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Old 12-13-2010, 01:20 AM   #1
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Default Anybody installed an MSD 8239 Ignition coil on their Subie?

96 Legacy with a 2.2. I'd like to know which wires go where. Its a 3 wire input plug. Msd says the center is +12 and the outer are -12 triggers. Other than that I would just be guessing. Thanks for any input.
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Old 12-16-2010, 05:21 PM   #2
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Yeah you're right.

subie connector, read right to left 1, 2, 3.
pin 1 is for cyl numbers 1 and 2

pin 2 is "12v signal in"

pin 3 is for cyl numbers 3 and 4

The MSD connector reads left to right tho, opposite to the subie one.
I think the wires colors are the same as mine. Here's a pic over on sl-i.net



I thought I got it right the first time, but first start up on my car it backfired! So try the wiring thats in the pic. If it's not right switch around the 2 outer wires, then it should work. The center wire on the subie connector always goes the center wire on the msd connector.
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Old 12-16-2010, 05:30 PM   #3
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Thanks! How did you mount yours, did you just use 2 of the mounting holes? Did you need to use different coil boots or did the factory ones work. Last question, how was the pizza?
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Old 03-03-2011, 09:46 PM   #4
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Where did you get that black plug that goes to the msd box
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Old 03-04-2011, 10:06 PM   #5
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Thanks! How did you mount yours, did you just use 2 of the mounting holes? Did you need to use different coil boots or did the factory ones work. Last question, how was the pizza?
HAha! sadly that was someone else's picture, I think I'm going to make some pizza now tho...

Anyways, you need some extended bolts, they are M6 x 2" bolts. You'll only need 2, because the msd coil is taller and a little longer than the subaru coil so only 2 bolts line up.

Here's the thread from sl-i.net I used to make sure I had everything I needed:
http://sl-i.net/FORUM/viewtopic.php?f=39&t=11704
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Old 03-26-2011, 04:59 PM   #6
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I just did the conversion and clipped off my old harness and tied directly into the stock harness wires. When doing it with the 8239 the wires are as follows:

Subaru > MSD Harness

Yellow - Green
Black - Black
Red - Blue

And that keeps the plug on the same side but the MSD logo will be on the back side. The bolt size you need is M6 x 45mm or 50mm and you only need 2. Since mine is a DOHC I went with the wires for a 98 Legacy and you don't need to mod them.

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Old 01-24-2014, 11:36 PM   #7
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Where do you get that black plug for the MSD?
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Old 01-25-2014, 12:24 AM   #8
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Its the flat pin connector from a 96-00 Dodge Neon. You can find one at a junk yard or from Napa.
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Old 02-13-2014, 10:13 PM   #9
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Any performance/results/power input?
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Any performance/results/power input?
Yes there was a noticeable smoothness in the idle and I got a little better gas mileage. I'm sure on a dyno it would show the gain and probably show a smoother graph. Its a higher voltage which means stronger spark which equates to better fuel burn. Its like going from a regular distributor with separate coil to HEI ignition.
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Old 02-24-2014, 02:19 PM   #11
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yeah this doesn't seem to work on an ej20k
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Old 02-25-2014, 12:18 AM   #12
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I have a voltage regulator/grounding kit on my car already. I think I felt that type of gain after installing the grounding kit. Felt like there was a "wall" from 4500-redline before the install. Then it felt like there wasn't I e after the install. I also saw a small mpg increase.

Would the MSD add to what I've already felt?
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Old 02-25-2014, 07:34 AM   #13
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I have a voltage regulator/grounding kit on my car already. I think I felt that type of gain after installing the grounding kit. Felt like there was a "wall" from 4500-redline before the install. Then it felt like there wasn't I e after the install. I also saw a small mpg increase.

Would the MSD add to what I've already felt?
Yes it will because its 8k more volts to the plugs which means better fuel burn.
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Old 03-17-2014, 08:42 PM   #14
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So I have a ej22e single port with 8239 msd. i've tried swapping the outer wires for the splice, i've used phase II plug wires with stock ngks plugs (bk9re or w/e). It misfires either way. Did you regap or replace your plugs?
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Old 03-22-2014, 01:48 PM   #15
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Will this be ok for plat plugs?
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Old 04-03-2014, 08:01 PM   #16
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I tried retrofitting the Accel Neon coil to my Phase II EJ22. It burned my ignition coil fuse under the dash so I ended up keeping the stock coil. I ordered plugs and wires from hhttp://www.weaponxperformance.com/

The car is louder and smoother as confirmed by my peers. Here's a pic of the wires.

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