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Old 02-17-2014, 11:56 AM   #26
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If you're currently using plain '05 WRX struts, why not try Koni inserts? I'm using those on my FXT with a set of USDM STi springs, and although they're adjustable, I've been happy enough with the setup that I haven't even bothered to play with the adjusters.
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Old 02-17-2014, 03:35 PM   #27
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The USDM pink STI springs are the same as the USDM take offs. Although they do make a rear pink wagon specific spring. Either is a great street spring for the WRX. You can find the take offs super cheap (sometimes free). If you have a sedan, the take offs are the real bargain.
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If you're currently using plain '05 WRX struts, why not try Koni inserts? I'm using those on my FXT with a set of USDM STi springs, and although they're adjustable, I've been happy enough with the setup that I haven't even bothered to play with the adjusters.
I think the oem Sti springs are exactly what I am looking for. As well as the Spt usdm springs. I don't think I would want the "jdm pink" springs, I would prefer the slightly softer usdm, and my plan is to find barely used oem "take off" Sti springs, after I figure out struts.

I would probably consider the Koni's (even though I dont want adjustables) if they were complete. Either way, I would prefer a non-adjustable strut. But all I can find are Kyb Excel-G ("too harsh" for stock springs apparently), Tokico Hp (blue) from a very few places that still have them and Pedders (never heard of them before lol)

All I want to do is replace my old worn out stock shocks with brand new shocks, and replace my stock springs with some that lower my car less than one inch and still be comfortable. A subtle increase in spring rate/ strut dampening would be a plus.

Would oem "take off" Sti springs and "too harsh" Kyb Excel G struts be a good matchup for a comfortable ride, hopefully 1/2" lower, and be a little firmer than 100% stock Wrx?
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Old 02-23-2014, 10:30 AM   #28
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Would oem "take off" Sti springs be a good match with Kyb Excel G struts? (the ones everyone says are too firm for stock)
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Old 02-23-2014, 01:16 PM   #29
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Would oem "take off" Sti springs be a good match with Kyb Excel G struts? (the ones everyone says are too firm for stock)
They will work fine.

The STI springs are at the upper limit of the struts, meaning the struts would not work with any spring with a higher spring rate then the STI take offs.
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Old 03-02-2014, 10:18 AM   #30
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They will work fine.

The STI springs are at the upper limit of the struts, meaning the struts would not work with any spring with a higher spring rate then the STI take offs.
Do you know of any springs with a higher spring rate than oem Wrx, but lower spring rate than Sti, that doesn't lower the Wrx more than oem Sti springs? I really do not want to go any lower than Sti springs, and that's probably as firm as I would want to be as well. I guess I will just give the Kyb Excel-G/Oem Sti combo a try, can't be any worse than completely worn stock 125k mile shocks/springs lol.
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Old 03-02-2014, 12:34 PM   #31
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Do you know of any springs with a higher spring rate than oem Wrx, but lower spring rate than Sti, that doesn't lower the Wrx more than oem Sti springs? I really do not want to go any lower than Sti springs, and that's probably as firm as I would want to be as well. I guess I will just give the Kyb Excel-G/Oem Sti combo a try, can't be any worse than completely worn stock 125k mile shocks/springs lol.
No, I don't know of any that fit that description.

The only thing that I can think of off the top of my head, would be going the Ground Control sleeve route. You can have custom spring rates with them. I doubt you want to go that way though.

Just give the Excell-G/STI combo a try. I think you will be pleased with it.
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No, I don't know of any that fit that description.

The only thing that I can think of off the top of my head, would be going the Ground Control sleeve route. You can have custom spring rates with them. I doubt you want to go that way though.

Just give the Excell-G/STI combo a try. I think you will be pleased with it.
You think Oem Sti "take off" springs are more up my alley than the Spt usdm "pink" springs?

Ground Controls/Koni's would be nice, if I raced my car, but its just my DD. Though I do like some fun spirited driving, and some dirt road fun, so I think stock STi springs and some "regular" shocks would be best.

You think Tokico Blue's would be better than Kyb Ecell G? (I think a few places still sell them)
You think I would be better off with Gr2's than Excell G? (If anyone still has any)


Would I need any different top hats to put this set up on? SHould I upgrade to group n top hats or something?
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You think Oem Sti "take off" springs are more up my alley than the Spt usdm "pink" springs?

Ground Controls/Koni's would be nice, if I raced my car, but its just my DD. Though I do like some fun spirited driving, and some dirt road fun, so I think stock STi springs and some "regular" shocks would be best.

You think Tokico Blue's would be better than Kyb Ecell G? (I think a few places still sell them)
You think I would be better off with Gr2's than Excell G? (If anyone still has any)

Would I need any different top hats to put this set up on? SHould I upgrade to group n top hats or something?
OEM take offs are the same as the SPT STI pink springs. The only exception is the pinks offer a wagon rear spring option. Considering you can find a set of take offs for any where from free to $100 for a set, that's the way I would go.

Tokico HP (blues) are an excellent stock type strut. They are a 02-03 fitment which is fine as long as you use 921 spacers (a special washer) on the rear strut rods, to be compatible with 04-07 strut tops. The 921 spacers are available at Turn in Concepts.

Group-N tops are GREAT for the FRONTS, but a waste of money in the rear. Stick with stock rear.

For STI springs you will need 04-07 strut tops.
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OEM take offs are the same as the SPT STI pink springs. The only exception is the pinks offer a wagon rear spring option. Considering you can find a set of take offs for any where from free to $100 for a set, that's the way I would go.

Tokico HP (blues) are an excellent stock type strut. They are a 02-03 fitment which is fine as long as you use 921 spacers (a special washer) on the rear strut rods, to be compatible with 04-07 strut tops. The 921 spacers are available at Turn in Concepts.

Group-N tops are GREAT for the FRONTS, but a waste of money in the rear. Stick with stock rear.

For STI springs you will need 04-07 strut tops.
Ok I think the Spt pinks were a little lower than Oem Sti.
Going on a 2005 Wrx sedan, just wondering if I should replace the tophats while I am there. So just get Kyb rear top hats and maybe Group N fronts? Any other part of the spring/strut assemble I should replace while its out?
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Would GroupN front strut mounts really be worth it on a DD with a little spirited driving? No autox or anything.

Or would new Kyb strut mounts be much better than 125k mile old stock strut mounts?
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Would GroupN front strut mounts really be worth it on a DD with a little spirited driving? No autox or anything.

Or would new Kyb strut mounts be much better than 125k mile old stock strut mounts?
Your stock fronts should be changed. The fronts are a wear item.

There is a very good difference between stock and Group-N fronts. Which way you want to go is up to you.
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Your stock fronts should be changed. The fronts are a wear item.

There is a very good difference between stock and Group-N fronts. Which way you want to go is up to you.
Meaning the backs usually dont "wear out"?
Should I replace the rears with new Kyb mounts?
Kyb front mounts are almost as much as GroupN, so I guess Ill go new GroupN for the front and maybe new Kyb's for the rear.

Anything else that needs to be replaced while I have all the strut/springs off?
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Meaning the backs usually dont "wear out"?
Should I replace the rears with new Kyb mounts?
Kyb front mounts are almost as much as GroupN, so I guess Ill go new GroupN for the front and maybe new Kyb's for the rear.

Anything else that needs to be replaced while I have all the strut/springs off?
That's a good plan.

As long as the bump stops and boots are in good shape (not torn or chewed up), then no
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Should I trim the bumpstops since the Sti springs are a little lower than Wrx springs?
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Not for the STI springs.
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