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Old 08-23-2013, 08:26 PM   #426
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That looks bad thanks for doing some real engineering and making quality parts.
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Old 08-23-2013, 09:06 PM   #427
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great work guys! this looks very well done. do you have any shots showing how the pipe goes over the crossmember? and what size pipe is that off the turbo?
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Old 08-23-2013, 09:12 PM   #428
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Looking good Chris! I'd love to be a tester!

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Old 08-24-2013, 08:12 AM   #429
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i always thought the subaru blue filters were *****house whilst the black ones were the business?
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Old 08-24-2013, 02:42 PM   #430
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That looks bad thanks for doing some real engineering and making quality parts.
Thanks for the kind words!

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great work guys! this looks very well done. do you have any shots showing how the pipe goes over the crossmember? and what size pipe is that off the turbo?
Thanks! The pics shown have the crossmember in place, but I'll see if I can get a better shot on Monday. There's good clearance, about the same as when we had the Tial SS housing in there.

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Looking good Chris! I'd love to be a tester!

Thanks Alan! If we sell as many kits as we've had offers for testers I might actually break even selling this kit

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i always thought the subaru blue filters were *****house whilst the black ones were the business?
So many threads/opinions on filters... I'm just going to say with all the filter options out there and having a wee bit of knowledge with Suby oiling systems, we use the blue filters only.
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Old 08-27-2013, 10:28 AM   #431
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Thanks Alan! If we sell as many kits as we've had offers for testers I might actually break even selling this kit
Chris, I said i would like to test a beta version, I did not say I wanted it for free but if you wanted to do that i would not argue with you!

The EWG looks pretty tight to the oil filter but rotating the gate seems like it will allow you to sneak it past.
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Old 08-27-2013, 10:47 AM   #432
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Chris, I said i would like to test a beta version, I did not say I wanted it for free but if you wanted to do that i would not argue with you!

The EWG looks pretty tight to the oil filter but rotating the gate seems like it will allow you to sneak it past.
Gotcha.

Correct, it's just pointed in that direction because that's the way it was facing when we put it on, off the car. We'll spin it so it's passing by the filter (plenty of room). I think there's enough room for a small muffler too. I'm considering going out just in front of the front passenger tire with the Supertrap just peeking out with a riveted on raw stainless surround.
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Old 08-27-2013, 11:19 AM   #433
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Oh yeah, you gotta get some rivets in thereJK

That will look cool though and it'll be a short run.
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Old 08-28-2013, 06:29 PM   #434
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Filter relocation and run the WG towards the rear of the car would be an option.

Would do you some good keepin' the Stateies out of your business. They sure don't like my EWG.
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Old 08-28-2013, 06:39 PM   #435
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looks like you could even plumb it (ewg) back into the downpipe
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Old 08-29-2013, 08:52 AM   #436
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I believe that was the orginal plan but he decided against it.
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Old 08-30-2013, 01:43 AM   #437
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it would be awesome if you could get this functional with an HE351VE vgt turbo. or a normal t3 turbo flange option? quick spool valve (needs twinscroll turbine housing and non twinscroll manifold)?

i've seen dyno's where the only mod being this quick spool valve and adding 150rwhp on a built supra under the curve while not affecting top end. this is what our cars need in unison with your setup.

could you imagine full boost by 2000 rpm and 350awhp (doesn't accurately depict real world performance)

http://www.supraforums.com/forum/sho...uctions-Thread

** you can even make your own and call it the unnecessarily high torque valve. LOL
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Old 08-30-2013, 02:51 AM   #438
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Looks good Chris, can't wait to stop by your shop~

Hopefully I can take it for a spin
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Old 08-30-2013, 06:57 AM   #439
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Filter relocation and run the WG towards the rear of the car would be an option.

Would do you some good keepin' the Stateies out of your business. They sure don't like my EWG.
Already went that route with the previous SS setup...






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looks like you could even plumb it (ewg) back into the downpipe
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I believe that was the orginal plan but he decided against it.
Correct.

I was convinced VTA EWG was a worthwhile change, with power levels well over the 400whp mark. At which point there are certainly performance benefits. The alternative was to develop a 4" cat-back better matched to these power levels and keeping the EWG recirculated into the exhaust. That seemed a messy road to take as many at these levels run EWG VTA and/or like the cat-back they have. We'll be playing with an EWG muffler as many feel it reduces sound, but still holds the benefits. We'll see!
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Old 08-30-2013, 06:59 AM   #440
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Also, the TS setup frees up some room around the filter so it looks like there is no need for a relocation kit, which saves some money too. I've got about $450 into the one pictured above.
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Old 08-30-2013, 07:15 AM   #441
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it would be awesome if you could get this functional with an HE351VE vgt turbo. or a normal t3 turbo flange option? quick spool valve (needs twinscroll turbine housing and non twinscroll manifold)?

i've seen dyno's where the only mod being this quick spool valve and adding 150rwhp on a built supra under the curve while not affecting top end. this is what our cars need in unison with your setup.

could you imagine full boost by 2000 rpm and 350awhp (doesn't accurately depict real world performance)

http://www.supraforums.com/forum/sho...uctions-Thread

** you can even make your own and call it the unnecessarily high torque valve. LOL
I've seen this product before. The theory is interesting, execution of the design is questionable, and results I've seen go from good, to 'I took it off the car'. If this were I highly regarded modification with lots of data backing up the claims I'd consider it. This is something that's been tried many times over the years (even by OEMs) with hit and miss results (from what I've seen).

The dyno plot you're speaking about is interesting and I'm 93% sure, marketing BS. I've never seen a mustang plot look like right off the machine, it looks more like it was added with MS Paint (way too smooth too). Any manufacturer that post a plot like that should be scrutinized. The other thing is you're also comparing number of a 3.0 inline-6 with a GT45 turbo. VASTLY different from our cars.
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Old 08-30-2013, 07:19 AM   #442
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Looks good Chris, can't wait to stop by your shop~

Hopefully I can take it for a spin
You have an ETA?
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Old 08-31-2013, 11:51 AM   #443
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You're right, poor execution. But bd diesel has done a very nice setup that I've seen in person work great on a Cummins (forced open vs functioning) at May madness. All it does is make it force the engine into churning the turbo sooner.

I suspect there is no decent vgt turbo that will fit and be in the power range this kit would be aimed at.

Would be nice to have some current technology rather than stone age one or the other philosophy.

Either way, can you tap a small line into the ewg dump so I may feed popcorn kernels into it and spread wonderful carbonized popcorn bits at the civic crowd with bad hid kits?

Btw, I ran twin turbo's on my old dodge 12v and it made such a difference in performance. S357 (later a billet s366) being fed by a s475 was 75psig of amazing-ness. Gotta love the built P-pump. Put down around 750rwhp and 1600 lbs/ft

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I've seen this product before. The theory is interesting, execution of the design is questionable, and results I've seen go from good, to 'I took it off the car'. If this were I highly regarded modification with lots of data backing up the claims I'd consider it. This is something that's been tried many times over the years (even by OEMs) with hit and miss results (from what I've seen).

The dyno plot you're speaking about is interesting and I'm 93% sure, marketing BS. I've never seen a mustang plot look like right off the machine, it looks more like it was added with MS Paint (way too smooth too). Any manufacturer that post a plot like that should be scrutinized. The other thing is you're also comparing number of a 3.0 inline-6 with a GT45 turbo. VASTLY different from our cars.
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Old 09-02-2013, 12:10 PM   #444
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You have an ETA?
Last week of Sept or very early Oct maybe.
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Old 09-02-2013, 12:24 PM   #445
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Let me know as soon as you know. I'm going to be traveling some early to mid October.
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Old 09-10-2013, 11:18 PM   #446
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This would look good on my closed deck HoneyBadger build...
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Old 09-20-2013, 07:47 AM   #447
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This would look good on my closed deck HoneyBadger build...
You might be right
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Old 09-20-2013, 07:50 AM   #448
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Couple recent pics...

Shown with side exit dump tube.


Wrapped!
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Old 09-20-2013, 08:10 AM   #449
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Why egt probes on only 2 of the cylinders? And what is the deal with that thermostat housing?
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Old 09-20-2013, 09:36 AM   #450
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Why egt probes on only 2 of the cylinders? And what is the deal with that thermostat housing?
Great questions.

The EGT bungs we added for purging. Moving the setup around a lot during fabrication (on the car, on the fixture, on the car, etc....) just makes it easier to deal with.

That is our High Flow Water Pump Inlet. The stock ones are not very flow friendly and the turbulence has been shown to cause the formation of bubbles. Ours has a smooth transition, large smooth bend, and is made from SS.

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