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Old 12-29-2013, 07:48 AM   #1
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http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-576...o-court-again/



I thought Google used Prii for the street view recordings. I'm kind of surprised to see a Subaru Impreza with that equipment. Especially with the gas mileage the Impreza got in that generation lol. Maybe that's just one of the angry fans' cars they're using as a prop.
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Old 12-29-2013, 07:51 AM   #2
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There are pics of a lot filled with Impreza Google cars.
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Old 12-30-2013, 12:33 PM   #3
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I've only seen two Google cars 'out in the wild'. Both were Imprezas.
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Old 12-30-2013, 01:37 PM   #4
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Nothing new, Google has been using Imprezas as street view cars for quite some time
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Old 12-30-2013, 02:24 PM   #5
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We've seen the Googpreza rolling around Alaska a few years back. They'd do good to have the 2012 Impreza as replacements with all the driving they do.
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Old 12-31-2013, 07:41 AM   #6
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Google argues that its actions were not illegal because data transmitted over a Wi-Fi network is an electronic radio communication that is "readily accessible to the general public" and therefore exempt under the Wiretap Act.
I keep going back to the case where the police have used unsecured wifi (Whiffy) in someones home to go snooping around their iTunes library (in which they found Child Pron) and arrested the guy citing that open and unsecured wifi is not wiretapping because it was publically available.

Google did nothing to circumvent any encryption or passwords when they did this.

I just find it odd that the FCC is saying that an unencrypted radio frequency (think walkie talkie) is protected and illegal to listen to.

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Old 12-31-2013, 05:54 PM   #7
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Ive always wondered how they did this. Honestly, not what I expected. I thought it was more technological.
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Old 01-03-2014, 04:15 PM   #8
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I keep going back to the case where the police have used unsecured wifi (Whiffy) in someones home to go snooping around their iTunes library (in which they found Child Pron) and arrested the guy citing that open and unsecured wifi is not wiretapping because it was publically available.

Google did nothing to circumvent any encryption or passwords when they did this.

I just find it odd that the FCC is saying that an unencrypted radio frequency (think walkie talkie) is protected and illegal to listen to.

--kC
There's gray areas in the law over the distinction between "radio communication" and "electronic communication" as well as what of those qualify as "readily accessible to the general public". A packet sniffer is not something the general public knows about, let alone knows how to use.

Better article from the EFF:
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2013/0...chers-and-cops

Whether or not it's illegal, gathering that data is clearly unethical for a company like Google.

There should also be some consequences for re-purposing of wifi signals without the owner's consent. When I set up a discoverable wifi network, I expect that people within 50 yards of my house will know the name of my network. When Google publishes that name along with its location for anyone on the internet to see, I get a bit annoyed. My understanding is they do this even if you make your network "undiscoverable". The only way to avoid it is to rename your network with "_nomap" at the end of the name.
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Old 01-03-2014, 04:27 PM   #9
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A packet sniffer is not something the general public knows about, let alone knows how to use.
That's their own fault for being care-free and ignorant, which the law never seems to afford anything over, as well it shouldn't. "Oh I didn't know murder was illegal!"

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Whether or not it's illegal, gathering that data is clearly unethical for a company like Google.
That may be, but let google suffer the image defamation for their acts instead of slap a heinous lawsuit on them.

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There should also be some consequences for re-purposing of wifi signals without the owner's consent. When I set up a discoverable wifi network, I expect that people within 50 yards of my house will know the name of my network. When Google publishes that name along with its location for anyone on the internet to see, I get a bit annoyed. My understanding is they do this even if you make your network "undiscoverable". The only way to avoid it is to rename your network with "_nomap" at the end of the name.
That's your opinion. I can't tell you how much I have to tell my mom "It's pointless. If someone want's your cyberz info, they'll get it and nothing can stop them, BUT the likelihood of someone wanting it is low, so don't worry." And then she demands I do everything possible to protect it anyways, to which I refuse her paranoia agent and force her to live with the uncertainty (while laughing at her own self-induced anxiety).
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Old 01-05-2014, 09:58 AM   #10
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That's your opinion. I can't tell you how much I have to tell my mom "It's pointless. If someone want's your cyberz info, they'll get it and nothing can stop them, BUT the likelihood of someone wanting it is low, so don't worry." And then she demands I do everything possible to protect it anyways, to which I refuse her paranoia agent and force her to live with the uncertainty (while laughing at her own self-induced anxiety).
That explains a lot; you're a horrible person. I had to stop myself from smiling too much since I'm at work, LOL. Either way, your mom is just from that generation and I can understand her concern but I do agree that if someone really wants it that badly, they're going to get it (of someone really wants to break into my house, they'll get in eventually). My grandparents are like that but my biological parents don't really give Internet security a second thought.

"When they're out to get you paranoia is only good thinking." Your mom's credit card information is something thieves will always want. And thieves, like any other dumbass, want it just because it was there for the taking.
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Old 01-06-2014, 09:27 AM   #11
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Google has been using the impreza for quite some time now, mostly to rural areas where you have lots of gravel and rutted state roads. I was actually suprised to see many of those roads on google maps, especially in montana in which i had to travel roughly 30 miles on all dirt roads. No way a prius would make it, but subie handled it just fine.
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