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Old 09-26-2013, 01:25 PM   #276
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Definitely stick to studs. I recently redid my garage with OSB, and while it durable for stuff hitting it, it doesn't hold any weight what so ever. I didn't bother to do any blocking in the walls and just stuck to my floorstanding shelves or the studs.

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Interesting. Thanks for the info. So is it even worth it to do OSB vs. drywall? It looks like OSB will cost me at least 2x or 3x as much. Which is heavier? I figure I will do whatever is cheaper or lighter for the the ceiling. I liked your build thread. I just created a thread over there, but I haven't really done anything yet.
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Old 09-26-2013, 04:25 PM   #277
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get that motor in the chassis right meow!!!!
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Old 09-26-2013, 10:52 PM   #278
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Interesting. Thanks for the info. So is it even worth it to do OSB vs. drywall? It looks like OSB will cost me at least 2x or 3x as much. Which is heavier? I figure I will do whatever is cheaper or lighter for the the ceiling. I liked your build thread. I just created a thread over there, but I haven't really done anything yet.
I chose OSB b/c I didn't want to finish drywall. The OSB might have been close to 2x the cost of drywall at the time I purchased. The cost to have it finished and the delay in time wasn't really worth it to me personally. Couple that with a few holes I knocked in the old drywall (what was left of it at least), and that is where I ended up with OSB for the durability.

As far as weight I think OSB is slightly less. There are many datasheets from different building product manufacturers that compare different materials, like this one

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Old 09-26-2013, 11:01 PM   #279
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Old 09-27-2013, 12:05 AM   #280
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get that motor in the chassis right meow!!!!
Plan to work on things more this weekend.

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I chose OSB b/c I didn't want to finish drywall. The OSB might have been close to 2x the cost of drywall at the time I purchased. The cost to have it finished and the delay in time wasn't really worth it to me personally. Couple that with a few holes I knocked in the old drywall (what was left of it at least), and that is where I ended up with OSB for the durability.

As far as weight I think OSB is slightly less. There are many datasheets from different building product manufacturers that compare different materials, like this one

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I don't think I'd have any issue taping and mudding drywall. Or just leave it with open seams. That's just like your OSB is, right? If the OSB really can't have anything mounted to it, then I think saving 2x the cost and going with drywall might be the better option.

I'll have to look into the datasheets. I wouldn't mind work with something lighter, but that's not a big concern. I just didn't know if OSB was even light enough to use on the ceiling. Obviously it would be if it's lighter. Any benefit of OSB ceiling? I don't really see one. Yes, GarageJournal has so many tempting ideas....

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Old 09-27-2013, 10:40 AM   #281
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I caulked some of the larger seems. Some are tight enough that they disappear once you slather paint on the walls/ceiling. It's been through a full set of seasons now and I haven't had any issues with expanding or contracting. Not sure of any benefit on ceiling. I glued and screwed the ceiling. I will say OSB is a bit more of a PITA to cut just right compared to drywall.

Honestly, if my house wasn't a starter house, I'd spend the extra time with drywall and hide all the electrical in the walls, but it just wasn't in the cards for this place.
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Old 09-27-2013, 11:28 AM   #282
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I caulked some of the larger seems. Some are tight enough that they disappear once you slather paint on the walls/ceiling. It's been through a full set of seasons now and I haven't had any issues with expanding or contracting. Not sure of any benefit on ceiling. I glued and screwed the ceiling. I will say OSB is a bit more of a PITA to cut just right compared to drywall.

Honestly, if my house wasn't a starter house, I'd spend the extra time with drywall and hide all the electrical in the walls, but it just wasn't in the cards for this place.
I'm really torn between the two right now. I like how OSB could easily be pulled down if I need to do anything else behind he walls. But I like the fire barrier that the drywall provides. And I think it would look better, but that's not a huge concern.
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Old 09-27-2013, 01:54 PM   #283
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I'm really torn between the two right now. I like how OSB could easily be pulled down if I need to do anything else behind he walls. But I like the fire barrier that the drywall provides. And I think it would look better, but that's not a huge concern.
You should pick up a roll of insulation for summer and winter months. Also do you have any pics of the dccd controller. So back to my original question. How are the heads going to be controlled and the ecu to be used... Is this a dual avcs or single? I might have skipped on the year if you mentioned it.
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Old 09-27-2013, 02:08 PM   #284
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You should pick up a roll of insulation for summer and winter months. Also do you have any pics of the dccd controller. So back to my original question. How are the heads going to be controlled and the ecu to be used... Is this a dual avcs or single? I might have skipped on the year if you mentioned it.
If I can't get anything done before winter then at least insulation is a good idea.

2012 STI long block. I will be running it non-AVCS. Stock ECU.
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Old 09-27-2013, 02:30 PM   #285
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Insulate the outside walls and install a vapor barrier. There are more options than just osb and drywall, I would research it a bit more and make sure the wall covering will work for you needs. Drywall is cheap just not very versatile.
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Old 09-27-2013, 03:00 PM   #286
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Insulate the outside walls and install a vapor barrier. There are more options than just osb and drywall, I would research it a bit more and make sure the wall covering will work for you needs. Drywall is cheap just not very versatile.
If I can get the electrical done soon, I would still like to try and get insulation and walls up before winter.

I have looked up a lot of different options online and those are the two that seem the most common and "best". I don't think I need much versatility from the walls. If there's an even cheaper option I would be all for it.
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Old 09-27-2013, 05:27 PM   #287
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Awesome well documented build. Makes me want to get into a subaru again. I love that you took the time record how the car did stock and then build upon it. Rather than throwing a high number or goal out front, enjoy tinkering with it along the way and see how what your doing is really improving the car.

It's really awesome how interchangeable these cars are also and how easy it is to find good used parts for cheap.

Oh and i have got to find those light bulbs! My carport needs them! Happy modding!

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Old 09-28-2013, 10:42 PM   #288
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Thanks! I do like incremental changes. It makes it more enjoyable during the process. And trying to document things as I go is always a goal.

Another long night of working on the car last night. Thanks to ofspunk7 and DanFran for the help! Here are some photos. I actually decided to pull out a real camera this time. No flash. Those new lightbulbs are working well. The front of the garage (near the doors) is still a bit dark, but we didn't really need any additional light while working on the top side of the car. Just trouble lights for working underneath.

How the night started:



Courtesy table for watching. Also note the extra small mini-fridge to save time getting beer, haha.



5 speed is out! Front axles are out! One was quite a pain.



Stock 5 speed. For Sale!



6 speed shifter installed. I did some quick measurements and decided that the top linkage needed to be swapped with a linkage from a GD STI (which I had purchased). So I swapped that linkage and left the rest from the 2012 STI (has Kartboy shifter and all bushings). BUT it turns out the bottom linkage is also too long. So I'm going to have to take it all back out and swap the bottom of the linkage too



6 speed is in! 04 STI axles are in! Quite a pain getting the axles into the tranny. Seemed even tighter than it was with the 6 speed on my 2011 WRX. Also pulled the midpipe and driveshaft. Swapped the r160 driveshaft flange for one from an r180 so that I can use an STI driveshaft.



Stock 2002 WRX motor on the stand. Need to start stripping it.



2012 STI motor waiting for parts!



Getting the one axle out, and getting the 6 speed back in took way longer than expected. We also spent some time working on ofspunk7's sister's Bugeye. So it was quite the late night, but we got a lot done!

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Old 10-01-2013, 10:03 AM   #289
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Worked on it some more last night. I pulled the shifter assembly back out and swapped on the 04 STI upper linkage as well. Both the upper and lower linkages are about an inch longer. This should have been obvious to me in the first place.

I got all of it bolted up and then found that the metal plate around the shifter (under the boot) was hitting the linkage in 1st and 3rd. After 2 or 3 go rounds with the angle grinder I ended up just taking a big chunk out and there's plenty of clearance now.

The shifter setup is 04 STI linkages, Kartboy short shifter, Kartboy/TIC bushings all around, and the Anarchy Motive heavy knob. It feels really great to actually have it in and move it through the gears. Soooo much more crisp than that stock 5 speed shifter.

My brother started work on the MapDCCD install. He got the wiring harness ready and then pulled the dash apart. He also pulled up the carpet to expose the ECU and started routing wires. That's about all the further we got on the car before calling it a night. I also pulled the turbo, uppipe, and headers off the motor.
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Old 10-01-2013, 01:03 PM   #290
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i really like those wheels on the bugeye, oem+ looking.





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Old 10-01-2013, 01:13 PM   #291
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I have the stock exhaust manifold, so there is technically one header on each side (separate pieces).
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Old 10-01-2013, 01:20 PM   #292
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I've always been a bit confused whether or not to add the S with boxer headers
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Old 10-01-2013, 01:22 PM   #293
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I figure if it's two pieces then it is plural (ie. stock). All the aftermarket manifolds are a one piece header.
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Old 10-01-2013, 07:39 PM   #294
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Thanks for documenting what you do Xluben.
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Old 10-01-2013, 08:52 PM   #295
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Nice job man keep it up..
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So lucky man. I can't wait to see this all done and enjoy the watching/reading the journey. I have ALWAYS wanted a PSM bugeye as a project car. I live vicariously through my cousins bugeye project...

Check out his car. I love it. Check out page 10 for current pic's

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Old 10-02-2013, 09:50 AM   #297
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So lucky man. I can't wait to see this all done and enjoy the watching/reading the journey. I have ALWAYS wanted a PSM bugeye as a project car. I live vicariously through my cousins bugeye project...

Check out his car. I love it. Check out page 10 for current pic's

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=2453558
Yep, I've seen that one! Looks great! But a far different path than this car will be on. That one is mostly aesthetic/exterior with minimal powertrain mods, and mine will be just the opposite.
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Old 10-02-2013, 09:55 AM   #298
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Last night's update: My brother did more work on wiring up the MapDCCD and VSSPro. Most of the in cabin stuff is done, just needs to be buttoned up. Still have to do the connections at the ABS sensor and DCCD solenoid. I also stuck some gauges in a pod, but I haven't wired them up yet.

I moved the intake manifold onto the new engine so I could use straps on the engine hoist to lift the motor. Final install on the intake manifold will be later. Then I installed the headers, uppipe, and turbo. Finally I swapped the sprung 6 puck clutch disk for a solid 4 puck.
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Old 10-02-2013, 05:30 PM   #299
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I added some new (giant) CFL's into the existing light sockets in my garage. Got them based on the advice from a member on another board. They're really big and really bright!




I got these bulbs yesterday! They are HUGE! I expected big, but they're really big!



The lights they replaced were actually 15W CFL's. Not sure the color temp, but much more yellow thank these 4100K lights.

The light output is very strong, and they turn on instantly (faster than the little ones I had).

Here are some comparison photos of the old lighting vs. the new. These are all just auto camera-phone (GS4) settings, no editing.







Hard to get an accurate feel of the lighting just from pictures, but it's certainly a noticeable change in the right direction. Should be enough to hold me over until I can get some more fixtures in.
Holy crap those bulbs are huge! I must have for my garage as well!
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Old 10-03-2013, 09:48 AM   #300
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Holy crap those bulbs are huge! I must have for my garage as well!
Here is a link in case anyone missed it (I have gotten some PM's):

Amazon.com: Eiko 81184 - SP105/41/MED - 105 Watt Spiral Compact Fluorescent Light Bulb, 4100K, Medium Base: Home ImprovementAmazon.com: Eiko 81184 - SP105/41/MED - 105 Watt Spiral Compact Fluorescent Light Bulb, 4100K, Medium Base: Home Improvement
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