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Old 09-10-2013, 04:34 AM   #1
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Default Recommended strut/spring or coilover combo for a once-in-a-while off-roader?

I couldn't find anything from search.

What do u recommend for a guy who off roads for recreational purposes once in a great while? Like every 3 months?

My car is Cobb stage 2 and that's about it.
I don't want to go lifted either.

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Will get some good tires for the mud.
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Old 09-10-2013, 08:23 AM   #2
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Considered a forester suspension swap? Anything for offroad is going to lift the car a bit.
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Old 09-12-2013, 07:25 AM   #3
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Considered a forester suspension swap? Anything for offroad is going to lift the car a bit.
Thanks for your input.
The WRC cars don't look that lifted but I guess I'm tripping or the car doesn't look lifted because its slightly sunk into mud.
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Old 09-12-2013, 09:02 AM   #4
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king lifting springs would be a lot stiffer and not as high as a forester suspension swap. you'd want to upgrade your dampers too.

talk to anthony, who is a vendor here:
http://www.vaughnperformance.com/kin...o-place-order/
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Old 09-12-2013, 01:28 PM   #5
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check out FEALs inserts, this is one of the best options I've seen around
http://www.rallyracingsuspension.com/page19.html
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Old 09-12-2013, 04:23 PM   #6
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The forester suspension is a big lift, your correct in that observation. If you just wanted a bit more ground clearance get yourself a set of forerster springs, or forester struts (one or the other not both). I would probably say get the struts and run WRX springs. It will move the spring perch a tid bit higher if your going to try and squeeze off road tires in there. The only folks I recommend doing a complete forester lift to, would be people that did more trail low speed style off roading (i.e folks who like to drive their WRX like a jeep lol) It's abig lift so you need to do subframe spacers to correct the CV joint angle, and trailing arm brackets or adjustable trailing arm's to correct the rear wheel geometry. Being such a large lift, it does increase the risk of roll over in higher speeds of road maneuvers (i.e at a rallyX event or similar driving).

If you want a suspension set up that will actually work better on both tarmac and off road, I can set you up with that as well. You could do Feal inserts+king springs+groupn tops, or Gravel valved 04 STi struts+King springs+group n tops. Both options work extremely well on and off road. You would actually notice a significant handling increase on all surfaces, and the car would handle really nicely in the dirt. Unlike the forester stuff that just makes the car taller. the custom valved an upgraded dampers help tremendously in controlling wheel motion off road. It's really night/day.

Drop me a line on here, or you can e-mail if you prefer vaughnperformance@roadrunner.com I can help you with this, or with any other stuff you might need help sorting for this car.

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Old 09-13-2013, 05:15 AM   #7
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Everything I needed! Thanks!!
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Old 09-13-2013, 01:19 PM   #8
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I couldn't find anything from search.

What do u recommend for a guy who off roads for recreational purposes once in a great while? Like every 3 months?

My car is Cobb stage 2 and that's about it.
I don't want to go lifted either.

2004 WRX sedan
Will get some good tires for the mud.
You're basically asking for a Prepared class Rallyx setup.

Go King springs and some good strut like FEAL, and groupN's... all like Vaugn said. Decision made.

I'm running SPT pinks (thinking of swapping to King-stock height) on Ohlins struts and GroupN/WhitelineCom-Cs. You want struts for low maintenance (and good ones are available on the GD). My car is daily, rallyx, and casual track day.
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Old 09-13-2013, 05:07 PM   #9
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That's actually what I ran my wagon in with that set up (I had a 06 also). The Revalved STi struts+Group N tops+King raising springs. That and gravel tires (no motor mods whatsoever) and that car was quite competitive in prep 4. I beat the tar out of that set up, and other then having to re-grease the rear's periodically via zerk fittings, it worked damn well, and really put up with more abuse than expected.

The interesting thing, was that it also worked pretty well on tarmac. Surprisingly well actually. For tarmac I tossed on a set of 235/40/17 Direzza star specs. I had 24mm bars front and rear (the front which I disconnected for RallyX of course) and the combination was really quite impressive. The mix of compliant dampers and springs, coupled with the increased roll tension of the bars worked nice. No matter how rough, uneven or off camber the surface was, the dampers and springs would just suck it up and keep the tires square on the ground, and the swaybars controlled roll enough to still maintain good mechanical grip.

Anyway, I never tried that set up for AutoX or any competitive tarmac driving. But I think it could have worked well enough for a hot lapping day at the track. With progressive rates of the Kings' it was hardly what you would call razor sharp, but it still worked pretty well. people could never get over how "tall" the car was and still turned like it did haha

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Old 09-13-2013, 07:59 PM   #10
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That's actually what I ran my wagon in with that set up (I had a 06 also). The Revalved STi struts+Group N tops+King raising springs. That and gravel tires (no motor mods whatsoever) and that car was quite competitive in prep 4. I beat the tar out of that set up, and other then having to re-grease the rear's periodically via zerk fittings, it worked damn well, and really put up with more abuse than expected.

The interesting thing, was that it also worked pretty well on tarmac. Surprisingly well actually. For tarmac I tossed on a set of 235/40/17 Direzza star specs. I had 24mm bars front and rear (the front which I disconnected for RallyX of course) and the combination was really quite impressive. The mix of compliant dampers and springs, coupled with the increased roll tension of the bars worked nice. No matter how rough, uneven or off camber the surface was, the dampers and springs would just suck it up and keep the tires square on the ground, and the swaybars controlled roll enough to still maintain good mechanical grip.

Anyway, I never tried that set up for AutoX or any competitive tarmac driving. But I think it could have worked well enough for a hot lapping day at the track. With progressive rates of the Kings' it was hardly what you would call razor sharp, but it still worked pretty well. people could never get over how "tall" the car was and still turned like it did haha

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Really? STI struts? But how did you solve your camber issues using sedan struts on a wagon... and then raising it no less?
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Old 09-13-2013, 09:57 PM   #11
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Why not just get some saggy but spacers and raise the back of the car level with the front. Cheap, fairly easy, and with the stock bolts you should be able to go up around half an inch. Better than nothing and won't effect the handling much at all for when you drive on the road
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