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Old 03-18-2010, 09:04 PM   #26
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wouldn't that be pointless! You would run like 13 psi!

sorry im not a tuner i dont know how to tune cars or how much fuel you would need for e85. i knew it was more but idk how much more...
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Old 03-18-2010, 09:11 PM   #27
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can you tune a stage 2 (only turboback) 09 to run on e85 with stock injectors?
No, that really wouldn't work. You generally need about 30-40% extra fueling capacity to safely run E85. You'd have to run very little boot up top to be able to fuel it properly with stock injectors. I usually recommend at least 850cc injectors for any VF series turbo.

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Old 03-18-2010, 09:13 PM   #28
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No, that really wouldn't work. You generally need about 30-40% extra fueling capacity to safely run E85. You'd have to run very little boot up top to be able to fuel it properly with stock injectors. I usually recommend at least 850cc injectors for any VF series turbo.

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would that need a fuel pump?
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Old 03-18-2010, 09:34 PM   #29
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would that need a fuel pump?
Yep, a walbro is definitely recommended.

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Old 03-18-2010, 09:59 PM   #30
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Yep, a walbro is definitely recommended.

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to gain top end right?
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Old 03-18-2010, 10:04 PM   #31
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to gain top end right?
No, to be able to supply enough fuel . The stock pump won't be able to keep up with the fuel demands.

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Old 03-18-2010, 10:46 PM   #32
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wow this is ****ing sick! looks like fmic is my next majore power mod
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Old 03-19-2010, 03:10 PM   #33
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wow this is ****ing sick! looks like fmic is my next majore power mod



they got the front mount because the top mount couldnt cool the air effeciently at above 18 psi....an aftermarket top mount would have probably yeilded very similar results. aftermarket IC's are not power mods alone , they allow more air to be cooled...

for example if you put a front mount on a basic ots stage 2 setup. youd probably see more turbo lag than power gains. thats because your not running any more boost,if it was a custom tune(opensource) than it would be a whole different story, like this fella over here who started this tread...
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Old 03-19-2010, 03:38 PM   #34
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Holy crap that's some crazy power out of a stock turbo wrx!
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Old 03-19-2010, 05:01 PM   #35
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they got the front mount because the top mount couldnt cool the air effeciently at above 18 psi....an aftermarket top mount would have probably yeilded very similar results. aftermarket IC's are not power mods alone , they allow more air to be cooled...

for example if you put a front mount on a basic ots stage 2 setup. youd probably see more turbo lag than power gains. thats because your not running any more boost,if it was a custom tune(opensource) than it would be a whole different story, like this fella over here who started this tread...
That's very true. An upgraded intercooler will only make power if the original one was inefficient at the given flow rates. Bigger is not always better . This customer chose to go with a FMIC instead of a TMIC because we haven't seen a well fitting TMIC yet for the 09 WRX.

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Old 03-19-2010, 05:02 PM   #36
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Holy crap that's some crazy power out of a stock turbo wrx!
Remember that this is an 09 WRX which has a turbo that's sized very similarly to an STI

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Old 03-20-2010, 03:35 AM   #37
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they got the front mount because the top mount couldnt cool the air effeciently at above 18 psi....an aftermarket top mount would have probably yeilded very similar results. aftermarket IC's are not power mods alone , they allow more air to be cooled...

for example if you put a front mount on a basic ots stage 2 setup. youd probably see more turbo lag than power gains. thats because your not running any more boost,if it was a custom tune(opensource) than it would be a whole different story, like this fella over here who started this tread...



i know that, i never stated in my post that i was expecting power off the pure fmic alone...

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Old 03-22-2010, 07:42 PM   #38
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Ed how many data points do you u usually use in your road dynos? how about the smoothing?
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Old 03-23-2010, 12:25 AM   #39
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I use as many data points as the log contains and I don't have an actual smoothing setting... its variable depending on data rate. The more data, the more detail it can accurate show.

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Old 10-23-2013, 12:35 AM   #40
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Not bad numbers... I got a 09 also with fmic, fuel pump and 3"tbe straight pipe and I'm making 315awhp with 348awtq on 91 and stock injectors... And that's only at 18.5 psi peak and I'm at 7200 above sea level and it was also 102 when I dynoed... And I'm about to get 1000cc and E85 tune so my numbers should be interesting
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Old 10-23-2013, 12:01 PM   #41
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Haha. Blast from the past! I has some really interesting e85 charts to post

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Old 10-23-2013, 12:27 PM   #42
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Let's see them... I got Cameron with CamTuning here in NM and he is just a straight miracle worker with subis... Especially his and another that they call vader... Both at 820+awhp
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Old 10-23-2013, 08:53 PM   #43
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they got the front mount because the top mount couldnt cool the air effeciently at above 18 psi....an aftermarket top mount would have probably yeilded very similar results. aftermarket IC's are not power mods alone , they allow more air to be cooled...

for example if you put a front mount on a basic ots stage 2 setup. youd probably see more turbo lag than power gains. thats because your not running any more boost,if it was a custom tune(opensource) than it would be a whole different story, like this fella over here who started this tread...
The turbo lag doesnt change its the throttle response cause the piping is soo long. the lag is so negligable on the street you can hardly notice.
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Old 10-24-2013, 11:45 AM   #44
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Let's see them... I got Cameron with CamTuning here in NM and he is just a straight miracle worker with subis... Especially his and another that they call vader... Both at 820+awhp
Quoted just for the pure awesomeness of a suburu at 820+ WHP.

Not saying not possible but dyno graph pics or shens........
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Old 10-25-2013, 02:34 PM   #45
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Quoted just for the pure awesomeness of a suburu at 820+ WHP.

Not saying not possible but dyno graph pics or shens........
If you got a Facebook look up camtuning... He is located in rio rancho nm, has been featured on garage built cars his car is a sleeper 06 wrx wagon I believe is the year and then he is tuning one called vader that is also from the same city and is in the 800+ range... I don't have Facebook anymore so I can't get pictures
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Old 10-25-2013, 02:47 PM   #46
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Like at FTW purple on YouTube and that's vader a few months ago... He has more power now...
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