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Old 04-13-2014, 09:23 PM   #176
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crosspost from the Outback foglight thread

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i'm about 99% certain that the factory foglight wiring cannot actually handle the power requirements of H11 foglights.

1 of my wires on the drivers side was extremely oxidized and both on the passenger side are. it is possible the wires were bad, but after cutting back a lot from connectors to find some good copper to solder my new connectors to, I'm really really really worried about the longevity of these wires with factory wiring.

I'm going to put in a relay with some 12g or 14g and run the power straight off the battery and just use the factory wiring to trigger the relay. I won't have to worry about burning out the wires and the H11 bulbs will probably be brighter!
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Old 04-16-2014, 07:24 PM   #177
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Do you think the independent wiring bypassing the BIU could be suspect also?
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Old 04-16-2014, 09:16 PM   #178
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Do you think the independent wiring bypassing the BIU could be suspect also?
No. I don't think the wire is capable of the amps required, it is too long of a wire run at a tiny gauge, it simply can't handle any more than stock.

I will post pics tomorrow when I'm done. Adding the relay under the hood is really easy and will probably make them brighter than before because off almost no voltage drop between relay and lights unlike factory wiring.

Depending on where you source a relay total cost to rewire is under 30.00
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Old 04-17-2014, 03:09 PM   #179
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No. I don't think the wire is capable of the amps required, it is too long of a wire run at a tiny gauge, it simply can't handle any more than stock.

I will post pics tomorrow when I'm done. Adding the relay under the hood is really easy and will probably make them brighter than before because off almost no voltage drop between relay and lights unlike factory wiring.

Depending on where you source a relay total cost to rewire is under 30.00
Can you take to pictures of where you mount the relay and how you're going to route the wire?

I've been wanting to do this for a while, (I have all the parts), maybe some inspiration will help
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Old 04-17-2014, 08:39 PM   #180
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Can you take to pictures of where you mount the relay and how you're going to route the wire?

I've been wanting to do this for a while, (I have all the parts), maybe some inspiration will help
Yes, tomorrow. I took them today but have much more time to post tomorrow.

For me it was a 7 hour process, but it also looks 100% factory and most would never be able to tell the difference
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Old 04-17-2014, 11:10 PM   #181
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Teaser pic. They are brighter than before, not double, but definitely brighter. Without the snow, my phone camera doesn't pic up the yellow, but I can assure the entire area was yellow!

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Old 04-18-2014, 03:07 PM   #182
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Relay location
the front relay is for the Fogs and the back relay is for my Horns. the horn one has been in this location since I put the horns on almost 2 years ago. it was starting to get a bit of corrosion, so I cleaned it up and sprayed the crap out of both with terminal protection spray.

You could technically just extend both wires from the fog wiring to your relay, but I opted to only send up the White colored wire and just grounded the relay to the same location as my horns (plugs that ground on the drivers side was really really burnt)




Signal from the fog wiring to the relay
the harness comes out pretty much right below the washer resevoir, there is a perfectly sized space to thread the wire up there and then i just snaked it under the bottom of the battery to where it comes up on the back side of the battery.



Driver's Side
If you follow the wires to the right you can see where the factory wires run. Remove the splash guard/skid plate and then you can run your new wires right next to the existing. There is probably enough room in the loom for 2 new 14ga wires but i opted to just run new loom.



Passenger Side

I mounted my ground in the same hole that held the DRL resistor (still working on new DRL's, a different thread entirely, but I might use the fogs as i have very convenient wiring now)




Final Pics

No lights, Low beams, Fogs, driving fogs only. in that order




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Old 04-18-2014, 10:12 PM   #183
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Here is my drivers side wires. The ground here is the only wire that was good. The passenger side were both black and brittle. I fear melting insulation wasn't too far off as I couldn't find any good wire after cutting off nearly 12" hence why I rewired

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