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Old 10-10-2013, 05:38 PM   #3776
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.........I was researching and looking at getting either the Cooper WeatherMaster WSC or the Conti Extreme Winter Contact...Anyone have any experience or recommendations between the two?

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The Conti EWC is definitely within the group of top 5 winter ice&snow tires available in the USA. It's a known quantity in that there are several comparison tests of it against the competition. The Cooper is a big unknown to me. The tread design looks like it should do well in snow, but it could be weak on ice without studs. I see a lot of Cooper winter tires here in north Idaho, so they are popular.
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Old 10-10-2013, 07:31 PM   #3777
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Thats the stock tire size for those wheels and the size that I run on 16x6.5 and 16x7. I thought they were a great inexpensive snow tire but definitely expect the common snow tire softness. I used them here near lake tahoe without studs and they did great, got 3 winters out of them driving a lot. No studs.
Thanks for the input. At that tire size they do seem to have the best discount.

It will be my frist time ever driving on winter tires so not sure what to expect.
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Old 10-10-2013, 07:51 PM   #3778
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Thanks, no I havent. Seems like the differences are the siping changes, slight different tread pattern, slightly different cornering block spacing, and a seeming bias toward rain performance....makes me favor the 3D since we get very little rain but more snow in the winter. Probably negligible difference though.



Those are two completely different levels of tire. The altimax is a straight snow tire, very soft sidewall for conforming and give. Great snow tire, German made, studdable if you want it. When on warmer roads it will wear fast. Drives like what it it is, a good competent snow tire in the snow, but when youre on dry roads, you'll probably yearn for your summer tires. I worked mine good over 3 winters, barely made 3, but I drove the crap out of them here in the snow and driving a long roadtrip every couple weeks. Commuted 70 mi, 3 days a week on them.

The Dunlop is a performance winter, stiffer sidewalls, more sacrifice of snow ability for better performance otherwise. Its all about what snow conditions you have to deal with and what you want. You may not need the top level snow performance with a studded monster, or you might. We arent as icy here as you may be.



Yeah, I wish they'd come out and say something about their compound. Video had no audio and all the descriptions I've seen don't say squat.

What is the cheapest performance winter tire? Thinking I will be mainliy on wet/dry roads but not always on snow. Just so unpredictable.
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Old 10-10-2013, 08:22 PM   #3779
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Always feels like a bit of a gamble. looks like tire rack has good deals on 3D's. 205 55 16 is a good cheaper size
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Old 10-11-2013, 04:45 PM   #3780
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Thanks, no I havent. Seems like the differences are the siping changes, slight different tread pattern, slightly different cornering block spacing, and a seeming bias toward rain performance....makes me favor the 3D since we get very little rain but more snow in the winter. Probably negligible difference though.



Those are two completely different levels of tire. The altimax is a straight snow tire, very soft sidewall for conforming and give. Great snow tire, German made, studdable if you want it. When on warmer roads it will wear fast. Drives like what it it is, a good competent snow tire in the snow, but when youre on dry roads, you'll probably yearn for your summer tires. I worked mine good over 3 winters, barely made 3, but I drove the crap out of them here in the snow and driving a long roadtrip every couple weeks. Commuted 70 mi, 3 days a week on them.

The Dunlop is a performance winter, stiffer sidewalls, more sacrifice of snow ability for better performance otherwise. Its all about what snow conditions you have to deal with and what you want. You may not need the top level snow performance with a studded monster, or you might. We arent as icy here as you may be.
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Thanks a lot for the review. I was pushed toward the Altimax on the recommendation of a friend. I may have to reconsider because I commute ~40 miles a day on the freeway. I think the Altimax might be a little too off-roady for my needs
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Old 10-12-2013, 11:34 AM   #3781
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I posted a couple pages back and the xi3 were the recommendation for me, I still haven't decided yet and was wondering how they compare to the general altimax and blizzak ws70.

Also, I'm going to buy a winter set of wheels and would like to know if I'm better off with 17x7 (205/50r17) or 17x7.5(225/45r17) for winter.

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Old 10-12-2013, 01:23 PM   #3782
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I posted a couple pages back and the xi3 were the recommendation for me, I still haven't decided yet and was wondering how they compare to the general altimax and blizzak ws70..........

Rank the following in order of importance to you, and we can give you a better answer:

Snow Traction
Ice Traction
Resistance to Slush Planing
Resistance to Hydroplaning
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Old 10-12-2013, 06:01 PM   #3783
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Rank the following in order of importance to you, and we can give you a better answer:

Snow Traction (1)
Ice Traction (2)
Resistance to Slush Planing (3)
Resistance to Hydroplaning(6)
Dry Handling & Braking (4)
Wet Handling & Braking(5)
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Old 10-12-2013, 06:33 PM   #3784
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Exiled ^^ :By most subjective reports, the Altimax is excellent in deep snow, despite it's dated tread design. But it very likely lags well behind the Xi3, WS70, R2 in ice traction, unless you have it studded. I haven't seen anything about its slush performance in tests. You can check out tirerack reviews for subjective comments about its slush performance. The Xi3 does better than average in wet/dry and very well on groomed test track snow, but some customer reviews say it is weak in deep snow and slush. The WS70 and Nokian R2 are very good on ice, better than the Xi3, and also probably better in deep snow, but worse in wet/dry handling. Haven't seen any slush planing test results on them. For snow and ice, choose the WS70 if you don't put on a lot of miles during winter. If you drive a lot in the winter, then the R2 may be more cost effective, because of longer usable tread life and lower rolling resistance.
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Old 10-13-2013, 12:59 AM   #3785
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Thank you very much for the informative reply. You helped me make up my mind, I will probably get the blizzaks unless I can find Nokians cheaper. Locally they are $950 for a set.

The only other thing I'm not sure on is if I should get them in 205/50 or 225/45. I apologize for the questions, I've only ever run A/S.

Thanks again
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Old 10-13-2013, 10:00 AM   #3786
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Thank you very much for the informative reply. You helped me make up my mind, I will probably get the blizzaks unless I can find Nokians cheaper. Locally they are $950 for a set.

The only other thing I'm not sure on is if I should get them in 205/50 or 225/45. I apologize for the questions, I've only ever run A/S.

Thanks again
For the Nokians, check www.tiresbyweb.com , no sale tax and free shipping.
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Old 10-13-2013, 11:54 AM   #3787
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.............The only other thing I'm not sure on is if I should get them in 205/50 or 225/45. I apologize for the questions, I've only ever run A/S.

Thanks again
Get the 205/50, mounted on a 6"-7" wheel, for best performance in snow and slush and standing water.
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Old 10-13-2013, 10:00 PM   #3788
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Default Winter Tire help for a 2007 subaru impreza

Buying a stock 2007 subaru impreza on tuesday and i need some suggestions for what good winter tires would be for driving to ski resorts in colorado, deep snow and ice are ahead for my winter driving and have looked at blizzaks but seem pricey. any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
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Old 10-14-2013, 11:07 AM   #3789
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A studded General Altimax Arctic is probably cheaper than a Blizzak WS70, and should work well on ice and deep snow.
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Old 10-14-2013, 11:11 AM   #3790
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Buying a stock 2007 subaru impreza on tuesday and i need some suggestions for what good winter tires would be for driving to ski resorts in colorado, deep snow and ice are ahead for my winter driving and have looked at blizzaks but seem pricey. any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Congrats on the car purchase. I would also suggest looking at your situation from a different angle. You will be working in the mecca of what the Subaru is known for, superb to be drive in and also made for. Consider a set of tires as your (particularly) main, best and most important investment.

A set of the MOST expensive tires is still cheaper than replacing any body panels, parts, calling tow trucks to get you off the mountains etc.

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Old 10-15-2013, 02:22 PM   #3791
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I have a 13 wrx sedan and am debating myself whether to get the WRG 3 or the Hakka R2. I live in the Seattle area and put around 1200 miles a month on my car. Is the winter tire worth buying for the 2-3 snow events a year? I've read the available reviews and still havent made up my mind. I am getting steel wheels and going to a 215-55-16 tire which has the same diameter as the stock tire. Any thoughts?
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Old 10-15-2013, 02:29 PM   #3792
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Are you more concerned about snow or ice in Seattle?
What is "snow event"?

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Old 10-15-2013, 02:44 PM   #3793
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I can answer that: Snow that is not dealt with properly and then sorta melts and sorta refreezes overnight. The result is hard packed sorta slipper stuff with some ice patches. At least that is my experience. Every single street becomes a parking lot. It's pathetic haha.

I have some studless snows from a few winters ago (not anything good) and they have worked out great. They aren't gonna save you on the ice but I've never had a problem going up to the mountains or on any hills around Seattle or the suburbs.
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Old 10-15-2013, 03:09 PM   #3794
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tires only or winter package: Will be in need of both wheels and tires. I've been told break clearance is an issue, but I am new to Subarus. While we don't get much snow in the winter I travel to the east side of the state quite a bit so I need the tires to work in worse conditions than typical Seattle weather.
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Old 10-15-2013, 03:19 PM   #3795
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For ice studded are good near freezing temperature.
If ice is cold or studs are illegal or too noisy then studless tires like Bridgestone Blizzak WS.., Michelin Xice Xi2 or 3, Nokian Hakkapellitta R/R2 and last but not least Continental ExtremeWinterContact are good choice.

Wet and dry will suffer compared to all seasons or winter performance but ice performance will be much better (as long as magic compound in case of some tires - namely WS, others may too, is still present - it wears quickly on non snow or ice).

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Old 10-15-2013, 03:50 PM   #3796
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I am getting the 16 in. package with steel wheels.
I will have them on from Oct. to April. I know that the winter tires wear fast on dry pavement, hence my looking at the all weather tires. Seattle is not capable at snow removal and I live on the highest hill in town. I may just buy the Hakka's for those three or four days so I can get to work. When it snows in Seattle the clown car drivers come out for the first day and are not seen again till they get their cars out of the ditches.


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For ice studded are good near freezing temperature.
If ice is cold or studs are illegal or too noisy then studless tires like Bridgestone Blizzak WS.., Michelin Xice Xi2 or 3, Nokian Hakkapellitta R/R2 and last but not least Continental ExtremeWinterContact are good choice.

Wet and dry will suffer compared to all seasons or winter performance but ice performance will be much better (as long as magic compound in case of some tires - namely WS, others may too, is still present - it wears quickly on non snow or ice).

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They do wear quickly, only the outer 60% of the rubber is the good winter compound, underneath is A/S compound on most all of the studless variety. Still will last in comparison to a studded, 2 winters out of both kinds usually, either the good rubber wears through finally or studs start coming thru the inside or have shed altogether.
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Two seasons for a set of good tires is still cheaper than a crushed bumper or fender.
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Hey Guys,
Buying some winter tires in the very very near future, and I have done a few weeks worth of reading and research...and well.....it has only confused me even more..

I have a 2013 WRX, that I purchased 04 STi BBS wheels (17x7.5) for winter use...What size winter tires do I want to buy for these, so that they don't look too tiny (205/50-17?) and so that they don't rub (225/45-17?)

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