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Old 11-03-2012, 08:09 AM   #76
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What's funny is this guy is modding a hybrid.

My GF had an Integra. I did actually enjoy the car. But like all Honda cars, the engine sucked balls. Sucked balls so hard. No torque at all.
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Old 11-03-2012, 09:10 AM   #77
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That's right bitch.... I pwned your ass. Stop saying I'm naive and stupid. Look at the videos. The burden of proof is there and it's on you to explain why these motors have such nasty problems. I can understand minor recalls like maybe the AC unit or navigation, but all of these problems in the videos are very very serious. Serious meaning they could leave you stranded. I've lost all trust in Subaru.
Look, you hate Subaru, we get it..

Showing off a Subaru engine making noises will do what exactly?? convince people that they got bad cars ??

I can browse on youtube and find you a Ecoboost F150 with a blown motor spewing out white smoke and say they are all bull****.

Every compagny have bad apples or bad batches..

A 30 year Toyota mecanic i know told me the other day that he sees more Camrys/Corollas having engine problems than he did back in the earyl 90s. Does this make toyota a bad compagny? No. It does show that quality has gone down a bit though. Look a Subaru paint.. It was thicker/better before 2000 or so. Now you put 3M paint shield on and still get rock ships that go through it and damage the paint..

I got Friend whos a Class A mecanic for a Dodge dealer? ya think it's better there??

My GF has a Honda Element and i had an K24 Accord. you think they are good cars ? Not too bad but we BOTH had a leaking rack and pinion and both wwere replaced under wrranty.. all that under 50 000 miles.. don't saying that we abused it and once the wheels were turned all the way to one side we would hold it there... we know how to drive.


All compagnies have had there bad sides and good sides.. you're saying things you don't even fully understand.

timming chains outdated ?? K20, K24, L15, R18 from the civic, ZZ engine for toyota, they're all on chains now..If you want a honda with belt driven cam shaft,stick with a the B series.


Bottom line,


You're on a Subaru forum, talking **** about Subarus and trying to convince them to switch to Honda and Nissan ?

Take a step back and look at this for a minute.

How would i be greated if i was to go on your CR-Z forum and talk **** about honda and say Subarus are better in everyway?

I would get flamed and would be shown the door.


Get it ??
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Old 11-03-2012, 09:13 AM   #78
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What's funny is this guy is modding a hybrid.

My GF had an Integra. I did actually enjoy the car. But like all Honda cars, the engine sucked balls. Sucked balls so hard. No torque at all.
i've been surprised by a few "no balls" B18 with and exhaust/header/ CAI.

the approach in not the same. Honda is not making turbos(execpt for the Acura RDX whci they stop making last year)

Take any stock EJ and put it against a stock B16 civic..the outcom will be diffrent.

Turbocharging changes alot of things..
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Old 11-03-2012, 04:24 PM   #79
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i've been surprised by a few "no balls" B18 with and exhaust/header/ CAI.

the approach in not the same. Honda is not making turbos(execpt for the Acura RDX whci they stop making last year)

Take any stock EJ and put it against a stock B16 civic..the outcom will be diffrent.

Turbocharging changes alot of things..
What I mean by no balls is I wouldn't use one to tow a trailer to move a bed.
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Old 11-04-2012, 09:44 PM   #80
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Let's see why I'm still here refer to thread

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=2419347

I once had a 2009 Impreza It was an absolute POS. I come here to gain knowledge of the all new FB and FA engines. The and to the looks of thoes new engines Subaru still is not on par with Honda or Toyota or even Nissan. The FB in the Forrester had all kinds of problems when it initially came out. Do you see nasty problems when an all new Honda or Toyota motor is released? The answer is rarely yes but mostly no. The same goes for Nissan. Subaru really needs to spend more $$ on RD
it's hard for me to forget the s2000 but you certainly have. the F20 s2000 motor was a great motor besides the fact that it was built not to ever do endurance races. and when i say endurance races i mean going to a track every weekend and doing a few sessions. the banjo bolts would stick and not pick up oil to recirculate causing oil starvation, which obviously led to boom engines. oh and then the ****ty engineered timing chain tensioner that could go bad in less than 10K miles. i had two new ones in a span of 1 month. I say this not to crap on my beloved S2000 but honda isn't this wonderful perfect car company. there are tons of things i could say that went wrong with the S2000. but i love it. and subaru might have its flaws but what company doesn't. certainly not honda, from my experience. but oh well.
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Old 11-10-2012, 01:35 PM   #81
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I love my 2012 FB20 Impreza with CVT. Oil filter location is awesome. I get 43mpg highway on long trips, 38-40 on shorter highway trips. 30mpg driving around town. And I drive it like I stole it. Plus having the CVT is like having instant power at any time. It's a fun 40-90mph. I took it on a nice mountain run this morning and had a blast.
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Old 11-10-2012, 08:26 PM   #82
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I love my 2012 FB20 Impreza with CVT. Oil filter location is awesome. I get 43mpg highway on long trips, 38-40 on shorter highway trips. 30mpg driving around town. And I drive it like I stole it. Plus having the CVT is like having instant power at any time. It's a fun 40-90mph. I took it on a nice mountain run this morning and had a blast.
Reading your post makes me happy too.
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Old 03-29-2013, 03:47 AM   #83
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You guys have absolutely no idea how much enjoyment I just got out of reading this thread. So thank you. Thank you.
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Old 04-26-2013, 07:42 AM   #84
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I just literally read the whole damn thing. But...I never got the answer out of the OP. Did I miss it from all that BS Honda talk?

I would assume the differences between the FA20 and the FB20 is the heads and not the block. Therefore, parts would not be an exact fit let alone the parts being functional if they actually fit. Am I wrong?
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Old 06-30-2013, 10:25 PM   #85
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Seems like the Honda guy is just mad that he spends his all life( its not like he has one) on this SUBARU forum looking at SUBARU engines and telling us they suck. I'm sure there is no reason why subarus are the benchmark for affordable performance, while hondas are cheap grandma, and family cars. EJ was in production for 25 years and i'm sure is because people didn't like it-sarcasm. The only reason they made a new engine is beacuse the world got more efficient not because it was bad. Subaru will get it right soon they just have to fix few problems. The only reason im even on this thread is because in some distant feature i want to swap my eninge. my baby is reaching 200,000 miles on stage two without any problems. The only thing i can complain about is stupid subaru bolts which snap all the time when i upgrade stuff. so i thought how about instead of sti block which everyone uses put an fa20 from brz tuned by crowded performance
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Old 06-30-2013, 11:24 PM   #86
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So much fail all in one thread.

I own a 2012 Impreza Sport Limited, and I liked it so much I bought a BRZ. Completely different engines, though. I don't see how they will use even simple common parts.

Even the oil filters are different.

So, there may be some performance parts that both engines can use, but it won't be many.

The BRZ's engine has to be pulled up and out to even change the spark plugs. A lotta room everywhere else, but not much on the sides. So, I don't think they'll be sharing much in the performance header department, but that's just eyeballing it. From below, it just might work out, but I have my doubts.

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Old 07-01-2013, 12:44 AM   #87
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Headers exit the bottom of a boxer (at least the way Subaru makes them), so space on the sides is only for spark plugs, valve covers, and heads.
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Old 11-12-2013, 07:43 AM   #88
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Well isn't the new wrx going to use the same engine as the brz except turbo? I've heard that the brz engine is better than the EJ..
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Old 12-17-2013, 02:35 AM   #89
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woot woot, this thread sure beat going to a 15 dollar movie. can we do this again, next Monday. If Subaru's are so bad tell that to my sister who put 320,000+ with doing normal maintenance before she traded it in for a 2014 forester.

damn I sure do hate people that get a car, that turns out to be a lemon then they go and bad mouth the company will out trying a different year, or model.

speaking of Toyota. I did have to replace my transmission cable 5 times, all with in 1,000 miles, and then replace the whole transmission 2 times.

super honda power so much work for a 30 min car.
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This dude needs to seriously suck some lithium batteries . Kudos to those who took the time to enjoy an intellectual KO, obliterating each of his "arguments".

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