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m3the01 · 02-19-2001, 05:59 PM

Could someone please get me in contact with someone in japan who speaks english so that i might arrange them to pick me up some options japanese spec STi headlights. I luv them so much, the turn signal is on the top. I think they would be legal i dont see why not.

thanks my email address is m3the01@hotmail.com

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gossamer_monster · 02-19-2001, 06:10 PM

The US spec WRX`s headlight are on top.

m3the01 · 02-19-2001, 06:14 PM

the triple sti headlights thanks again everyone

impez · 02-19-2001, 06:15 PM

also, i think this has all been discussed before: j-spec/RHD lights will have the wrong beam pattern for us/LHD cars, so until someone produces HIDs specific to LHD cars, your outta luck.

m3the01 · 02-19-2001, 06:17 PM

sorry dont understand beam patterns?eplain please

thanks again

WRXRob · 02-19-2001, 06:21 PM

The beam pattern is assymetric. On a LHD car, the beams point to the right. On a RHD car, the beams point to the left.

There is a Canadian rallye car that will be running the HID lights. They will apparently give a report on whether they work well or not. I wouldn't drop $3k CDN on the lights without knowing how well they work.

m3the01 · 02-19-2001, 06:28 PM

I have seen these lights when they are on they look fine.the distance is better then most north american spec cars headlight distance.
any info on price. I was told 1250us plus frieght

impez · 02-19-2001, 06:42 PM

um....nevermind

RidinLow · 02-19-2001, 06:56 PM

I wouldn't buy any lights designed for RHD cars. You'd really be a menace to society with a setup like that... you may as well just leave your high beams all the time too.

lackey · 02-19-2001, 06:56 PM

Basically, with Japanese-spec headlights, you'd be driving along blinding on-coming traffic and not doing that great a job of lighting the road ahead of you. The light just wouldn't be pointing where you want it to.

shawrf1 · 02-19-2001, 07:11 PM

Try Yoshi in Sakai... you can usually reach him on the corner of ¥Û¥ï¥¤¥È¥Ç¡ and ¼¤Î½àÈ÷¤Ï near the deli. Make sure you tell him ¸¶Àø¡¢¼Â½¬Á¥¾×ÆÍ»ö¸Î sent you and you'll get a 10% discount off your headlight purchase.

...Or you can run a search under 'HID' and you'd find http://www.i-club.com/ubb-files/Foru...ML/000035.html

Oh, though noone has done it yet in this thread, I'd like to point out that it bugs me when people refer to the housings as the HIDs when the projector-type housings are offered in the JDM-WRX w/Halogen lighting as well as JDM-STi w/HIDs. Check your e-mail, m3the01.

[This message has been edited by shawrf1 (edited February 19, 2001).]

m3the01 · 02-19-2001, 07:15 PM

I understand what you are saying but i cant believe that it would be that bad for oncoming traffic. think about it that would mean that if someone driving the same direction as you and they were on the right hnd side of you on a double or triple highway per direction would be blinded by your headlights in there rear view mirror. I cant believe that its that bad. I understand what you are saying but i went down to my legacy and went about a hundred yards ahead of the car and went way left and way right there is no difference. Well there is a slight difference but not enough to be a danger

thanks for everyones help but i do believe i am going to buy these headlights. Anyone have any contacts?

RidinLow · 02-19-2001, 07:18 PM

It is very bad for oncoming traffic! I had to pass an Explorer parked facing me on my side of the road last night & I couldn't see a thing because I was blinded. Forgive me for saying so, but you would really be an inconsiderate jerk for buying these lights just for show (or for anything for that matter).

AKGC8 · 02-19-2001, 07:32 PM

The only reason an Explorer is bad is because its lights are so high off the ground. For a car, RHD lights wouldn't be *that* bad. Think about the rest of the world. There are a lot of people running around Europe with cars designed for the opposite side of the road than whatever country they are in. Its not like the lights are actually aimed towards one side of the road, they just have a little extra flare upwards. It would be no worse than driving around a left hand turn with traffic facing you and their lights pointing directly at you.

On a second note, the hypocritical attitude of a lot of people on this board really bothers me some times. Sure taping over your turn signals or removing your catalytic converters are okay, but having RHD headlights would make you a menace to society.

Edit, and Ridinlow, this wasn't directed at you because I know you've been against those eyelids too.

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RidinLow · 02-19-2001, 07:37 PM

But still, you definitely notice the difference, & it can be quite blinding. If you still don't believe me, take your car out to an open field at night & tell me that there isn't significantly more glare when you crouch on the opposite side at seated height.

Ahh, whatever, do what you want... I'll never see you on the road anyway.

m3the01 · 02-19-2001, 07:45 PM

thats what i did, on a perfectly dark dark night. There really isnt much glare. Besides how many times have you seen a right hand drive car over here. They really arnt that bad. I think people just look for things to argue about. If you havent done the pitch dark test and looked at both sides of your car in a crouching position dont comment on this. Unless that is you have a friend in japan that can hook me up, becaus ei am going to do the HID conversion to STI spec.
sorry to all you io just want a link or contact

thanks again sorry if i sounded rude.

shawrf1 · 02-19-2001, 07:58 PM

E-mailed you, m3the01.

[This message has been edited by shawrf1 (edited February 19, 2001).]

RidinLow · 02-19-2001, 08:20 PM

I have done the stand on the wrong side of the car test, if that's what you're inferring. In fact, I do research on this kind of stuff.

Edit: I wouldn't argue about stuff like this if I didn't think it was important. I have better things to do with my time than to bull**** to people on the web.

[This message has been edited by RidinLow (edited February 19, 2001).]

skibaru · 02-19-2001, 08:49 PM

There are pictures of two LHD WRXs with the HIDS installed from the Toronto auto show. Are these just for show or are they real?

Shawrf1, good point about the housings, which begs the question - why didn't Subaru give us these housings that everybody seems to like better with halogen lights instead of the HID lights? It would not be a big cost difference and hardly anyone likes the looks of the US housings.

EricB · 02-20-2001, 08:49 AM

Frankly, standing in a field trying to discern the light pattern is really not a very scientific or valid test. What you really need to do is get a RHD drive car, with HID's, and have it drive at you.

Or contact Daniel Stern at http://lighting.mbz.org/ who I'm sure knows more about lighting than any of us. I did just this, and he emphasized that lights designed for a RHD car WILL blind drivers in a LHD country. If you really are interested in the facts, you would be smart to contact him and talk about it.

If you don't care about the facts, go ahead. But expect lots of cars to flash their high beams at you because you'll be blinding them.

Eric

Adrian128 · 02-20-2001, 08:57 AM

Won't they have beam adjusters, or those screws that you turn to redirect the aiming of the headlights? Just wondering..cause I know the non projector lenses have them.

autorex · 02-20-2001, 09:31 AM

Even if they do have adjusters, the actual beam patterns are different between LHD and RHD.

02-19-2001, 05:59 PM	#1
m3the01 Scooby Newbie Member#: 4117 Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: edmonton	please read new headlights Could someone please get me in contact with someone in japan who speaks english so that i might arrange them to pick me up some options japanese spec STi headlights. I luv them so much, the turn signal is on the top. I think they would be legal i dont see why not. thanks my email address is m3the01@hotmail.com * Registered users of the site do not see these ads.

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02-19-2001, 06:10 PM	#2
gossamer_monster Scooby Specialist Member#: 3574 Join Date: Jan 2001 Chapter/Region: NESIC Vehicle: 2002 WRX Blase' Yellow----R.I.P.	The US spec WRX`s headlight are on top.

02-19-2001, 06:14 PM	#3
m3the01 Scooby Newbie Member#: 4117 Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: edmonton	the triple sti headlights thanks again everyone

02-19-2001, 06:15 PM	#4
impez Scooby Newbie Member#: 3622 Join Date: Jan 2001 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: Chicago and beyond Vehicle: 2002 WRX Platinum Visa Metallic	also, i think this has all been discussed before: j-spec/RHD lights will have the wrong beam pattern for us/LHD cars, so until someone produces HIDs specific to LHD cars, your outta luck.

02-19-2001, 06:17 PM	#5
m3the01 Scooby Newbie Member#: 4117 Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: edmonton	sorry dont understand beam patterns?eplain please thanks again

02-19-2001, 06:21 PM	#6
WRXRob Scooby Specialist Member#: 3087 Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada	The beam pattern is assymetric. On a LHD car, the beams point to the right. On a RHD car, the beams point to the left. There is a Canadian rallye car that will be running the HID lights. They will apparently give a report on whether they work well or not. I wouldn't drop $3k CDN on the lights without knowing how well they work.

02-19-2001, 06:28 PM	#7
m3the01 Scooby Newbie Member#: 4117 Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: edmonton	I have seen these lights when they are on they look fine.the distance is better then most north american spec cars headlight distance. any info on price. I was told 1250us plus frieght

02-19-2001, 06:42 PM	#8
impez Scooby Newbie Member#: 3622 Join Date: Jan 2001 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: Chicago and beyond Vehicle: 2002 WRX Platinum Visa Metallic	um....nevermind

02-19-2001, 06:56 PM	#9
RidinLow Scooby Guru Member#: 329 Join Date: Sep 1999 Chapter/Region: Tri-State Location: NJ Vehicle: 1995 325i Arctic Gray	I wouldn't buy any lights designed for RHD cars. You'd really be a menace to society with a setup like that... you may as well just leave your high beams all the time too.

02-19-2001, 06:56 PM	#10
lackey Scooby Newbie Member#: 209 Join Date: Aug 1999 Location: Dallas,Tx, USA	Basically, with Japanese-spec headlights, you'd be driving along blinding on-coming traffic and not doing that great a job of lighting the road ahead of you. The light just wouldn't be pointing where you want it to.

02-19-2001, 07:11 PM	#11
shawrf1 Scooby Specialist Member#: 3466 Join Date: Jan 2001	Try Yoshi in Sakai... you can usually reach him on the corner of ¥Û¥ï¥¤¥È¥Ç¡ and ¼¤Î½àÈ÷¤Ï near the deli. Make sure you tell him ¸¶Àø¡¢¼Â½¬Á¥¾×ÆÍ»ö¸Î sent you and you'll get a 10% discount off your headlight purchase. ...Or you can run a search under 'HID' and you'd find http://www.i-club.com/ubb-files/Foru...ML/000035.html Oh, though noone has done it yet in this thread, I'd like to point out that it bugs me when people refer to the housings as the HIDs when the projector-type housings are offered in the JDM-WRX w/Halogen lighting as well as JDM-STi w/HIDs. Check your e-mail, m3the01. [This message has been edited by shawrf1 (edited February 19, 2001).]

02-19-2001, 07:15 PM	#12
m3the01 Scooby Newbie Member#: 4117 Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: edmonton	I understand what you are saying but i cant believe that it would be that bad for oncoming traffic. think about it that would mean that if someone driving the same direction as you and they were on the right hnd side of you on a double or triple highway per direction would be blinded by your headlights in there rear view mirror. I cant believe that its that bad. I understand what you are saying but i went down to my legacy and went about a hundred yards ahead of the car and went way left and way right there is no difference. Well there is a slight difference but not enough to be a danger thanks for everyones help but i do believe i am going to buy these headlights. Anyone have any contacts?

02-19-2001, 07:18 PM	#13
RidinLow Scooby Guru Member#: 329 Join Date: Sep 1999 Chapter/Region: Tri-State Location: NJ Vehicle: 1995 325i Arctic Gray	It is very bad for oncoming traffic! I had to pass an Explorer parked facing me on my side of the road last night & I couldn't see a thing because I was blinded. Forgive me for saying so, but you would really be an inconsiderate jerk for buying these lights just for show (or for anything for that matter).

02-19-2001, 07:32 PM	#14
AKGC8 Scooby Specialist Member#: 1305 Join Date: Apr 2000 Chapter/Region: AKIC Vehicle: 2000 Impreza	The only reason an Explorer is bad is because its lights are so high off the ground. For a car, RHD lights wouldn't be that bad. Think about the rest of the world. There are a lot of people running around Europe with cars designed for the opposite side of the road than whatever country they are in. Its not like the lights are actually aimed towards one side of the road, they just have a little extra flare upwards. It would be no worse than driving around a left hand turn with traffic facing you and their lights pointing directly at you. On a second note, the hypocritical attitude of a lot of people on this board really bothers me some times. Sure taping over your turn signals or removing your catalytic converters are okay, but having RHD headlights would make you a menace to society. Edit, and Ridinlow, this wasn't directed at you because I know you've been against those eyelids too. [This message has been edited by Eby (edited February 19, 2001).]

02-19-2001, 07:37 PM	#15
RidinLow Scooby Guru Member#: 329 Join Date: Sep 1999 Chapter/Region: Tri-State Location: NJ Vehicle: 1995 325i Arctic Gray	But still, you definitely notice the difference, & it can be quite blinding. If you still don't believe me, take your car out to an open field at night & tell me that there isn't significantly more glare when you crouch on the opposite side at seated height. Ahh, whatever, do what you want... I'll never see you on the road anyway.

02-19-2001, 07:45 PM	#16
m3the01 Scooby Newbie Member#: 4117 Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: edmonton	thats what i did, on a perfectly dark dark night. There really isnt much glare. Besides how many times have you seen a right hand drive car over here. They really arnt that bad. I think people just look for things to argue about. If you havent done the pitch dark test and looked at both sides of your car in a crouching position dont comment on this. Unless that is you have a friend in japan that can hook me up, becaus ei am going to do the HID conversion to STI spec. sorry to all you io just want a link or contact thanks again sorry if i sounded rude.

02-19-2001, 07:58 PM	#17
shawrf1 Scooby Specialist Member#: 3466 Join Date: Jan 2001	E-mailed you, m3the01. [This message has been edited by shawrf1 (edited February 19, 2001).]

02-19-2001, 08:20 PM	#18
RidinLow Scooby Guru Member#: 329 Join Date: Sep 1999 Chapter/Region: Tri-State Location: NJ Vehicle: 1995 325i Arctic Gray	I have done the stand on the wrong side of the car test, if that's what you're inferring. In fact, I do research on this kind of stuff. Edit: I wouldn't argue about stuff like this if I didn't think it was important. I have better things to do with my time than to bull**** to people on the web. [This message has been edited by RidinLow (edited February 19, 2001).]

02-19-2001, 08:49 PM	#19
skibaru Scooby Newbie Member#: 727 Join Date: Jan 2000 Location: Park City, Utah, USA	There are pictures of two LHD WRXs with the HIDS installed from the Toronto auto show. Are these just for show or are they real? Shawrf1, good point about the housings, which begs the question - why didn't Subaru give us these housings that everybody seems to like better with halogen lights instead of the HID lights? It would not be a big cost difference and hardly anyone likes the looks of the US housings.

02-20-2001, 08:49 AM	#20
EricB Scooby Newbie Member#: 3550 Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Shirley, MA, USA Vehicle: 2002 WRX Wagon Blue	Frankly, standing in a field trying to discern the light pattern is really not a very scientific or valid test. What you really need to do is get a RHD drive car, with HID's, and have it drive at you. Or contact Daniel Stern at http://lighting.mbz.org/ who I'm sure knows more about lighting than any of us. I did just this, and he emphasized that lights designed for a RHD car WILL blind drivers in a LHD country. If you really are interested in the facts, you would be smart to contact him and talk about it. If you don't care about the facts, go ahead. But expect lots of cars to flash their high beams at you because you'll be blinding them. Eric

02-20-2001, 08:57 AM	#21
Adrian128 Scooby Specialist Member#: 3346 Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Sydney,Australia Vehicle: 2001 WRX Wagon Silver	Won't they have beam adjusters, or those screws that you turn to redirect the aiming of the headlights? Just wondering..cause I know the non projector lenses have them.

02-20-2001, 09:31 AM	#22
autorex Scooby Newbie Member#: 3677 Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Birmingham, AL	Even if they do have adjusters, the actual beam patterns are different between LHD and RHD.