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Old 06-25-2014, 08:04 PM   #1
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2012 WRX. 10,000 miles. No mods other than AP OTS stage 1 tune. Mine since new (2years 2 months). Don't drive like an idiot. Not hard on it. About a month ago I started noticing a noise only when shifting from 1st to 2nd. I guess it's kind of a servo type noise (something spinning really fast). I'm not super familiar with this transmission. Syncro noise? The noise is fast initially and slows down...it all lasts maybe a second. It stops on its own even if I just clutch in and leave the clutch in. Just a real quick "sphewww." Why would I only hear it 1st to 2nd? And why would it start now?
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Old 06-26-2014, 03:26 AM   #2
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Interesting. I got same problem with mine
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Old 06-26-2014, 06:33 AM   #3
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I have a sound matching your description on my 2003 bugeye. Sound like something starts doing a noise while it was spinning fast and then slows down in a second with a pheewww sound. Reminds me of the sound a bullet ricochet would do, but faint sound.

I think it might be related to the release bearing (throw out bearing?) either slowly going bad (in my case) or maybe just noisy (in your case, because car is mostly new)

It seems to be pretty common on recent and farly new wrx:

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=2220677
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Old 06-26-2014, 08:49 AM   #4
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Interesting. I got same problem with mine
When did your's start?

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Old 06-26-2014, 11:12 AM   #5
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I have a sound matching your description on my 2003 bugeye. Sound like something starts doing a noise while it was spinning fast and then slows down in a second with a pheewww sound. Reminds me of the sound a bullet ricochet would do, but faint sound. I think it might be related to the release bearing (throw out bearing?) either slowly going bad (in my case) or maybe just noisy (in your case, because car is mostly new) It seems to be pretty common on recent and farly new wrx: http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=2220677
In regards to the thread you linked to, I have the cold morning clutch in noise they are talking about. My current concern is quite different. It's only with moving and shifting from 1st to 2nd only. And it's a much different noise that the cold throw out bearing noise.
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Old 06-26-2014, 12:14 PM   #6
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Ok then my noise is like yours and not like the thread I posted.
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Old 06-26-2014, 04:25 PM   #7
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Okay, tried a few things. It ONLY makes the noise when I physically move the shifter from to 1st to 2nd only. If I take off in 1st, clutch in and do nothing (don't move shifter) then there is no noise. I can sit there with the clutch pedal pressed in and not move the shifter for any amount of time and as soon as I move the shifter into 2nd I get the noise. If I take off in 1st, clutch pedal in, then move the shifter into neutral there is no noise. What's happening?!?!
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When did your's start?
mine started at 32k miles
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Old 06-27-2014, 01:15 AM   #9
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mine started at 32k miles
Other than the noise did you notice anything else different? Did it get louder over time?
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Old 06-27-2014, 03:36 AM   #10
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change

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Old 06-27-2014, 05:36 AM   #11
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Other than the noise did you notice anything else different? Did it get louder over time?
i do notice it gets a bit louder when it's hot outside. 90 degrees and above.
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Old 06-27-2014, 05:37 AM   #12
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change the trans lube
i did that at 30k.
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Old 06-27-2014, 09:03 AM   #13
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change the trans lube
Shouldn't need to do that with only 10k miles. But I'm more wondering what mechanically might be going on and why it's so specific in when it does it. I don't expect anyone to diagnose it online but was hoping someone who really understands transmissions (especially this transmission) could shed some light on how/why I might be having this symptom...or why the noise is only occurring with such specific actions only.
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Old 06-28-2014, 04:08 PM   #14
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anyone?!?!?!?
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Old 06-28-2014, 04:33 PM   #15
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Shouldn't need to do that with only 10k miles. But I'm more wondering what mechanically might be going on and why it's so specific in when it does it. I don't expect anyone to diagnose it online but was hoping someone who really understands transmissions (especially this transmission) could shed some light on how/why I might be having this symptom...or why the noise is only occurring with such specific actions only.

Honestly you should change the fluid right after the 1k break in. I waited and changed mine at 30k. I do not get this noise in my 13.
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Old 06-28-2014, 07:57 PM   #16
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Honestly you should change the fluid right after the 1k break in. I waited and changed mine at 30k. I do not get this noise in my 13.
Not true. Both SOA and many tuners will tell you it's not necessary. You can do it if it makes you feel better but there's not much difference. The only exception is if you built the motor.
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Not true. Both SOA and many tuners will tell you it's not necessary. You can do it if it makes you feel better but there's not much difference. The only exception is if you built the motor.
....so....'splain why those of us who DO change out gear lube early and often are NOT posting about haveing problems with our transmissions

'splain me that.....
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i did that at 30k.
with WHAT exactly???

be very specific
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Old 06-28-2014, 09:21 PM   #19
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with WHAT exactly??? be very specific
i changed fluid in diff and transmission with oem subaru diff and transmission fluid.
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i changed fluid in diff and transmission with oem subaru diff and transmission fluid.


THE ABOVE IS A PRIME EXAMPLE OF NOT BEING SPECIFIC IN ANY SORT OF WAY

you put crisco in it??

i want to know what the bottle said on it....the entire content description
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....so....'splain why those of us who DO change out gear lube early and often are NOT posting about haveing problems with our transmissions 'splain me that.....
This thread is the first I've heard about an early transmission fluid change...not that I researched it...never even thought about it. What's the rationale for an early change? And Scotty, are you meaning an early change specifically with your cocktail (or something like it) or even a change with Subaru S is beneficial early on?
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THE ABOVE IS A PRIME EXAMPLE OF NOT BEING SPECIFIC IN ANY SORT OF WAY you put crisco in it?? i want to know what the bottle said on it....the entire content description
Subaru 75w90 extra S gear and transmission fluid.

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Old 07-16-2014, 02:10 PM   #23
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Just left my dealership - said something is not right with second. They are ordering all parts related to second gear and then I leave it for a tearing apart...then replacing what needs replacing. Very arbitrary...but at least they are wanting to fix it. And in reality I'm sure there's no way to know until taking it apart.
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Old 07-19-2014, 12:09 AM   #24
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Is there anything I should be concerned about with them possibly only replacing some parts in my transmission versus all new transmission?
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Old 07-20-2014, 10:03 AM   #25
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Sounds like 1st to 2nd synchro noise. I wasn't aware it was unusual, but mine is louder due to group n tranny mount and pitch stop.
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