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Old 09-14-2013, 08:37 AM   #26
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Sorry to hijack the thread, but I washed and clay barred my new car for the first time yesterday. Anyway, the whole process took longer than I expected. I planned to wax after I used the clay bar (silver car so I didn't feel like it needed a polish) but I ran out of time and had to pick up my daughter. Basically, the clean car was driven 3 miles and back. I'm new to all of this so I have a question: I would still like to wax the car, so my question is, do I just need to wash the car before I wax today? Thanks
Yup. What type of wax do you plan on using?
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Old 09-14-2013, 09:43 AM   #27
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Old 09-16-2013, 02:01 PM   #28
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wash once a week
wax once every 3 months
polish every 6 months and clay bar once a year

I only use menzerna polishes. ive found that they make the best most reliable products. ive cleaned everything from Bentleys and Porches to minivans of soccer moms with 4 kids with menzerna.

I used to use another wax but tried the menzerna power sealant this weekend on a whim. its laughable how easy it went on and off. I cant speak to durablity though. only time will tell.

if you are looking for the least effort and most reward use Klasse cleaner wax. its quick and easy but doesnt last very long.
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Old 09-25-2013, 04:41 PM   #29
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Old 10-16-2013, 11:38 PM   #30
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What's the benefit of using a clay bar? My ex husband got our 2006 Legacy detailed and got the clay bar treatment a couple years ago. I need to get it detailed again to get it ready to sell, is it worth it to get the clay bar done again?
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Old 10-17-2013, 12:43 AM   #31
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What's the benefit of using a clay bar? My ex husband got our 2006 Legacy detailed and got the clay bar treatment a couple years ago. I need to get it detailed again to get it ready to sell, is it worth it to get the clay bar done again?
Most people over look the clay bar process. What it does is removed the contaminants stuck in the top clear coat of your paint. Its nearly impossible to really see all the dirt and debris that is stuck in the paint but trust me, its definitely in there . Especially if you have never done this before! I usually do it about 2-3 times a year and then wax/seal it afterwards. You can buy the claybar kit at walmart,target, or any auto parts store. You can also order the clay bars in different weights or portions and different types of clay for more abrasive duties. A clay bar is good just to have on hand if you get any over spray or any random mishaps you may encounter over time. But since its your first time, id just go het a cheap kit that includes the clay bars,microfiber, and spray(for lubrication). Make sure to wash car before and after you clay bar a car. Also you should always seal your paint afterwards too.
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Old 10-17-2013, 09:23 PM   #32
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+1 on clay bar!

And how on earth do you get away with claying 1x a year!? ...Well i guess if you have a garage and live in the city... Damn city dwellers!
Living on dirt roads, in the North East, without a garage and using the car as a daily driver... claying is more like every other wash, especially on side panels! LMAO!
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Old 10-19-2013, 02:10 AM   #33
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Any special strategy to polishing in comparison to waxing?
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Old 10-19-2013, 03:03 AM   #34
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Any special strategy to polishing in comparison to waxing?
They're two different things. What's the question?
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Old 10-20-2013, 02:47 PM   #35
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I have just never polished before and was curious if it was a similar process to waxing. Sorry for the ambiguity.
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Old 10-20-2013, 04:39 PM   #36
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I have just never polished before and was curious if it was a similar process to waxing. Sorry for the ambiguity.
Google is your friend. So are the autopia, autogeek, and meguiars forums.
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Old 10-20-2013, 05:30 PM   #37
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This is my process...
Starters:
13 sti SWP
garaged at home
garaged at work.
100+ degrees in AZ

I have a water softening system. Washed every weekend at 6am morning, 2 hour process.
-One bucket
-i use a sponge, and always have on my cars.
-SWP you see much more brake dust than other colors. Everytime i wash the front rear fenders brake dust builds up on the sponge; i rinse it off and it comes right off.
-I have no swirls or imperfections on my paint.
-Pretty easy to tell when its 98% sunny and u see how perfect the paint is.
-I would have to give credit to my water.
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Old 10-21-2013, 01:36 PM   #38
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Can we get a recommendation on a orbital? Is the 25 dollar one at harbor freight good or should there be some sort of setting/feature/function to look for? black paint and swirls are driving me mad.
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Old 10-21-2013, 02:56 PM   #39
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Can we get a recommendation on a orbital? Is the 25 dollar one at harbor freight good or should there be some sort of setting/feature/function to look for? black paint and swirls are driving me mad.
Griots if you're on a budget. Rupes or flex 3401 if you can spend a bit more.

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Old 10-21-2013, 03:06 PM   #40
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Griots if you're on a budget. Rupes or flex 3104 if you can spend a bit more.
....probably just a typo but I think you meant 3401? I love mine BTW.
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Old 10-21-2013, 05:05 PM   #41
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Can we get a recommendation on a orbital? Is the 25 dollar one at harbor freight good or should there be some sort of setting/feature/function to look for? black paint and swirls are driving me mad.
The $59 one at Harbor Freight will be fine for you. (20% coupon as well)

I bought it to try it and it works fantastic. I couple it with my Flex like I did my porter cable at one point.

It comes with a poorly constructed backing plate, but if you change it to a different one then it seems to work perfect. I use mine with smaller pads (3-4in) for small areas, but have seen people get great results with a 5in backing plate and5-5.5 in pads.
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Old 10-21-2013, 07:29 PM   #42
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....probably just a typo but I think you meant 3401? I love mine BTW.
Yes, my bad. I would love to get one.
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Old 10-21-2013, 09:05 PM   #43
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Old 10-30-2013, 06:31 PM   #44
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i doubt wax would last 3 months on a car. i used to wax the car up and after i wash it, it loses its smooth finish. maybe its because i use the cheap stuff(turtle wax) lol.

but if i wax the car up and it doesnt get washed or rain outside, the shine lasts about 2 weeks max until the paint looks dull again. thats when i take the car out and park in moderate sun. if its garaged maybe a month.

btw, speaking of waxes, any of you guys recommend specific brands of wax? i have always used Turtle Wax and recently i picked up Armor All Butter Smooth Wax(just apply and wipe off, no wait needed). i find that very useful for a quick shine but it doesnt last very long.
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Old 10-30-2013, 08:25 PM   #45
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Some waxes last a month, some last three and some sealants will last half a year. A lot of factors go into it, there are some great threads out there with wax comparisons. My routine, when I own a car I want to clean, is clay once in the spring and once before winter. Generally try to wash once a month, you can reapply wax if you wish provided the surface isn't bad. Obviously you can polish and if you want to take it a step further you can clear bra or use some sort of top coat.
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Old 10-30-2013, 08:55 PM   #46
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i doubt wax would last 3 months on a car. i used to wax the car up and after i wash it, it loses its smooth finish. maybe its because i use the cheap stuff(turtle wax) lol.

but if i wax the car up and it doesnt get washed or rain outside, the shine lasts about 2 weeks max until the paint looks dull again. thats when i take the car out and park in moderate sun. if its garaged maybe a month.

btw, speaking of waxes, any of you guys recommend specific brands of wax? i have always used Turtle Wax and recently i picked up Armor All Butter Smooth Wax(just apply and wipe off, no wait needed). i find that very useful for a quick shine but it doesnt last very long.
Lol @ using sub-par products and wondering why they don't work well.

Have you tried using Google? Not trying to be a dick but there is a TON of information out there about good waxes and sealants. My wax of choice is Collinite 845.

Turtle Wax and Armor All are both regarded as the worst products in car care.
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Old 10-30-2013, 09:33 PM   #47
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Lol @ using sub-par products and wondering why they don't work well.

Have you tried using Google? Not trying to be a dick but there is a TON of information out there about good waxes and sealants. My wax of choice is Collinite 845.

Turtle Wax and Armor All are both regarded as the worst products in car care.
I will agree with you there, your best bet for of the shelf type of stuff is Meguiar's. I have not tried Collinite personally, I have been using Optimum lately and have gotten good results with it.
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Old 10-31-2013, 10:25 AM   #48
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I Turtle waxed my wife's car and Mothered mine the same day to compare. The Mothers wax is much, much easier to polish off. It also hides scratches a little better and the shine is superior. To my surprise the Turtlewax wasn't a more durable shine despite the elbow grease involved polishing it.
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Old 11-01-2013, 10:08 AM   #49
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