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View Poll Results: Which suspension kit?
Feal 441 Coilover Kit 23 67.65%
Fortune Auto 500 Series Coilovers 6 17.65%
ST Suspension Part No. 90402 5 14.71%
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Old 09-04-2013, 01:14 PM   #26
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you can't knock fortune auto. their products are great and their customer service is even better
By the lack of droop/stroke on them, I disagree. I'm sure they are a great company and have excellent support. But let's be real, the product has shortcomings and limitations to street use and comfort.
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Old 09-04-2013, 05:16 PM   #27
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By the lack of droop/stroke on them, I disagree. I'm sure they are a great company and have excellent support. But let's be real, the product has shortcomings and limitations to street use and comfort.
That is one of the main reasons that I might go with Feal. NY roads are unforgiving and I need more travel than what their product offers.
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Old 09-05-2013, 03:05 AM   #28
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Just for comparison, here's the specs for Feal from the horses mouth:
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About 4.75" <stroke> front, and 5" rear. With 7K front and 5K rear springs and 2-3mm preset preload, a GD chassis has about 1.5" of droop front and rear. Droop is about 30% of total travel.

My driving impressions are that the coilovers do not run out of travel, nor do they feel like they top out.
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Old 09-05-2013, 03:16 AM   #29
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havent tried out feal but im a satisfied fortune auto 500 customer. granted i have the swift springs upgrade but the price was the same as it would have been to buy feals. the ride quality is firm and provides precise steering feel while not being harsh with 8k/8k rates. many of my friends were skeptical before i purchased them but were very impressed when they felt them on the street. i will be testing them out on the track soon for a real performance analysis.
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Old 09-05-2013, 01:58 PM   #30
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havent tried out feal but im a satisfied fortune auto 500 customer. granted i have the swift springs upgrade but the price was the same as it would have been to buy feals. the ride quality is firm and provides precise steering feel while not being harsh with 8k/8k rates. many of my friends were skeptical before i purchased them but were very impressed when they felt them on the street. i will be testing them out on the track soon for a real performance analysis.
Do you do a lot of daily driving with that set up? Also what would you say the road quality is where you're located? Thanks!
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Old 09-05-2013, 03:05 PM   #31
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Do you do a lot of daily driving with that set up? Also what would you say the road quality is where you're located? Thanks!
San Diego's roads are not like NYC roads.

As an ex-New Yorker, trust me, you need travel and don't go too low.
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Old 09-08-2013, 10:56 AM   #32
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Every company has short comings I would have to say.

For me the fact that Feal does not have custom valving, custom spring rates, the option to run swift springs or not, a large 50mm digressive piston, 2-way canister upgradeable, shock dyno charts or a 5 year hard good warranty are some very substantial qualities that are missing and are extremely important to people who are trying to get the most out of their suspension set-up.

Like I stated before, never ride bumpstops, even hitting aggressive dips in the road and never had to need for more travel.

I agree that more travel is nice on poor condition roads, but don't agree that there will be a problem with the fortunes.
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Old 09-08-2013, 02:23 PM   #33
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Every company has short comings I would have to say.

For me the fact that Feal does not have custom valving, custom spring rates, the option to run swift springs or not, a large 50mm digressive piston, 2-way canister upgradeable, shock dyno charts or a 5 year hard good warranty are some very substantial qualities that are missing and are extremely important to people who are trying to get the most out of their suspension set-up.

Like I stated before, never ride bumpstops, even hitting aggressive dips in the road and never had to need for more travel.

I agree that more travel is nice on poor condition roads, but don't agree that there will be a problem with the fortunes.
I don't know why you wouldn't want to run Swift springs which would increase your usable stroke within limited travel, but you can get custom valving and rates. You should probably get your facts straight before making such bold statements.

http://www.rallyracingsuspension.com/page16.html

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We have successfully created a coilover solution that is very well priced and offers unsurpassed performance. The Feal 441 Coilover is a one-way adjustable monotube damper equiped with a genuine Japanese Swift spring. We are confident that our valving profile will yield a very comfortable yet great performing ride for your car. We have spent countless hours testing and are pleased to offer the Feal 441 Coilover kit to you.

The listed spring rates are model and make specific and are designed to work well for both daily driving as well as occasional track days. You can choose different rates and different damper valving to suit your needs.

The Feal 441 Coilover kit allows your car to run either at stock height or as a super low setting via independent height adjustment.


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- One way adjustable, 30 click spectrum
- Monotube
- Japanese Swift springs
- Assembled in house, U.S.A.
- Rebuildable and revalvable in house, U.S.A.
- Independant height adjustment
- Teflon injected spherical bearing top mounts front and rear (MacPherson applications)
- Aluminum top mounts
- Camber adjustable front top mounts (MacPherson applications)
- Slotted rear coilover mounting hole for camber adjustability (MacPherson applications)
- Corrosion resistant coating + Anodized aluminum parts
- High quality low friction seals and rod guide bushings
- High flow pistons (allows super high range of damping tuning)
I don't own Feals, never have owned them, don't plan on ever owning them, but they're probably the best option for OP.

I'm not saying Fortunes are bad. Those were my preferred choice over the BC BR w/ Swift and revalve, but they were back ordered at the time I wanted to order them.

What we favor for our cars, may not necessarily be what others are looking for. Feals will have their short comings, but it does seem like a more balanced suspension for other than competition use.
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Old 09-08-2013, 02:46 PM   #34
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Thanks for the clarification, nobody I talked to said that you could order custom rates. May have been something new, because when I was on their site, I did not see that they offered that service.
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Old 09-08-2013, 06:42 PM   #35
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Call Feal. Odi (the owner who is also a pro drifter) is the owner and will talk with you about anything. They are who you should order from and they will get you your custom valving and rates. I always prefer to go from the source vs from other sites. Especially for info. I just ordered some last week and they build them and got them to me very quickly.

Ill grab a droop pic of mine today because im going to go set my final ride height today.
as for ride quality, they ride better than my blown struts with tein s-techs that i had on before :P
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Old 09-08-2013, 06:51 PM   #36
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Call Feal. Odi (the owner who is also a pro drifter) is the owner and will talk with you about anything. They are who you should order from and they will get you your custom valving and rates. I always prefer to go from the source vs from other sites. Especially for info. I just ordered some last week and they build them and got them to me very quickly.

Ill grab a droop pic of mine today because im going to go set my final ride height today.
as for ride quality, they ride better than my blown struts with tein s-techs that i had on before :P
yea, droop pic would be sweet
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Old 09-08-2013, 08:12 PM   #37
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I've had ST coilovers on my car for about six months/8k miles and I love them. I don't track my car, so I can't give you much insight on that aspect. They're comfortable enough for a DD IMO.
I believe the STs are the same thing as KW V1s except for a galvanized steel body on the STs.
Since you're in NYC and get a bit of salt on the roads in the winter I'd recommend you look at the KW V1s over the STs because I've been told the galvanized steel is prone to rust.
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Old 09-09-2013, 05:21 PM   #38
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Im currently on the Fortune Auto 500 coilovers, 10k/8k spring rates! I have them set to full stiff with recommended preload, and overall the ride is really good! Compared to other similar coilovers in subarus that ive been in, these definitely stood out to me being better then all of them! And Fortune Auto was a blast to deal with!
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Old 09-10-2013, 12:43 PM   #39
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Is that the HTAutos roof vane?
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Great pic! From what Im gathering from here and speaking a bit to Odi, its looking like it might be Feal for me. I just wish the price was a big more negotiable but hey you pay for quality.
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Old 09-11-2013, 01:32 AM   #41
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set to full stiff with recommended preload
Ouch - hate to see that shock dyno
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Is that the HTAutos roof vane?
Yes thats the HT Autos roof vane!
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