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Old 01-05-2014, 01:51 AM   #1
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Default 20g + e85 what clutch? go away unibomber and let me ask questions!

This is my 4th time to try and get some advice and Unibomber keeps shutting me down.
What is the point on NASIOC if not to help each other and enjoy our cars?
Unibomber you need to chill out!
If I can't ask questions and seek advice then why does this site even exist?
Now for those who aren't complete jerks....

09 wrx Clutch can't hold the power any longer. Vf52 E85 tuned now.
I haven't been on a dyno but can assume in somewhere between 335-355 whp and 380-400+ wtq, based on others results.
Planning on a 20g and a few more goodies in the not too distant future.
Hoping to be around 430/430 or more on e85?
What would be a good choice for clutch flywheel combo to hold the power and be easily streetable.
I don't do much racing and I have a baby on the way so I would prefer a clutch that is not on/off. FYI.. I don't need the usual pompous jerk face reply to read the stickies etc.
Generic information has no relevance to real world experience with specific products. Recommendations please!
Your help is appreciated.
Thanks!
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Old 01-05-2014, 02:06 AM   #2
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lolwut?
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Old 01-05-2014, 02:08 AM   #3
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dude seriously if you have a baby on the way you should consider selling your car, and don't drive around in a 500whp car with a baby...mmmkay
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Old 01-05-2014, 02:14 AM   #4
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dude seriously if you have a baby on the way you should consider selling your car, and don't drive around in a 500whp car with a baby...mmmkay
Hmmm...
Seemingly good advice!...
Lol
The baby won't be in the wrx often.
It's not my only car.
But I imagine she will be riding every once I'm a while.
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Old 01-05-2014, 02:20 AM   #5
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Ibsomeonegetsputintimeout...
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Old 01-05-2014, 04:11 AM   #6
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Call a vendor on here and ask. They will know the products they sell better. For example importimage.

Better yet ask your tuner amd see what he recommends or what others with similar mods to yours run.

Im running a act heavy duty plate, With a street disc, 12lb flywheel.

Feels great to me. Then again i never drove my car with stock clutch but have tried other wrx and didnt like it.. the kit came with the car so why not. Not launching it every corner and even so i slip the clutch like crazy to save my transmisson

I have to admit thou.. someone did go abit overboard on other threads but somewhat understandable since its asked quite abit here.. i have to agree you do purchase on torq rating but some brands have plus and negatives like noise.
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Old 01-05-2014, 04:59 AM   #7
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I have an 06 sti with about the same HP/torque. I have been happy with the act xtss clutch with the streetlite flywheel. Daily driver with occasional track time. ACT has a good website. You can call them as well to get advice directly from them.
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Old 01-05-2014, 09:07 AM   #8
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Thanks for the input gentlemen!
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Old 01-05-2014, 09:17 AM   #9
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Unabomber is the guy w the dope manifesto?
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Old 01-05-2014, 09:24 AM   #10
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Unabomber is the guy w the dope manifesto?
Nope, that's Ted Kaczynski.
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Old 01-05-2014, 09:31 AM   #11
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Nope, that's Ted Kaczynski.
Hahahaha

OP look up southbend and give them a call.
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Old 01-05-2014, 09:45 AM   #12
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You should read the FAQs...it's not generic information. It's actually very detailed information regarding the technology behind clutches and material characteristics. There is information about the relationship between clutch material and engagement "harshness". What you are asking for is someone to tell you what the best clutch is without you having to do any research.

After about 12 seconds of looking through the FAQs, I found this link. There, you will find the torque ratings for common clutch kits:

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WRX 2006-2009

Exedy 15804 287
South Bend Clutch STAGE 1 RALLY 316
Exedy 15952 326
South Bend Clutch STAGE 2 TZ 345
ACT SB5-HDMM 420
South Bend Clutch STAGE 3 OFE 450
ACT SB5-HDG6 537
ACT SB5-HDG4 537
ACT SB5-HDR6 537
ACT SB5-HDR4 537
South Bend Clutch STAGE 4 SS OFE 550
Exedy FM032XD 585
South Bend Clutch STAGE 4 SS FE 650
Here's another thing to consider, which is in the FAQs:

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Originally Posted by Clutch FAQs
As to the rating of clutches, most manufacturers rate their clutches to the point of slip, instead of being able to sustain long term use at specified ratings. Torque ratings are based off of the average torque per crank rotation, if you buy a clutch which is border line with the amount of torque you put out, chances are its going to start slipping sooner than later.
There's plenty of information out there for you to make a decision. Once you find a clutch that should fit your requirements, search for reviews on that particular clutch and call up the manufacturer to make sure they don't have any other insight.

If you're going to choose a clutch for that kind of horsepower/torque, you should know WHY you're going to choose it; the reason should not be: "Because NASIOC told me it was good."
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Old 01-05-2014, 10:08 AM   #13
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You should read the FAQs...it's not generic information. It's actually very detailed information regarding the technology behind clutches and material characteristics. There is information about the relationship between clutch material and engagement "harshness". What you are asking for is someone to tell you what the best clutch is without you having to do any research. After about 12 seconds of looking through the FAQs, I found this link. There, you will find the torque ratings for common clutch kits: Here's another thing to consider, which is in the FAQs: There's plenty of information out there for you to make a decision. Once you find a clutch that should fit your requirements, search for reviews on that particular clutch and call up the manufacturer to make sure they don't have any other insight. If you're going to choose a clutch for that kind of horsepower/torque, you should know WHY you're going to choose it; the reason should not be: "Because NASIOC told me it was good."
Really?!
I HAVE read the FAQ!

I appreciate the work that has gone into the FAQs
But I'm not going to just pick a clutch from a list.
It is NOT specific as to how the clutches actually perform and feel.
The same rated clutch from 2 manufactures may have completely different real life characteristics on the road, or worse one may have a much higher failure rate. Etc etc.

I'm not picking a clutch from that outdated list any more than I would pick a new car from a list of specs.

For the life of me I don't see how so many people here just want to bash others and offer no meaningful help.

Like I said before... What is the point of NASIOC if not to help one another and enjoy our cars?
Your just basically telling me I need to do all the research my self, and ignore the wealth of experience and knowledge here in NASIOC.
That is not good advice.

Now, if you don't mind, get out of the way and let someone with actual helpful insite reply.
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Old 01-05-2014, 10:13 AM   #14
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Hahahaha OP look up southbend and give them a call.
Thanks
I'll check them out.
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Old 01-05-2014, 10:25 AM   #15
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Me and a hand full of buddies are rocking south bend clutches. Mine is not installed yet but the others have plenty of good miles on them and still strong.
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Old 01-05-2014, 10:28 AM   #16
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Me and a hand full of buddies are rocking south bend clutches. Mine is not installed yet but the others have plenty of good miles on them and still strong.
I haven't researched the South bend much yet, I'm going to check them out today.

Thank you sir!
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