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Old 03-18-2014, 08:33 PM   #1
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Hello and thanks in advance for any responses..

I just bought a 2008 WRX Hatch... I am a paralyzed veteran in a wheelchair and am looking to find a shop in the Portland/ Northern Oregon area to help me get this car to where I want it.. it will be my daily driver and am not looking for show quality just a touch of sexiness with enough power to satisfy me.. lol... PRE Racing in Portland has quoted me 3k - 3.5k for a " an Invidia turboback downpipe/exhaust, cobb intake, boost controller and a tune. This sounds about where you would be happy with the car and still maintain a good safety margin with no internal engine work to be done" .. They said... I am just wondering if this sounds about right and if I want to upgrade the turbo should I do it now or see what this does and decide.. budget is not too much of an issue persay but I don't want to be spending over 6k .. just fyi ... Advice is much appreciated.....

Is the " boost controller " necessary ?
Is this price quote reasonable ?
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Old 03-18-2014, 08:41 PM   #2
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Wouldn't be to bad of a deal if you got everything installed and tuned for 3k. You could save yourself a decent amt of money by buying used tho. But just remember to have 6k set aside in case anything happens to your motor and need a rebuild! And no you should just start at stage 2 don't add a bigger turbo yet.
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Old 03-18-2014, 09:13 PM   #3
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you can do the 09+ VF52 turbo , but that'd require a bigger top-mount or front mount intercooler, and would get you a nice amount of power over the TD04 the 08s came with. combine that with the downpipe, exhaust, etc, it'd def be enough power to satisfy you.
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Old 03-18-2014, 10:28 PM   #4
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"3k - 3.5k for a " an Invidia turboback downpipe/exhaust, cobb intake, boost controller and a tune. "

new invidia catback.. probably 700-1000$. downpipe, 400$ to 600$ for catless/catted, intake.. probably 200-300$. boost controller probably not necessary but figure 150$. even being generous and using the high end, that's around 2000$. you mean to tell me that it's going to cost 1000-1500$ for an installation and tune? that's probably two hours of labor for the install and whatever's fair for a tune.. 400$ish, but if they require an access port, that's another 600$+ you have to eat. that's gotta be it .. the access port cost is throwing me off.

you could save heaps buying used parts or having friends help with the part installs, they are not difficult. they also don't HAVE to be invidia and cobb parts, although that's what I'm running on mine. you could just bring it in for a tune afterwards. I agree with the above suggestion of the newer turbo, it is quite drastically different and better.. and you could find a gently used one for a pretty affordable price. you could also save a lot by finding a good tuner that will tune on open source. if you are in the portland area, I would call English racing.

ultimately though, I'm just a dude on a message board and not the guy that will be tuning your car, so don't let me steer you in the wrong direction.
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Old 03-18-2014, 10:54 PM   #5
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Invidia q300 catback + catless dp + Cobb sf/box + install + gaskets + O/S Dyno tune for $2100. Of course, we have many, many more options available besides the usual exhaust and intake route. We are of course not in northern Oregon however.

No boost controller is needed for a stage 2 08 wrx. Get a bcs when you upgrade your turbo, but don't forget the intercooler and fuel supply also.

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Old 03-18-2014, 10:56 PM   #6
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"3k - 3.5k for a " an Invidia turboback downpipe/exhaust, cobb intake, boost controller and a tune. "

new invidia catback.. probably 700-1000$. downpipe, 400$ to 600$ for catless/catted, intake.. probably 200-300$. boost controller probably not necessary but figure 150$. even being generous and using the high end, that's around 2000$. you mean to tell me that it's going to cost 1000-1500$ for an installation and tune? that's probably two hours of labor for the install and whatever's fair for a tune.. 400$ish, but if they require an access port, that's another 600$+ you have to eat. that's gotta be it .. the access port cost is throwing me off.

you could save heaps buying used parts or having friends help with the part installs, they are not difficult. they also don't HAVE to be invidia and cobb parts, although that's what I'm running on mine. you could just bring it in for a tune afterwards. I agree with the above suggestion of the newer turbo, it is quite drastically different and better.. and you could find a gently used one for a pretty affordable price. you could also save a lot by finding a good tuner that will tune on open source. if you are in the portland area, I would call English racing.

ultimately though, I'm just a dude on a message board and not the guy that will be tuning your car, so don't let me steer you in the wrong direction.
Its a shop. Not a charity. They are there to make money working on cars. They have a great reputation. If he wants it cheaper, there are plenty of places that I'm sure could go. But sometimes its nice to pay for confidence, if you cant do the work yourself. That being said, I can bet that 1000-1500 on the table includes an accessport.
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Old 03-18-2014, 11:21 PM   #7
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You can save a lot of money buying used.
Boost controller isn't absolutely necessary, yet still beneficial. If there was any id recommend it would be a GrimSpeed EBC.

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Old 03-19-2014, 02:41 AM   #8
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There is a pretty active group around here and a more than a few guys would probably be down to lend a hand installing parts to save you a few $

As far as tuning goes I can only Recommend Cobb after my experiences with PRE's tune on my car.
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Old 03-19-2014, 03:39 AM   #9
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Invidia q300 catback + catless dp + Cobb sf/box + install + gaskets + O/S Dyno tune for $2100. Of course, we have many, many more options available besides the usual exhaust and intake route. We are of course not in northern Oregon however.

No boost controller is needed for a stage 2 08 wrx. Get a bcs when you upgrade your turbo, but don't forget the intercooler and fuel supply also.

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Goes to show, shop around. You can buy online too, there area number of vendors on this forum (Not PacNW ones) that will discount deep for your business. Where as most quoted prices at many shops are near MSRP, which is often a pretty high margin item.

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Old 03-19-2014, 04:02 AM   #10
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Invidia q300 catback + catless dp + Cobb sf/box + install + gaskets + O/S Dyno tune for $2100. Of course, we have many, many more options available besides the usual exhaust and intake route. We are of course not in northern Oregon however. No boost controller is needed for a stage 2 08 wrx. Get a bcs when you upgrade your turbo, but don't forget the intercooler and fuel supply also. Cheers! -JohnJohn
Outback auto is an awesome shop and they have never failed me.
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Old 03-19-2014, 04:29 AM   #11
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Its a shop. Not a charity. They are there to make money working on cars. They have a great reputation. If he wants it cheaper, there are plenty of places that I'm sure could go. But sometimes its nice to pay for confidence, if you cant do the work yourself. That being said, I can bet that 1000-1500 on the table includes an accessport.
of course, I don't expect anyone to work for free... there's a lot of overhead when it comes to retail.. but there is a decent amount of profit on the table so I wanted to make sure the OP knew about what things should cost instead of just given a total number, and what alternatives he may have. when I was tallying it up I didn't think about the potential AP requirement until later in the process, so it was throwing me off heavily. a couple to a few hundred is fair for labor, the access port cost is fixed, and then the tuning costs. it started to add up at the end.
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Old 03-19-2014, 07:36 PM   #12
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There is a pretty active group around here and a more than a few guys would probably be down to lend a hand installing parts to save you a few $ As far as tuning goes I can only Recommend Cobb after my experiences with PRE's tune on my car.
I've really held my tongue about PRE but I second this person here. PRE is tryna to make a buck off you. I had them build me a hybrid motor a few years back and they tried stealing my 2 liter short block as well as a list of parts that were taken and replaced with OEM parts without giving me notification. Let's just say I settled with them out of court. For a customer to spend over $4,000 and than have them try to screw me over like I didn't know every last single part under my hood was just an insult and a slap to the face. Not to mention they just assumed I didn't want my perfectly good 2liter shortblock. They tried to tell me it was no good, yet they had already installed it on one of there shop cars. I was refunded for the full price of a shortblock and the parts that were taken were given back. Stay away from PRE. Go to a better shop/tuner like COBB, EnglishRacing or OutbackAuto.
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Old 03-20-2014, 01:20 AM   #13
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But that's just my experience.. I don't want to slander a shop.. But it's exactly what happened lol
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Old 03-20-2014, 11:57 AM   #14
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There is a pretty active group around here and a more than a few guys would probably be down to lend a hand installing parts to save you a few $
I would totally be down with hanging out and turning wrenches.
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