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Old 09-20-2013, 11:12 PM   #51
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Y 18and not 22?
Just to be on the safe side... I'd like just a little bit more power so it can be well balanced for daily drive and performance
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Old 09-21-2013, 10:25 AM   #52
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Search in ppb section. Lots of vf39 2.0 of vf43 2.0 in there
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Old 09-21-2013, 01:36 PM   #53
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Search in ppb section. Lots of vf39 2.0 of vf43 2.0 in there
Yeah i think i might be better to go for a vf43 im due for a tune anyways.. And the 43 has a bigger wastegate right ?
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Old 09-21-2013, 02:43 PM   #54
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buy s2k and turbo it.
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Old 09-21-2013, 08:09 PM   #55
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buy s2k and turbo it.
S2k is too expansive better go with a r32 gtr..
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Old 09-22-2013, 03:08 AM   #56
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S2k is too expansive better go with a r32 gtr..
haha r32 plus import cost isn't too cheap either so..
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Old 09-22-2013, 02:22 PM   #57
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350z is not as all mod friendly being an NA car ( I owned one for 6 years) adding a turbo to it will net you in the 400's but you will need engine work at that point.

Ive also heard from a master nissan tech that the newer models are insainly finicky...
Customer installed the wrong tail light bulb in a 2012 z car ran like poopy after words...

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Old 09-22-2013, 02:46 PM   #58
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Ive also heard from a master nissan tech that the newer models are insainly finicky...
Customer installed the wrong tail light bulb in a 2012 z car ran like poopy after words...

no lie
Listen to this man. Two good friends of mine have Z's and while they produce a healthy torque curve, they're nightmares to make big power without a bug budget.
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Old 09-22-2013, 06:34 PM   #59
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Listen to this man. Two good friends of mine have Z's and while they produce a healthy torque curve, they're nightmares to make big power without a bug budget.
You mean an NA car already making good numbers on a small displacement motor doesn't have tons of potential left on the table?? Color me shocked.
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Old 09-23-2013, 11:21 AM   #60
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Ive also heard from a master nissan tech that the newer models are insainly finicky...
Customer installed the wrong tail light bulb in a 2012 z car ran like poopy after words...

no lie
What he didn't tell you is he ran it down the highway at 8000rpm for an hour lol....

Z cars are fine. I own 2 of them. 03 350z and a 2011 370z and I will tell you I do still prefer my 03 but the 2011 isn't finicky and is also a good car. They also respond to the CORRECT mods well. My 03 has long tube headers to a magnaflow x pipe and 2 inch dual pipes back with straight through resonators on each side, a plenum spacer, injen intake and through my most recent tune put down 301 whp. Stock was around 255 to the wheels. They also respond to nitrous real well but I am not a big fan of it. Not to mention these cars require hardly any maintenance unless you straight abuse them.
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Old 09-23-2013, 01:27 PM   #61
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The 2.0's are far better engines than the 2.5's, as long as you do proper maintenance they usually hold up quite well. A sub 13 second quarter is pretty easy to achieve, even reliably with the 2.0. Your goals are well within the range of your car.
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Old 09-23-2013, 03:47 PM   #62
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haha r32 plus import cost isn't too cheap either so..
That's why you buy an already imported one
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Old 09-23-2013, 03:51 PM   #63
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Like my Russian friend says DAH!
There places here in the tri state that sell complete front clips, along with the tranny, and big brake kits if applicable.
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Old 09-23-2013, 08:29 PM   #64
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Like my Russian friend says DAH!
There places here in the tri state that sell complete front clips, along with the tranny, and big brake kits if applicable.
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Old 09-25-2013, 10:02 PM   #65
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Old 09-27-2013, 06:23 PM   #66
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skip all this discussion and just go buy a DSM... end of story. you can get a 1g for 1500 and run 11's without putting more then 2g into it... or just get a 95-99 gsx/tsi which also can be awd turbo..
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Old 09-27-2013, 07:36 PM   #67
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skip all this discussion and just go buy a DSM... end of story. you can get a 1g for 1500 and run 11's without putting more then 2g into it... or just get a 95-99 gsx/tsi which also can be awd turbo..
Aren't DSMs regarded as poor for reliability? The whole point for him...

I remember seeing the infamous crank walk pic years back.
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Old 09-27-2013, 08:57 PM   #68
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almost every car has some type of issues, some worse than others.

MS3 motors blow at cruising speeds, C6 corvettes catching on fire because of a poorly placed fuel line (i think fuel line), subaru ringlands, DSM crankwalk as mentioned above ect ect.

You gotta pay to play. If you wanna go fast and be reliable id suggest a 5.0 mustang with a few bolt ons or a used Z06.
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Old 09-28-2013, 01:32 AM   #69
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Aren't DSMs regarded as poor for reliability? The whole point for him...

I remember seeing the infamous crank walk pic years back.
the problem dsm had with crank walk is not nearly as bad as the ls motors... also dsm problem was mostly with the 7 bolts... and not even that many. i had a 1997 gsx that had a 20g with supporting mods on it for over 80k miles and never had a problem... last time i talk to the owner that bought it from me was a year ago and he upgraded the turbo and its still running fine..

like people say.. if you want fast and reliable it wont be cheap. if you want cheap and reliable it wont be fast. and if you want fast and cheap it wont be reliable...
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Old 09-28-2013, 12:49 PM   #70
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the problem dsm had with crank walk is not nearly as bad as the ls motors... also dsm problem was mostly with the 7 bolts... and not even that many. i had a 1997 gsx that had a 20g with supporting mods on it for over 80k miles and never had a problem... last time i talk to the owner that bought it from me was a year ago and he upgraded the turbo and its still running fine..

like people say.. if you want fast and reliable it wont be cheap. if you want cheap and reliable it wont be fast. and if you want fast and cheap it wont be reliable...
Ls as in gm ls series v8s? Uhh... Hopefully you mean something else.

And stop the cliche talk. You both contradicted each other.

DSMs are not known for reliability at all. And theres more to a DSM than the motor.
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Old 09-29-2013, 02:36 PM   #71
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the problem dsm had with crank walk is not nearly as bad as the ls motors... also dsm problem was mostly with the 7 bolts... and not even that many. i had a 1997 gsx that had a 20g with supporting mods on it for over 80k miles and never had a problem... last time i talk to the owner that bought it from me was a year ago and he upgraded the turbo and its still running fine..

like people say.. if you want fast and reliable it wont be cheap. if you want cheap and reliable it wont be fast. and if you want fast and cheap it wont be reliable...
Yeah... GM LS engines are pretty much bullet proof at this point. That's why you see them in everything. Hell, the Hennessy Venom GT runs a LSX detuned to 1200hp. And yes, they have a warranty with it.

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Old 09-29-2013, 08:05 PM   #72
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Yeah... GM LS engines are pretty much bullet proof at this point. That's why you see them in everything. Hell, the Hennessy Venom GT runs a LSX detuned to 1200hp. And yes, they have a warranty with it.
To be fair the ls blocks are not all created equal. The lq9 I believe is the most stout of the ls series. Most high hp ls cars are actually aftermarket blocks. But the high hp is actually 800+ not 500 or whatever is considered high on here. Stock ls blocks and bottom ends can hold and make significantly more than typical import motors.... And in an NA setup. They hold 6-13lbs of boost which is 400-600whp not 3-400 like a small displacement motor reaches typically at that level. Of course cfm/# is dependent on more than that. But in generalities they will quite easily make more power/#.
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I think the 94-2002 Camaros look like poo. I can't drive a car that looks like poo.
What do you guys think of the 2006+ Mustang GTs in terms of power capability (NA) and reliability? I'm scared of Fords reliability reputation.
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Old 10-08-2013, 03:10 AM   #74
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I think the 94-2002 Camaros look like poo. I can't drive a car that looks like poo.
What do you guys think of the 2006+ Mustang GTs in terms of power capability (NA) and reliability? I'm scared of Fords reliability reputation.

d0000000000000d...mushtang parts cost pennies.....subaru parts cost dollars
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Cheap and unreliable?
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