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Old 08-25-2013, 10:28 PM   #1
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Ive been looking and i havent found anything but im looking to find a good spot to practice some rally driving in western washington. I can head towords the east if i need to but im really looking for a good area around puyallup... hope someone can help
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Old 08-26-2013, 12:15 AM   #2
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Old 08-26-2013, 12:45 AM   #3
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This X-Eleventy.

But I take it you want to be an ******* and **** around on public roads instead
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Old 08-26-2013, 12:56 AM   #4
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Lol @Hondaslayer. You always seem so negative...

Let's be optimistic about this one! XD
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Old 08-26-2013, 01:53 AM   #5
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Lol @Hondaslayer. You always seem so negative...

Let's be optimistic about this one! XD
I can be more positive.

I could have told him to drive west until he hits water, then keep going like a real rally car........
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Old 08-26-2013, 02:44 AM   #6
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Your sarcasm isn't appreciated... Dirt fish is a school btw and I'm looking for rarely traveled dirt roads or even a track.
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Old 08-26-2013, 03:00 AM   #7
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Look in to Rally-X
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Old 08-26-2013, 09:18 AM   #8
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Your sarcasm isn't appreciated...
I always appreciate sarcasm, especially from Hondaslayer.
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Old 08-26-2013, 12:09 PM   #9
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Have you heard of Stinky's Rally Team? I hear his son is running the business now.
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Old 08-26-2013, 12:12 PM   #10
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Your sarcasm isn't appreciated... Dirt fish is a school btw and I'm looking for rarely traveled dirt roads or even a track.
Nailed it.


How about you go for a long drive off a short pier?


Idiots like yourself are the reason we had to ban cruises for a few years if you really want to learn / practice rally, then why not attend a school where you can learn in a controlled environment? I am up in the mountains almost every weekend driving forest service roads, and every weekend I run across idiots that think they are the next Kenny from the Block. There have been several near misses where if I had been even a second ahead there is a good chance my wife and I would be down a hillside So I apologize if I offended your delicate sensitivities, actually, scratch that, I don't apologize. Take it to a controlled environment and learn to race like a man. Real racers don't **** about on the street.
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Old 08-26-2013, 12:26 PM   #11
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Old 08-26-2013, 12:49 PM   #12
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I am up in the mountains almost every weekend driving forest service roads, and every weekend I run across idiots that think they are the next Kenny from the Block.
I wonder if they think the same thing about you?

Just playing devils advocate.
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Old 08-26-2013, 01:17 PM   #13
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I wonder if they think the same thing about you?

Just playing devils advocate.
You mean the guy going 25mph at most? Yeah, doubt it.
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Old 08-26-2013, 01:32 PM   #14
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If this is such a big deal, why not just ban the guy so he can't have access to information that would potentially put a black eye on the community, or injure someone if that's your concern?

I think it's fair to assume that shaming the guy isn't going to keep him from trying, and it's not going to keep like minded folks from giving him ideas of where to go..
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Old 08-26-2013, 01:43 PM   #15
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If this is such a big deal, why not just ban the guy so he can't have access to information that would potentially put a black eye on the community, or injure someone if that's your concern?

I think it's fair to assume that shaming the guy isn't going to keep him from trying, and it's not going to keep like minded folks from giving him ideas of where to go..
Public shaming.

Hopefully people learn this is not acceptable behavior.
From the tough love files.
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Old 08-26-2013, 01:46 PM   #16
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Mountain Loop highway on a weekday...?
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Old 08-26-2013, 02:02 PM   #17
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I guess I'm torn on this one. I'm an adult (35) and am more concerned with safety than having a good time. I don't race (street or track), just commute. As much as I wish I could hand over hundreds of dollars every week to a race track, I can't. Really, I should have bought a Volt. Lesson learned.

I used to go 4-wheeling quite a bit up in the mountains around Stampede Pass. Nobody really cared. Is it the slower speeds that makes it acceptable? I was still driving a "street" vehicle off road in the dirt, just at 15mph through mud and up hills.

I have to admit, I wouldn't mind getting the subaru a bit dirty, even if it was in a big clearing or quarry or something. My car is awd and turbo, but I wouldn't know either from driving it around town. Just doesn't feel special stock and on the street. Sure I can mod it, but why? To make it go faster or handle better on the dirt with nowhere to go and use it? Then have everyone on the internet yell at me for it? It would be nice to go out and open her up a bit, but the Sunday drivers on the logging roads are cloging them up

I feel that if you are going way out there, you are at least making an effort to be where there is no one around. Which doesn't really exist anymore, no matter where you go there will be someone else. I think if you want to go somewhere off the beaten path where you won't run into people picking berries or walking their dogs or whatever it is they do, you have to go all the way over the mountains to Eastern WA. Less trees to smash into, remote areas, long sight lines.

In conclusion:

1. Speeding on dirt roads is illegal (probably) and puts others in danger (probably). Don't do it.
2. If you want to rally, go pay DirtFish $900 an hour or whatever they charge to learn the basics
3. Get into amateur rally racing, ruin your car, but have some fun in the dirt on a closed course
4. Give up your dreams of having fun in a car. Thats illegal now, unless you have lots of $$$$$.
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Old 08-26-2013, 02:22 PM   #18
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Beau, that is the difference right there (well, that and these offroad areas are not accessible for all drivers therefore it is a closed course) 15mph on a one way technical trail (closed) versus 45-60mph on a two way road open to the public with blind corners. Yeah, huge difference.
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Old 08-26-2013, 02:43 PM   #19
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Yeah, I agree. Like I said, if you want to go fast on dirt, you have to get WAY out there even then you will probably run into someone.
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Old 08-26-2013, 02:58 PM   #20
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Yeah, I agree. Like I said, if you want to go fast on dirt, you have to get WAY out there even then you will probably run into someone.
Even getting "way out there" on this side of the mountains, it's still dangerous to see how your car does sideways, because generally the roads have a mountain on one side, and a cliff with a 500+ foot drop on the other. Any mistake and you're probably dead.

There is no safe place to "play" around here.
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Old 08-26-2013, 03:42 PM   #21
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Just get on 405 around 3-4pm any given day and floor it man. Dodge as many cars as possible while keeping her sideways. It'll keep your reflexes sharp for those tight tarmac stages.

If you want to practice on dirt, just head up any local logging road and floor it there too. Don't be scared that you'll fly off the cliff...just keep that AWD pinned and you'll be good to go.
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Old 08-31-2013, 02:19 AM   #23
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i should have been a bit more clear... id prefer no public roads... id rather do it out in a wide open area where i can really just practice the handling aspect. I'd go to dirtfish if i had the money. and IF i did do it on a trail it wouldnt be a busy one and wouldnt exactly be miles of high speeds... more like a small 300 meter stretch of road with people watch at either end to make sure all is clear... then if i **** myself up then thats my fault and I would be the only one hurt good thing i have plenty of health insurance.

dont get me wrong i agree about the whole stupidity thing and people driving fast in areas thats not made for it. like i said id rather not do it on a public road but if i did id find a small stretch, make sure no one is there, start slow and work my way up to a comfort zone and keep it as safe as possible.... as redundant as that sounds.

also no thin skins here i understand where your coming from and i wasnt intending this post to say "hey im a dumbass that wants to do dumb ****" or that im ignoring safety, laws and other risk elements alike.

oh and for those guys that do race around without thinking of others in the area i have a spike strip that you could probably put to better use than sitting in my closet.

I apologize to anyone that i may of pinched a nerve with this post. I really would like it to be in a controllable area... hell if you know of a big dirt area thats clear of pretty much anything that i could get a feel for my car (at low speeds... rarely out of 1st or 2nd gear) that would be awesome and thats the true goal for this post. There was a road back home that i did this twice before but i never went over 4500rpm in 3rd gear. It was also about as wide as a 3 lane highway and no sharp turns.

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Old 09-06-2013, 01:32 PM   #24
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Start searching for rally cross events in your area if you want to get a legal way to experience it. They usually are held in a large field with a coned track. Went to one 10 years ago and saw a guy in a 1971 Pontiac GTO drive the course...
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Old 09-06-2013, 02:11 PM   #25
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Start searching for rally cross events in your area if you want to get a legal way to experience it. They usually are held in a large field with a coned track. Went to one 10 years ago and saw a guy in a 1971 Pontiac GTO drive the course...
I'll give that a shot. Thanks. Wasn't sure if you could just go out and drive the track for pretty much just the hell of it.
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