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Old 12-03-2013, 10:08 AM   #1
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Talking Need all-weather tire recommendation, 2003 Legacy

Hi, I am looking for recommendations for an all-weather basic tire for my 2003 Subaru Legacy. Currently have Yokohama Avid TRZ, which I like, but open to other suggestions as well. I don't mind spending an extra few bucks for good tires. Thanks!!
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Old 12-03-2013, 07:40 PM   #2
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The one "all-weather" tire I see a lot of talk about is the Nokian WRG2. I'm actually considering them for my Impreza.
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Old 12-04-2013, 08:54 AM   #3
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Well, Jean, most people refer to them as all season tires, rather than all-weather. If you search for "season" you will find plenty of threads discussing recommended tires.

And people would be better able to provide suggestions if you gave us a tire size (not all 2003 Legacys have the same tire size), a budget, and perhaps a location.
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Old 12-04-2013, 09:04 PM   #4
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I have the Nokian WR G3 on my '13 Impreza 2.0i, and Nokian definitely markets them as "All Weather" ("All Weather Plus", actually). For the sake of argument, let's define "All Weather" as an all-season tire carrying the severe service symbol on the sidewall. I guess you could quibble and call them performance winters (as Consumer Reports did), but the company that produces them calls them all-weathers.

Anyway, I've been really happy with the WR G3 so far. Much, much quieter than the stock Yokohamas, and although I haven't been able to test snow traction yet, I did panic stop in a heavy downpour a few weeks ago, and the car didn't trigger the ABS- just came to a composed stop. The only real downside I've seen so far is that they follow the crown of the road a little more aggressively than I'd like, but other than that, I have no real complaints. All in all, though, I've been very happy with this purchase.
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Old 12-06-2013, 03:04 PM   #5
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I have the Nokian WR G3 on my '13 Impreza 2.0i, and Nokian definitely markets them as "All Weather" ("All Weather Plus", actually). For the sake of argument, let's define "All Weather" as an all-season tire carrying the severe service symbol on the sidewall. I guess you could quibble and call them performance winters (as Consumer Reports did), but the company that produces them calls them all-weathers.

Anyway, I've been really happy with the WR G3 so far. Much, much quieter than the stock Yokohamas, and although I haven't been able to test snow traction yet, I did panic stop in a heavy downpour a few weeks ago, and the car didn't trigger the ABS- just came to a composed stop. The only real downside I've seen so far is that they follow the crown of the road a little more aggressively than I'd like, but other than that, I have no real complaints. All in all, though, I've been very happy with this purchase.
Do performance winters and all weather tires use the same rubber compound? They look very similar in terms of sidewall and sipes, so could a performance winter tire perform like a all-weather tire and be used year round?
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Old 12-06-2013, 03:27 PM   #6
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They are def very different compounds. Snow tires are made out a very soft compound and they agree made to perform well in 40f and lower. You will burn through tread in the warmer months.

Most testing vs all seasons will show that in the colder weather they will perform well but will never meet/exceed a snow tire. All seasons: Jack of all trades.. Master of none. As many people say.
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Old 12-06-2013, 03:44 PM   #7
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How do you know how different compounds are in tires like Dunlop 4D and Nokian WR G3?

I know that they are similar but I cannot say how much.

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Old 12-06-2013, 05:41 PM   #8
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They are def very different compounds. Snow tires are made out a very soft compound and they agree made to perform well in 40f and lower. You will burn through tread in the warmer months.

Most testing vs all seasons will show that in the colder weather they will perform well but will never meet/exceed a snow tire. All seasons: Jack of all trades.. Master of none. As many people say.
As I understand it, the WR G3 is based off the European WR A3/D3 (which won awards for best Central European winter tire in 2012 in Germany), but has been optimized for year-round use in North America. It is supposed to remain soft even in below-freezing temperatures. I haven't had an opportunity to drive them in the snow yet, but that might change this weekend.

As for summer temps, yeah, time will tell. Nokian claims the "Silent Groove Design" keeps them cool in summer, and with a 50,000 mile tread life warranty, I figured they would be a better tire than the Yokohama Avid S30 that came on my car from the dealer.
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Old 12-06-2013, 07:46 PM   #9
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When I bought my '05 CTS-V in August (read: summer time) of 2007, it had performance winters on it. I drove on those tires for over a month before I finally picked up another set of wheels with summer tires on 'em. The winter tires were perfectly fine, and I put them back on the car when winter rolled around.

Would that have worked if I was living in 110F Texas? I dunno. But in 80s and 90s type weather they didn't fall apart. I wouldn't rush out and buy a set of performance winters to run year 'round, but I think it could be done and they wouldn't self-destruct.
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Old 12-06-2013, 11:00 PM   #10
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Dws. My gf has them on her car. They're great all seasons
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Old 12-07-2013, 12:21 AM   #11
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Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 3
Excellent all season traction, nice biting edges and 3d sipes, and still super comfortable quiet and some sporty traction.
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Old 12-10-2013, 05:06 PM   #12
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I just replaced the god awful Bridgestone Potenzas that came with my Impreza (Subaru should be embarrassed to have ever used this tire) with Continental PureContact Eco Sports. They are all season and have a more aggressive tread than most all seasons. I only just installed them today, but so far I've had good traction in the snow and slush.
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Old 12-10-2013, 05:53 PM   #13
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Just put on Cooper Zeon's on 2005 LGT. Pushing snow with front bumper and great at high speed highway and ice and slush. Took off Firestone Firehawk's really bad tire.
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