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Old 06-17-2013, 02:50 PM   #251
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Old 06-17-2013, 04:44 PM   #252
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Old 06-20-2013, 01:15 PM   #253
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i was planning on +1mm valves, but is physically not possible on my heads. should be back next weekend!
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Old 06-21-2013, 02:28 PM   #254
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i was planning on +1mm valves, but is physically not possible on my heads. should be back next weekend!
your heads are just the SOHC ej25 variety yes? Because there are a couple oversized valve options available from delta cams and supertech. And I know that they fit...

Some other reason they won't work?
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Old 06-21-2013, 05:13 PM   #255
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physically not possible most likely means no bigger valves would fit. the position of the valves within my heads is such that the exhaust valves have no room to go any bigger. i was told that the intake ones were fine, but there is no reason to do half of the valves. the 2000 year of legacys and outbacks were built using 5 or 6 different valve length sizes and 2 or 3 versions of heads. where mine are a pain, another model year may be better.

bigger valves weren't part of the original plan, but chose to pursue them since we were doing a valve job anyway. so, i am back to where i originally planned to be when i started this project.
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Old 06-25-2013, 05:46 PM   #256
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.....and where's the dyno charts?
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Old 06-26-2013, 10:55 AM   #257
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car isn't done yet, so no dyno runs. i will post when i get them. hopefully in the next month or so i will have time to dyno it.

i will post my initial feel of the car when i get it back. should be interesting.
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Old 06-27-2013, 04:34 PM   #258
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car isn't done yet, so no dyno runs. i will post when i get them. hopefully in the next month or so i will have time to dyno it.

i will post my initial feel of the car when i get it back. should be interesting.
Arent you getting it tuned when you get the parts installed?....
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Old 06-28-2013, 10:42 AM   #259
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road tuned. they don't have a chasis dyno.
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Old 07-29-2013, 03:23 PM   #260
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cams are in and car is done!

there is definitely a noticeable difference in performance than before. don't forget... the car is now 13 years old and has 198k miles on it!

mod list for this upgrade:

xcceleration .445 cams
stronger springs
titanium retainers
new valve job, new OEM valves w/seals, and new valve guides

(also added stiffer front springs to the coilovers and perrin brake master cylinder brace)

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Old 07-29-2013, 04:42 PM   #261
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Titanium springs? You sure you don't mean titanium retainers? The only use of titanium springs I've ever heard is no-holds-barred race engines (like Top fuel dragsters).
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Old 07-29-2013, 05:04 PM   #262
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"Notable difference in performance"="It lost so much power in the daily driving range that it now feels super-powerful on the top end when it finally comes on-cam where I can't use it"


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Old 07-29-2013, 05:40 PM   #263
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Titanium springs? You sure you don't mean titanium retainers? The only use of titanium springs I've ever heard is no-holds-barred race engines (like Top fuel dragsters).
it has stronger retainers... pay attention...

Noticeable difference in performance eh? is your butt dyno SAE corrected or...?

seriously... when dyno...?
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Old 07-31-2013, 10:28 AM   #264
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dyno will come. i may try to do it over the labor day holiday.

power in daily driving range is fine.
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Old 08-05-2013, 03:58 PM   #265
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1 week update...

with 93 octane gas and the cams, i got 26mpg highway with the A/C blasting on the ride home from picking it up and around 18mpg city, mostly because i like how the car feels in 1st and 2nd gear.

i would guess that if i drive it normally, i would get around 20mpg city and maybe 28-30mpg highway without A/C on.
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Old 11-28-2013, 10:46 AM   #266
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1 week update...

with 93 octane gas and the cams, i got 26mpg highway with the A/C blasting on the ride home from picking it up and around 18mpg city, mostly because i like how the car feels in 1st and 2nd gear.

i would guess that if i drive it normally, i would get around 20mpg city and maybe 28-30mpg highway without A/C on.
Also, those mileage figures are ridiculous...ly farcical.
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