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Old 02-21-2014, 04:47 PM   #1
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Default EBAY VF48 knockoff turbo

I have noticed several $400~ VF48 knockoff turbo listings on eBay recently. Has anyone seen one of these? I wouldn't want to take the risk, but wondered if anyone has tried one for kicks. Here is a link as an example, I have no affiliation of course.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/OEM-Spec-VF4...9dea87&vxp=mtr
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Old 02-21-2014, 05:13 PM   #2
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I have noticed several $400~ VF48 knockoff turbo listings on eBay recently. Has anyone seen one of these? I wouldn't want to take the risk, but wondered if anyone has tried one for kicks. Here is a link as an example, I have no affiliation of course.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/OEM-Spec-VF4...9dea87&vxp=mtr
Ehhhhh, I wouldn't trust it. Maybe it will be ok, but who knows? Kinugawa is about the only brand that can be found on ebay that has been proven to be reliable.
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Old 02-21-2014, 05:18 PM   #3
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Yeah, I don't have the disposable income to buy one. If I did, I would do it just for kicks. It would be nice to have a low cost source for disposable quick spooling turbos ~25-30lbs boost E85 torque monsters. I know everyone says go 20G or up, but mine is a daily driver, and I care about quick spool and torque on demand more than I do laggy HP.
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Old 02-21-2014, 05:42 PM   #4
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I understand. I am not sure how some people find the money for their projects. I make my statement above however, irrespective of financial limits.

I have a Kamak TD05-18G and find it to be an awesome balance, but still kinda pricey when compared to a $400 turbo.
As a final statement I present the following rule for tuning:

- Cheap
- Fast
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You can only have two.
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Old 02-21-2014, 07:12 PM   #5
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People who buy turbos off of eBay:

16 year olds
People without the right amount of chromosomes

If you aren't either of the above, steer far clear of ANY turbo you find on eBay as you only buy turbos from eBay if you are an ADVANCED user (protip: ADVANCED eBay turbo users don't ask for advice on NASIOC)

This post is not funny or belittling and is 100% dead serious.
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Old 02-21-2014, 07:15 PM   #6
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I have chosen the last one so far. Did cosworth pistona in a pretty much stock otherwise build. Stock turbo, stock (badly in need up upgrade) injectors, Jdm tgv housings, 3 port pcs, equal leingth headers, stock cat back, walbro 255, stock air box, etc. My goal has always been 300 honest whp and 350 wtq. I am there, and just need injectors for safety. I would just like to have a crazy E85 tune for fun once I do the ID1000s. Still, the car is plenty fast already.
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Old 02-21-2014, 07:17 PM   #7
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Thanks Unabomber. Good thing a traded in the short bus for the STi after I got my learners permit

I hope my OP made is clear that I am not seriously considering said turbo. Nor am I recommending it. I just know there are, as you put it, advanced eBay turbo users, so I figured I would take a shot in the dark and ask about these. I am 100% sure they are a POS. If I ever made it look like I thought otherwise, I am sorry.
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Old 05-26-2014, 07:03 AM   #8
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So I figured id put my $.02 in and say that I became the guinea pig and tested one of these out. I got mine through Godspeed project and when I got it, it was a JM Turbo sold through Godspeed. The build quality was actually really good. You could see the balancing grinds on both the compressor and turbine wheels, the casting on the exhaust housing had the same casting marks as a real vf48, and comparing it side by side to my vf39, the wheels looked identical and the housings looked about the same, with the 48 being slightly larger. The install fitment was perfect. It fit right in with no fuss. Now here is where it gets good. I had it in my car for a few days and the car would smoke all the time. I primed the turbo like you're suppose to, but the car smoked all the time. I started to notice my exhaust tip was constantly wet. I thought there was other issues, but it never went away. I pulled the downpipe off 2 weeks later and the back of the turbine housing and the bell mouth of my downpipe were wet. I will say this, as I drove around the first evening I had it, I did get into it to get up to speed in traffic. Dont know if I should have given it a proper break in period before hitting high boost, but whatever. The seals still wore out. Contacted Godspeed and they exchanged my turbo, no problem. Because my old vf39 had no problems come to find out, I threw that back in and had them exchange the turbo for a front mount intercooler kit and a bov. I'd be willing to give it another shot. I dont think I gave it a proper break in period before ripping on it. The build quality was too good for me to believe that it was that bad of a turbo from the get go. I had an old 18g at one point that looked like ****, fit like ****, but lasted me two and a half years that I payed $550 for. But for now, im very happy with my vf39 fmic setup.
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Old 05-26-2014, 07:27 AM   #9
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So I figured id put my $.02 in and say that I became the guinea pig and tested one of these out. I got mine through Godspeed project and when I got it, it was a JM Turbo sold through Godspeed. The build quality was actually really good. You could see the balancing grinds on both the compressor and turbine wheels, the casting on the exhaust housing had the same casting marks as a real vf48, and comparing it side by side to my vf39, the wheels looked identical and the housings looked about the same, with the 48 being slightly larger. The install fitment was perfect. It fit right in with no fuss. Now here is where it gets good. I had it in my car for a few days and the car would smoke all the time. I primed the turbo like you're suppose to, but the car smoked all the time. I started to notice my exhaust tip was constantly wet. I thought there was other issues, but it never went away. I pulled the downpipe off 2 weeks later and the back of the turbine housing and the bell mouth of my downpipe were wet. I will say this, as I drove around the first evening I had it, I did get into it to get up to speed in traffic. Dont know if I should have given it a proper break in period before hitting high boost, but whatever. The seals still wore out. Contacted Godspeed and they exchanged my turbo, no problem. Because my old vf39 had no problems come to find out, I threw that back in and had them exchange the turbo for a front mount intercooler kit and a bov. I'd be willing to give it another shot. I dont think I gave it a proper break in period before ripping on it. The build quality was too good for me to believe that it was that bad of a turbo from the get go. I had an old 18g at one point that looked like ****, fit like ****, but lasted me two and a half years that I payed $550 for. But for now, im very happy with my vf39 fmic setup.
Theres no break in period for a turbo.... you just got what you paid for, thats all. A knock off leaky POS paper weight

Also you want to stay away from anything that has Godspeeds name on it, or came from them in the future... its likely junk and will give you more headaches than its worth

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Old 05-26-2014, 09:42 AM   #10
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So I figured id put my $.02 in and say that I became the guinea pig and tested one of these out. I got mine through Godspeed project and when I got it, it was a JM Turbo sold through Godspeed. The build quality was actually really good. You could see the balancing grinds on both the compressor and turbine wheels, the casting on the exhaust housing had the same casting marks as a real vf48, and comparing it side by side to my vf39, the wheels looked identical and the housings looked about the same, with the 48 being slightly larger. The install fitment was perfect. It fit right in with no fuss. Now here is where it gets good. I had it in my car for a few days and the car would smoke all the time. I primed the turbo like you're suppose to, but the car smoked all the time. I started to notice my exhaust tip was constantly wet. I thought there was other issues, but it never went away. I pulled the downpipe off 2 weeks later and the back of the turbine housing and the bell mouth of my downpipe were wet. I will say this, as I drove around the first evening I had it, I did get into it to get up to speed in traffic. Dont know if I should have given it a proper break in period before hitting high boost, but whatever. The seals still wore out. Contacted Godspeed and they exchanged my turbo, no problem. Because my old vf39 had no problems come to find out, I threw that back in and had them exchange the turbo for a front mount intercooler kit and a bov. I'd be willing to give it another shot. I dont think I gave it a proper break in period before ripping on it. The build quality was too good for me to believe that it was that bad of a turbo from the get go. I had an old 18g at one point that looked like ****, fit like ****, but lasted me two and a half years that I payed $550 for. But for now, im very happy with my vf39 fmic setup.

Thank you for trying one and giving your input. Sound like the CHRA is crap, but for the price, you could get good housings if needed.
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Old 05-26-2014, 12:28 PM   #11
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Thank you for trying one and giving your input. Sound like the CHRA is crap, but for the price, you could get good housings if needed.
What in the world would obtaining "good" housings do if the CHRA is crap and leaks all your oil into the exhaust housing and you end up with rod knock? Or better yet what if its the compressor side seal and you get enough det over time to trash a ringland (or several)? That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

Best to just buy new or have a reputable place rebuild the one you have....
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