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09-13-2013, 08:38 AM | #4826 | |
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I'd venture to guess that nobody would even want to take it for a drive, if you offered it to them for the day... But ask some others, maybe I am reading them wrong...
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09-13-2013, 10:09 AM | #4827 | |
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I used a Garmin the whole trip and it was interesting to watch the altitude change on a road that looked pretty flat. |
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09-13-2013, 11:18 AM | #4828 | |
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09-13-2013, 01:29 PM | #4829 |
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Would that one hand only involve one finger named Stevehnm?
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09-13-2013, 02:44 PM | #4830 | |
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09-13-2013, 03:11 PM | #4831 |
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Corn is subsidized which is why it's so cheap and used for everything they can think of: animal feed, sweetener, fuel, cat litter, etc.
And it doesn't matter how much food you have, starving people still have to buy the food, and they can't afford it. |
09-13-2013, 04:35 PM | #4832 | |
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09-13-2013, 05:56 PM | #4833 |
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The more the government subsidizes corn, the more perverted uses for it industry will find.
Corn employs farmers, dentists to fix decaying teeth, mechanics to repair trashed fuel systems, doctors and pharmacists to manage type II diabetes and obesity, and many others. All of these generate a nice "stimulus" for government at all levels through taxable events. This is the broken window fallacy, and you are the window. |
09-13-2013, 06:02 PM | #4834 | |
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Of course it's questionable how healthy corn is for us now anyway, being genetically modified... |
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09-13-2013, 08:36 PM | #4835 | |
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09-13-2013, 08:40 PM | #4836 |
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That's another topic for another forum, GMO's, but its a discussion that needs to be had.
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09-14-2013, 12:53 AM | #4837 |
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I just had a revelation. I used 89 octane midgrade this last tank and got a significant boost even with everything else being relatively normal. This last tank is 28.8mpg hand calculated. The previous 5 tanks were all mid-26mpg. Trip computer average was off about 1 mpg instead of the usual ~2 mpg. There was noticeably more pep in her step too.
http://www.fuelly.com/driver/hemophilic/impreza I know modern engine control allows for higher compression with lower grade gas but this really makes me wonder. The manual recommends 87 but our 2.0 is a 10.5:1 compression ratio. All of the stuff I've googled suggests higher octane is recommended. Yeah the engine can retard timing to make lower octane work but I'm thinking at least breaking even on more expensive gas to get more range and power is worth it. Per this: http://www.caranddriver.com/features...economy-page-2 "The EPA has a specialized company manufacture small batches of consistent fuel, which is 93 octane (cars running 50-state certifications get a slightly different, 91-octane “California” blend)." I filled up with 89 again but wonder what premium 93 would yield. My guess is that the performance/mpg gain wouldn't be worth it. My station today: 3.49 Reg 3.64 Mid 3.79 Prem |
09-14-2013, 07:45 AM | #4838 | |
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I don't think you would see much difference between 89-93, unless you have a scanner and can monitor timing |
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09-14-2013, 08:22 AM | #4839 |
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I know mine does, I'm not sure if its octane or noE since I run 91nE, but power and mpg both better.
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09-16-2013, 08:05 PM | #4840 |
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Halfway through a tank of 87E0, averaging 39.3 MPG with 60% highway miles.
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09-16-2013, 08:07 PM | #4841 |
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I think the key is noE. I wise I could try an 87 noE. Havnt seen it around here
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09-16-2013, 09:49 PM | #4842 | |
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We're in the same state, about an hour apart. I just found out 2 weeks ago my car is a PZEV. What about yours? |
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09-17-2013, 12:40 AM | #4843 |
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Nice numbers! How many miles on the odo do you have?
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09-17-2013, 01:08 PM | #4844 | |
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i have long wanted to try E0, even if it were premium just to see the difference, but all blends in the SF Bay Area, as far as i know are E10 regardless of octane rating. |
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09-17-2013, 01:35 PM | #4845 | |
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Update: 39.3 MPG, 344.5 mi, 34 MPH average, 3 bars of fuel left. Last edited by Commander Keen; 09-18-2013 at 12:02 PM. |
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09-18-2013, 05:36 PM | #4846 |
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Yeah, mine is a PZEV too. An hour which way? and do you have a Fuelly link?
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09-18-2013, 05:37 PM | #4847 |
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09-18-2013, 06:27 PM | #4848 | |
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09-18-2013, 09:03 PM | #4849 |
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Agreed. I figured that since I bought early I wouldn't have to get a PZEV. I don't mind it to much except for the warmup time in the winter. But, I figure the Subaru engineers know what they're doing to keep air clean and my car running reliably.
I think they eventually went PZEV on all Imprezas. My fuelly http://www.fuelly.com/driver/hemophilic/impreza |
09-18-2013, 09:07 PM | #4850 |
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Yup, all 2013 Impreza's are PZEV.
By the way, anyone notice the new Honda accord commercial that totally ripped off the Subaru commercial (i.e. you buy an accord, take your daughter on a date, and ten years later she is driving it off to college?) LOL |
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