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Old 04-07-2008, 04:36 PM   #26
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It was on stock pads/lines/fluid/4 pots front/stocks rear and re70's and my wagon was on stock pads/lines/fluid/stock f&r calipers and S-03's. I could stop on avg 2-5ft quicker than he could. Once he swapped to ss lines/4-2pots/hps pads it was reversed. 5 feet of braking for $1000 wasn't worth it IMHO. I'm going h6 rears/pads/fluid instead. I wish he still had the 03 so I could compare, but he's got an 05 STi now, though it'll be interesting to see how my upgrade compares to his Brembo's.
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Old 08-21-2014, 01:37 PM   #27
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Soon to be Installing the 4/2 pots and hopefully I will like them. Purchased the kartboy adapters so there will be no issues what so ever. Found them super cheap on a girls wrx locally and she did 6spd swap like myself just went with brembos. I'm too cheap :/ 300$ for all
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Old 08-21-2014, 02:09 PM   #28
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good pads would do a lot better than an upgrade to 4pots.
but i have project mu pads on my 4pots front and rear and stops perfectly!
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Old 08-21-2014, 03:23 PM   #29
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good pads would do a lot better than an upgrade to 4pots.
but i have project mu pads on my 4pots front and rear and stops perfectly!
Tires would do more than pads.
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Old 08-22-2014, 07:54 AM   #30
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Tires would do more than pads.
not for anything other than a single stop they wouldn't. and single stop isn't why you do a brake upgrade.
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Old 08-22-2014, 11:12 AM   #31
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not for anything other than a single stop they wouldn't. and single stop isn't why you do a brake upgrade.
The same can be said for stock sized rotors... Tires make a more dramatic braking difference than pads. Yes under *certain* conditions better pads make sense under your scenario. But there is always an exception you can make to any argument.

I'll take better tires on the street 100% of the time over better pads. I'll look for a compromise on a race track based on the track type and event type.

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Old 08-22-2014, 04:18 PM   #32
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The same can be said for stock sized rotors... Tires make a more dramatic braking difference than pads. Yes under *certain* conditions better pads make sense under your scenario. But there is always an exception you can make to any argument.

I'll take better tires on the street 100% of the time over better pads. I'll look for a compromise on a race track based on the track type and event type.

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did you not understand what i posted? YOU DON'T DO BRAKE UPGRADES FOR SINGLE STOPS.
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Old 08-22-2014, 04:23 PM   #33
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did you not understand what i posted? YOU DON'T DO BRAKE UPGRADES FOR SINGLE STOPS.
And you do, with the same size rotor and 4pots?

Get over it.
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Old 08-22-2014, 06:55 PM   #34
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As stated from some others, I have the jdm 4pots up front with H6 in the back along with SS lines and dot4.

I like the pedal feel from the 4pots and the increase of response I got with them.

Was recently looking at the rear 2pots but it just does not seem worth it for the cost of calipers, brackets and new rotors. The only benefit I see being lighter (aluminum) calipers and the fact that they look hellacoolbrah.

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Old 08-22-2014, 07:48 PM   #35
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And you do, with the same size rotor and 4pots?

Get over it.
what the f**k are you even saying?

brake upgrades are for HEAT CAPACITY. from MULTIPLE STOPS. that happen on a RACE TRACK. hell drag racers have been known to put SMALLER brakes on their cars to cut down on the weight. why? because they ONLY NEED TO STOP ONCE.

if you "upgrade" brakes for the street, you're an idiot.


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As stated from some others, I have the jdm 4pots up front with H6 in the back along with SS lines and dot4.

I like the pedal feel from the 4pots and the increase of response I got with them.

Was recently looking at the rear 2pots but it just does not seem worth it for the cost of calipers, brackets and new rotors. The only benefit I see being lighter (aluminum) calipers and the fact that they look hellacoolbrah.
the rear 2pots come with a 290x18mm VENTED rotor, vs the 290x10mm SOLID rotor on the "H6". again, it's a heat capacity thing.

but do i think you'll overheat the H6 rear before you do the 4pot front? nope.
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Old 08-22-2014, 08:20 PM   #36
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I understand the heat capacity idea behind the vented rotors completely. Even so, I feel like the heat dispersion of the blank vented rotors vs. cross drilled solids on the rear of the car would not be too much of a performance difference to justify the substantial cost of doing the rear 2 pots.
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Old 08-22-2014, 08:56 PM   #37
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I understand the heat capacity idea behind the vented rotors completely. Even so, I feel like the heat dispersion of the blank vented rotors vs. cross drilled solids on the rear of the car would not be too much of a performance difference to justify the substantial cost of doing the rear 2 pots.
and i agreed with you...

once you get some meaner brakes than the front 294mm rotor (brembo upgrade for example) i'd move to rear 2pots though.
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Old 08-28-2014, 11:22 PM   #38
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I did the front 4 pot, rear 2 pot, new rotors, stainless lines and a grimspeed mc brace today. The mc brace was the most unpleasant bit.

All 4 of my old sliders were dragging, killing a new set of front rotors i 5k kms. The rear rotors were complete toast, they were 90% deglazed.

I am fairly happy now, i am quite picky about my brake feel and the first .75 inch is still mushy. Ill drive it a few days and bleed again.

KNS provided everything needed and answered a couple of install questions vry promptly amd patiently.

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