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02-25-2015, 12:09 PM | #1 |
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Opinion on Fifteen52 and ADV1
It's that time of year where most people who want some new wheels for the summer start placing orders. I've traditionally always run BBS wheels but it's time for a change.
I've been looking at a few wheel companies such as Fifteen52, HRE, ADV1 and advan wheels. Each company has a set of wheels that i swoon over. I know HRE and Advan wheels make super high quality wheels but the price is pushing me into an uncomfortable range. ADV1 and Fifteen52 seem to be a little new to me. Their prices don't seem to awful, but I know nothing about their quality. Anyone have an opinion on their quality? Anyone in love with their Fifteen52 or ADV1? Have they held up? Does anyone have bad blood with either company? Thanks
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02-25-2015, 05:08 PM | #2 |
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buy cheap wheels that fit
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02-25-2015, 07:29 PM | #3 |
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02-25-2015, 07:36 PM | #4 |
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I do like the SSR TF1. I was concerned with their wheel sizes. 18x9+32 I think it was I didn't want to go lower than 18x9+37
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They make an 18x9 +37..... |
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02-25-2015, 08:43 PM | #8 |
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They make an 18x9 +37.....
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I did NOT say buy JUNK wheels I said buy CHEAP wheels that FIT there IS a HUGE difference buying $500/ea(or more) wheels for a street car is an idiots move buying $250/ea wheels is 'cheap' in comparison there are plenty of 'cheap' wheels that aren't junk |
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02-26-2015, 12:18 AM | #11 |
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The only thing that I find as an issue with either brand is that most of their offerings are pretty heavy. Additionally, ADV.1 wheels tend to look better with very low offsets (then again, I've only ever dealt with ADV.1 wheels for GT-Rs).
As someone suggested before, SSR wheels are awesome. I've had a set of Weds as well, both brands look great in the +35-40 offset range. |
02-26-2015, 09:12 AM | #12 |
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Thanks for the input. The SSR TF1 has moved into a top slot. I need to make some inquires today during lunch with avant garde.
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Fifteen 52 has awesome customer service. Chris over there is great.
I can't say anything about ADV1, never dealt with them. I have 3 sets of forged wheels at the moment and have owned Rotas and other replica cast wheels in the past on multiple different vehicles in multiple sizes. I have never been on a track and I only have ever had 1 vehicle at a time as my daily driver. Every set of cast wheels I have had have gotten bends in them from being street driven. My BBS LMs were driven on the shortest sidewall tires of all of them and still spin perfectly true. Quality cast wheels definitely aren't always bad. Forged wheels are pretty much always stronger and lighter in comparison but the cost is significantly higher. Just don't buy cheap junk knock off wheels, please. |
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02-26-2015, 06:46 PM | #16 |
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As far as the barrels go, they're usually some kind of aluminum alloy. A strong barrel has the perfect balance of the metals that go into that (usually Aluminum and Nickel). A forged alloy will always be stronger than a cast alloy. As far as spoke design for the face, the thicker the spoke, the stronger the wheel will be. Also strength is impacted by where the spoke meets the barrel. Some placements are stronger than others.
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Why are pretty much all competition rally wheels cast? Quote:
My Braid WinraceTA's had pretty thin spokes. So do XD9's, so do NT03's, etc. Quote:
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in comparison to a forged wheel that would do this: (LOTS OF BENDS) But sure both wheels are toast. Quote:
THIN SPOKE VS. THICKER SPOKE |
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Anyone can google and find pictures of damaged or broken wheels expensive or cheap even factory, and all of them can failure in different ways. Quote:
What matters (and what engineers are paid to design) is the way force gets transfered through the wheel. Heres a magnesium race wheel (magnesium is weaker than 6061 aluminum), with few, thin spokes. In conclusion, you've offered zero evidence, other than googling a few pictures that have no context. |
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the BIGGEST issue with wheel bending is too little air pressure in the tires on the wheels
if ya think you need to run less than ~34psi....it is almost certain that you will bend whatever wheel you run at some point or another |
02-27-2015, 08:53 AM | #22 |
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This thread got out of hand. I went with avant garde. Thanks for all the input. And I'd never buy a cast wheel. Forged is really the only way to go.
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Most avant garde wheels are cast There is absolutely nothing wrong with a cast weel. Nothing. Sent from my iPhone using NASIOC |
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02-27-2015, 09:04 AM | #24 |
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Wheels I bought are forged.
Also avant garde makes 75 different wheel styles. Of the 75 I believe less than 15 are cast. So most are NOT cast. Sent from my XT1080 using NASIOC mobile app Last edited by bearly; 02-27-2015 at 09:11 AM. |
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The Cor wheel has thin spokes and is a "forged wheel" and it broke, proving my point that a thin spoke will break with less force applied than a thicker spoke. The Advan (also forged) has direct impact marks (and dents!) on the face of the wheel, but it didn't separate from the spokes. But whatever, according to you I'll always be wrong and blah blah blah. No point in arguing with a fool who is arguing just to argue. Find someone else to bother. I'm done here. |
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