old 07-02-2013, 03:26 AM   #40
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Glad i have a stockpile of the black filters!
Sell me some!!!!
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Old 07-02-2013, 09:58 AM   #41
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i got a wix 57712 today for $5.xx
I find WIX and OEM tend not to leak. Purolator on the other hand, despite having excellent filtering quality, tends to leak. Out NA Forester, my WRX, even my old OBS and buddy's 2.5i. Even mom's Camry! All leak.

Never had an issue with OEM or WIX. That's funny because WIX is basically a Purolator, though they feel different in the hand... minus different bypass pressures.

Don't care, WIX works.
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Old 07-03-2013, 08:28 AM   #42
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I find WIX and OEM tend not to leak. Purolator on the other hand, despite having excellent filtering quality, tends to leak. Out NA Forester, my WRX, even my old OBS and buddy's 2.5i. Even mom's Camry! All leak.

Never had an issue with OEM or WIX. That's funny because WIX is basically a Purolator, though they feel different in the hand... minus different bypass pressures.

Don't care, WIX works.
I don't think wix is basically a purolator. am I wrong?
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Old 07-03-2013, 10:00 AM   #43
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I have a whole case of 12 (10 remaining) of A2188X's... yay.
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Old 07-03-2013, 10:57 AM   #44
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Just got back from swapping the old ones... the new ones are still under A2291, they're A2279's, but the package says A37772. Guy at the parts dept. said that their whole stock was recalled and inspected.
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Old 08-07-2013, 12:56 AM   #45
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just got a 03, will wix 57712 work? its either that or im going to the dealership
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Old 08-07-2013, 02:41 AM   #46
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Old 10-08-2013, 10:13 AM   #47
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A32382 is that an affected one?
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Old 10-16-2013, 09:57 PM   #48
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So I assume that if I've driven about 3,000 miles since my last oil/filter change, that I'm okay? Just checked my oil level and its good. No signs of leakage beneath car. Defective filters should be failing quite immediately around 300 miles right?
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Old 10-16-2013, 10:35 PM   #49
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So I assume that if I've driven about 3,000 miles since my last oil/filter change, that I'm okay? Just checked my oil level and its good. No signs of leakage beneath car. Defective filters should be failing quite immediately around 300 miles right?
Yeah, you should be fine.
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Old 10-21-2013, 11:57 PM   #50
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wow, nice post. I need to check my part number. I noticed a leak and I was low on oil...looked like it was around the gasket of the oil filter.
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