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Old 02-18-2014, 05:00 PM   #4976
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should add some condensation is normal
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Old 02-18-2014, 05:07 PM   #4977
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should add some condensation is normal
But isn't it typically around the oil cap and not on the dipstick? I've had a couple cars I've seen condensation with but only around cap. It's never on dipstick. If anyone told me the condensation caused the oil on stick to be whitish and milky, then I'd tell them they r full of s*** and demand a replaced engine. That much "condensation" Would be enough to damage bearings anyway. I can't imagine in 5 + qts that condensation would show up on dipstick with anything more than maybe a bubble or two. But enough to change color/ consistency of oil-no way.
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Old 02-18-2014, 05:16 PM   #4978
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Old 02-18-2014, 10:45 PM   #4979
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That light comes on way before you are out of oil. Were you negligent?
Nope, I was on my way home and was about 7 miles away when it lit. I drove it the rest of the way home and checked it there. I didn't add the oil until the next day before I took it back. Remember it was just rebuilt the day before and I wouldn't have thought it would have went through that much in that little distance. I figured 3/4 or 1 quart at most.
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Old 02-18-2014, 10:57 PM   #4980
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But isn't it typically around the oil cap and not on the dipstick? I've had a couple cars I've seen condensation with but only around cap. It's never on dipstick. If anyone told me the condensation caused the oil on stick to be whitish and milky, then I'd tell them they r full of s*** and demand a replaced engine. That much "condensation" Would be enough to damage bearings anyway. I can't imagine in 5 + qts that condensation would show up on dipstick with anything more than maybe a bubble or two. But enough to change color/ consistency of oil-no way.
I am familiar with typical V8 motors and have seen condensation on the oil caps in the cold when running very short trips. With the oil fill location of these engines I guess there would be condensation on the cap but the filter is right there. That and after running the car the area over the oil filter is the last thing to cool off, snow not sticking there till the rest of the hood is covered tells me that it is staying pretty warm. I'll try and get some photos tomorrow.
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Old 02-21-2014, 01:09 PM   #4981
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Well in 1900 miles my level on the dipstick has only dropped a quarter inch mybe even less. Definitely not guzzling the oil like my Imlreza did.
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Old 02-21-2014, 05:13 PM   #4982
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I would be more than happy with those numbers.
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Old 02-21-2014, 06:06 PM   #4983
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I wouldn't. Brand new cars shouldn't burn oil! Even the second time around
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Old 02-21-2014, 06:55 PM   #4984
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I wouldn't. Brand new cars shouldn't burn oil! Even the second time around
They should never break down either, but every brand does warranty work on new cars. Apparently there are many new car models and brands that use oil more than before. In all price categories, and even more so as you go up in price. I've actually talked to several clients lately with oil consumption concerns with their new cars. Brands like Audi, BMW, Mercedes. I'm fortunate my Subaru doesn't, but if I paid 3-4X the price of my subie and had issues I'd be pretty concerned. It makes you wonder what they all have in common. I can speculate but this isn't the right forum for that. Lol
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Old 02-21-2014, 07:49 PM   #4985
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Agreed that some of these issues are not unique to Subaru and other manufacturers have worse issues. I am happy with my Impreza.
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Old 02-21-2014, 08:17 PM   #4986
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They should never break down either, but every brand does warranty work on new cars. Apparently there are many new car models and brands that use oil more than before. In all price categories, and even more so as you go up in price. I've actually talked to several clients lately with oil consumption concerns with their new cars. Brands like Audi, BMW, Mercedes. I'm fortunate my Subaru doesn't, but if I paid 3-4X the price of my subie and had issues I'd be pretty concerned. It makes you wonder what they all have in common. I can speculate but this isn't the right forum for that. Lol
I guess we should now get used to new cars that burn oil from the sounds of it.
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Old 02-21-2014, 08:26 PM   #4987
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Just adding a datapoint. In some cold NE winter weather my '12 Impreza burned 2 qts of oil in about 5k miles. It's now sold anyway.
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Old 02-21-2014, 09:47 PM   #4988
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I guess we should now get used to new cars that burn oil from the sounds of it.
Idk- just seems weird to me. Every manuf I listed including Subaru are very very good at what they do, meaning their " cup of tea" if you will. You can add in Volkswagen into the mix if you want. But it seems like each, at least from owners I've talked to, are having oil troubles. On here we hold Subaru accountable, as this is a brand forum. So its easy to feel its mainly a Subaru issue. But other brand forums are in same boat. I'm not the smartest guy typing this post ;-), but I usually tend to look at commonalities when I see issues among several different things. I'm not sure if its everyone scrambling to meet certain standards, if its materials, oils, lack of QC due to a rush to compete with other brands, or a combo of these in today's world. But I think a coincidence that many brands have the same general issue seems far fetched. Just an opinion
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Old 02-21-2014, 10:37 PM   #4989
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I see more and more engines being designed to use thinner oil in order to get more efficiency. I think this contributes to the oil consumption issue in a lot of cars. We can all buy electric cars!
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Old 02-22-2014, 07:40 AM   #4990
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Just adding a datapoint. In some cold NE winter weather my '12 Impreza burned 2 qts of oil in about 5k miles. It's now sold anyway.
Good riddance? How many miles total?
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Old 02-22-2014, 08:03 AM   #4991
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Based on the cost of new cars and some of the issues they have, I think my next "new" car would be a 1984 CJ7.
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Maybe this will happen for the many owners of oil burning subarus.
http://www.autonews.com/article/2013...emplate=mobile
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Old 02-22-2014, 08:06 AM   #4993
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Based on the cost of new cars and some of the issues they have, I think my next "new" car would be a 1984 CJ7.
Classic! My 89 xj has over 300k miles! I also had a 76 j20 that was a real beast!
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Interesting about Honda. An 8 year warranty extension would give us 13 years. I'd take that!
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Old 02-22-2014, 08:50 AM   #4995
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Interesting about Honda. An 8 year warranty extension would give us 13 years. I'd take that!
Not 8 year extension, 8 years worth of warranty (additional 3 years)
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Bummer! After 29 years, I am still struggling with this whole English language thing.
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Old 02-22-2014, 09:26 AM   #4997
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Maybe this will happen for the many owners of oil burning subarus. http://www.autonews.com/article/2013...emplate=mobile
So 79, what your saying Is everyone with an oil burner close to that consumption point should write a complaint to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration Web site and also on carcomplaints.com to hopefully make something happen?
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Based on the cost of new cars and some of the issues they have, I think my next "new" car would be a 1984 CJ7.
Loved the CJ's I've had. Money pits but at least you can fix issues and move to something else. It's the sheer simplicity of it that I love. That and the 402 I built for my last one. On 38's that damn thing outran a "stock" mustang GT. It took a couple lanes to slow it down tho. The full width Dana's helped
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Yes-There is a lot to be said for simplicity. Something that is lacking on any new car.
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So 79, what your saying Is everyone with an oil burner close to that consumption point should write a complaint to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration Web site and also on carcomplaints.com to hopefully make something happen?
It would be a good start... But I'm not saying anyone do anything. Just sharing info.
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