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Old 10-28-2013, 06:56 PM   #1
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I want to make a step into upgrading my audio system, something to work on during windows up season (Winter). One that has caught my eye was the Kenwood DDX470, seems to have the features I want and I can find it for a reasonable price ($300). I also will get a Bezel to complete the look and keep it clean.

I want to maintain all the steering wheel controls as factory and use the USB port to charge my phone, I have seen some suggested steering control harnesses but not sure if that is the one I should use or if there are other better ones out there? I'm going to guess you can get a harness to maintain the factory abilities as mentioned.

Anyone have any experience with this unit?

After I put in a HU, I will go after some speakers and an under seat amp, but that will be for another day.
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Old 10-28-2013, 07:17 PM   #2
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ae64.com for the SWC. Does the WRX have the armrest USB? If so, you can get an adapter/USB cable from the same site/guy, do a quick solder job, then plug into the factory harness.

Use this on my 2013 Impreza Sport and non of the SWCs are mapped to the bluetooth which I dont really care about. You can reprogram the thing if you really want.
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Old 11-11-2013, 06:52 PM   #3
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If you mean the one that is inside the center console with the AUX port and power then yes.

Is anyone running the DDX470 and are they happy with it? Are there features you wish it had? One thing I was wondering was if it would display who was calling and the text message?

If people seem to like the DDX470 I will get it or if you can recommend other good ones for $300-$350.
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Old 11-11-2013, 07:09 PM   #4
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In addition to that unit, I was looking at a Rockford Fosgate R600X5 for an amp and a JL CS110-WXv2 sub. I am going to leave the speakers stock for now (not sure the max watts they can handle).

Besides the HU and steering harness, Amp, Sub, what else do I need to make this work?
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Old 11-11-2013, 11:31 PM   #5
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I am running the DDX418 which is the predecessor to the 470. I upgraded the speakers to the Kenwood Performance Series and also added a Kenwood KSC-SW11 underseat Subwoofer.

All-in-all, I couldn't be more pleased with the new sound. And the streaming bluetooth works great with the iPhone 5s and Spotify as well as the handsfree phone.

The downside - I don't get any onscreen information for music. The phone works great.
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Old 11-12-2013, 12:31 AM   #6
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I've been running the DDX470 for about a month now. Biggest downside to it, for me at least, is that Kenwood has been moving away from add-on navigation units and now is selling only integrated navigation. There's no factory navigation available for that headunit, though if you're rocking an iPhone, I believe there's a garmin app that will effectively run from the headunit.

You will get onscreen information for the music, though you need to use the proprietary Kenwood ipod cable for proper operation. Pandora streaming is nice, iPhones have to do it over USB if you want headunit control. I don't get album art when streaming over bluetooth with my Android, however. Not sure if that's a configuration issue on my part or a limitation of the BT protocol.

I paid $264 shipped on Amazon for it.
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Old 11-12-2013, 03:39 PM   #7
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I went to the local audio shop to see what could be done and after looking at a HU, amp, sub, and speakers, we were looking at $2400...not doing it.

When I was looking at the DDX470, I thought it was the 7" not the 6.1" so now I am considering the DDX770 if I stay with Kenwood or the Pioneer AVH-X5500BHS which are both 7". One thing I liked about the DDX770 was the ability to angle the screen to about 6 or 8 different angles. Price isn't too bad.

I talked to the guy there about the steering control and reading an install thread on a similar unit with the harnesses from ae64, nothing was mentioned about getting the steering wheel interface module, was wondering if that was needed or if that was another $130 parts and labor he was trying to get me to bite on.

I am mainly going to use the BT for music streaming and want to maintain use of the USB to charge my phone, is the Kenwood iPod cable still needed for that? At this point I am going to plan on getting the cable and hoping I can use it out of the center console USB to keep wires hidden.
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Old 11-12-2013, 04:10 PM   #8
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Does the 20 combo harness allow you to keep all factory steering controls and create a simple plug and play set up and no need for the steering control module?
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When I was looking at the DDX470, I thought it was the 7" not the 6.1" so now I am considering the DDX770 if I stay with Kenwood or the Pioneer AVH-X5500BHS which are both 7". One thing I liked about the DDX770 was the ability to angle the screen to about 6 or 8 different angles. Price isn't too bad.
I went with the 470 over the 770 mostly because I wanted rotary volume control instead of having to find the correct button. Steering wheel controls could negate a lot of that requirement for me, but alas, my car is too old to have them.

I believe the steering wheel control interface is one of the 3.5mm jacks on the back of the unit, so the module is indeed required.
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I'm running ddx470. I grounded my handbrake instead of buying a bypass and it works great. I also bough an extension off of eBay so not I have my USB and aux plugins next to my cig lighter. I use spotify and can change the songs through my head unit. If you're going to use nav. I bought the motion x $.99 app, doesn't look as we'll but I can see my maps on my HU. ( you need the kca-ip202 cable for that). Also I would get it to watch videos on the head unit. I have a 2010 2.5i and am changing my front speakers to alpine sps600 and I'll do the rears later. ( my buddy got a truck and changed the speakers so he gave me the alpine for cheap bc they were in the truck)
I have watched DVDs on it and they look alright.
I $400 paid for everything. And I love the HU and my extension. It looks sorta flush and am thinking about putti got further back. I ran my mic under my dash through the airbag panel through the sealing to right next to the rear view mirror. I bent the microphone mount to it would angle right and it looks great. Almost OEM. After rear door speakers I'll get a good sub and mount it on top on my spare tire so it won't take up any usable space. I will also put sound deadening on my doors so it will sound better and maybe under carpet to take away engine and road noise.
Sorry for rambling on.
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Old 11-13-2013, 08:58 PM   #11
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If you get a aux extension make sure it works with video too if you're going to use the ip202 cable.
Try crutchfield and see if they have steering wheel controls.
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Old 11-14-2013, 02:33 AM   #12
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FYI, the dock connector you end up with using the Kenwood iPod cable has a decent bit of reach. I have mine routed to my armrest pocket, and I've got plenty of cable left over. Using android and streaming pandora over bluetooth, I haven't really used any other source. It's just so easy to get in the car and go, and pandora starts on it's own. The iPod has been assigned video/movie duties now.
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Old 11-14-2013, 04:46 AM   #13
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Nearly all "name brand" aftermarket HUs (Kenwood, Pioneer, Alpine, etc.) do also require a steering wheel interface module. See this page for more info.

As for using an iPod/iPhone, also see the info and link in the "aux" section on that page.

My 20-pin combined harness is mainly for people who are keeping the factory head unit and want to add things (subwoofer, amp, add-on Bluetooth kit, etc.), or to tap into or cut factory wires (e.g., tap power and illumination for gauges or other custom lighting projects, or cut the CAN or VSS wires to disable lockouts some of the factory HUs have). There's usually no reason to get the combo harness if you're installing an aftermarket HU.

On most Kenwoods and JVCs, you can bypass by simply grounding the HU's parking brake lead.

On other brands, you may need a relay (or, preferably, a solid-state "micro bypass" device). Google your HU model number and "parking brake bypass" to find ones that will work with your model. Note that some vendors try to sell you one for a Kenwood even though it's not necessary.

I've heard that on all HUs intended for markets outside the US you can simply ground the HU's parking brake lead.
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