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02-17-2005, 01:32 AM | #1 |
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Search FAQ: Read to learn about the NASIOC search feature
Search FAQ
This post is intended for personnel unfamiliar with the NASIOC search engine, search techniques, and other search functions. How do I search via NASIOC? Find the search button on the blue toolbars at the top right hand side of every page on NASIOC. Once you have selected it, you will then be re-directed to main search page. The main features generally used are as follows: Section A This is where you enter your search term(s). Traditional search engine rules apply. Examples: If you are doing a general search for say a Perrin pulley, simply type in Perrin pulley and hit Enter on your keyboard or the Search Now button. This will search all forums for both the words Perrin and pulley, though not necessarily in order. Section B This is where you search. The default is All Forums. You can select specific forums to better filter your results. You do this by holding down your control key while highlighting the specific forums you want to search with your mouse button. Using this method is a wonderful way to filter out unwanted results, but is dependent on the end user's knowledge of the NASIOC forums' content. Section C The default option selected is by Last Posting Date. This means that the most current threads that mentions your search term(s) are listed first. This is in opposition to how traditional search engines function. A traditional search engine lists results in relevancy based on keyword frequency. So by selecting Relevancy as opposed to the default Last Posting Date, your results will be similar to traditional search engine results. This doesn't guarantee that the threads shown will be relevant to your particular search, it just means that the keywords you have entered have been repeated more times in the first threads than the last threads. Section D This allows you to save your search preferences in your profile so that your default search page will reflect your personal search preferences. What about the other functions of the search page? Though they can filter responses even more, they are really advanced functions. Look through them, familiarize yourself with them, and decide if you will use them now or at a later date. What searches don't work on NASIOC? 2 letter search terms such as 3M will not function with the NASIOC search engine. It is recommended that you use Google search feature, located directly below the blue toolbars at the top right hand side of every page on NASIOC. Ensure you select NASIOC.com, enter your search term, and hit Enter on your keyboard or the Search button. Google searches use the same rules as described in the Section A portion of this thread. All Google searches of NASIOC are in relevance and are not filterable by specific forums or other criteria. Sadly, the NASIOC search engine is rather dumb and does not cater towards advanced boolean searches like traditional web search engines. To use the advanced boolean search features, visit the Google Advanced Search Page and type nasioc.com into the Domain box. To search for the words in order, use quotations around the phrase (example: "Perrin pulley"). This type of search generally shows a lower but more accurate number of results. To search for either term, use OR between the words (example: Perrin OR pulley). This type of search generally shows a higher and less accurate number of results. To search for a term that excludes keywords, use the minus sign to denote word or words to exclude (example: Perrin pulley -installation). This type of search can be useful for filtering search results. The only detractor from using the Google Advanced Search Page is you cannot filter the results via specific forums. What are some other search tips? a. You can search individual pages for words or terms via your web browser by using Control + F, which brings up the Find feature of most web browsers. b. You can search individual thread for words or terms via the search dialog located at the top right hand portion of the first of every forum thread. This feature is especially useful for finding words or terms within threads with multiple pages. How can I ensure the best search results? a. When searching for a phrase, use the quotation feature to search for the exact phrase. b. Search in the specific applicable forums. For example, if you are looking for opinions of the Perrin Pulley, search in the Car Parts Forum as that is where the best results should be located. This thought process should also give you some insight as to why Moderators constantly move threads. It's not only about organization, but for the benefit of the search engine. c. Spelling is important. Capitalization is not. d. Switch terms. For example, searching for Perrin Pulley may yield too many results, but searching for Perrin lightweight may yield better results. Spell out acronyms and use synonyms if you know them as this may change search results for the better. My search failed, what do I do know? Relax, it happens to Newbies and Gurus alike. Make a post in the appropriate forum regarding your question. Don't know where it belongs? Make a post in the Newbies & FAQs Forum and it will be answered there or moved to the appropriate forum. List as much information supporting your question as possible. Stating in your post that "my search already failed" or "the search feature and I aren't getting along today" is actually a good thing, as some people with be extra helpful to support someone that isn't as good at the search feature as they are. Why search, this is a forum about discussion isn't it? Yes, this is a discussion forum, but forums live on their search engine and loyal members. Posting the same question over and over dilutes the search engine and makes happy to help members fade away. If you have searched, know your answer, but want to make 1000***37; sure, there is nothing wrong with posing an obvious question. It would be courteous and gain more results if you were to state your search efforts and apprehension in your post though.
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02-17-2005, 01:49 AM | #2 |
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Very nice! This is a definite Sticky!
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02-17-2005, 06:46 AM | #3 |
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VERY Cool....Thanks...
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02-17-2005, 06:48 AM | #4 |
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Thank you Unabomber, without your 12 step program I never would have learned how to use the search button!
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02-17-2005, 07:05 AM | #5 |
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Unabomber, thank you from the bottom of my PC =
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02-17-2005, 07:51 AM | #6 |
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oh, finally!!!!! man i hope people see this and read it because it seems there are a lot that aren't taking the time to read the faqs or the manifestos. thanks again man for your hard work.
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02-17-2005, 07:54 AM | #7 |
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Great FAQ! Last edited by Calamity Jesus; 02-17-2005 at 12:25 PM. Reason: Thanks Unabomber! My work here is done. |
02-17-2005, 08:08 AM | #8 |
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Sticky this somofabinch...
well done... Iggy |
02-17-2005, 09:09 AM | #9 |
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Wow, I've been using the search feature for a while, and I still learned something from this. Very nice post
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02-17-2005, 09:14 AM | #10 |
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Been bored Ron?
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02-17-2005, 09:19 AM | #11 |
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[quote=mbiker97]Been bored Ron?
no...the Search button is used...but not everybody knows "WHAT" to type in 'when' they search...ie: what terms to use to get the results they were looking for... |
02-17-2005, 09:29 AM | #12 | |
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02-17-2005, 10:11 AM | #13 | |
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My thanks to Beaverboy for the graphic and the highlight of that search feature. I consider myself a great searcher and didn't even know about that feature. |
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02-17-2005, 12:04 PM | #14 |
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you know Ron, if you'd done this one first, you might not have had to make the other 500 FAQ's...
as usual, heluva job |
02-17-2005, 12:53 PM | #15 |
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I'd be a Scooby Guru by now if I asked questions instead of constantly searching.
I'd guess I run about five NASIOC searches a day. I used to belong to a messageboard where the search function didn't even work. If that was the case here, I'd surely be a lost puppy. |
02-17-2005, 01:18 PM | #16 |
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A list of functional boolean objects would be nice.
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02-17-2005, 03:00 PM | #17 |
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Can it be mandatory to read this thread as part of the registration process?
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02-17-2005, 03:00 PM | #18 |
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They are listed already via the normal, OR and, - explanations in the main post. Though not referred to as boolean, they are the search engines interpretation of boolean.
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10-03-2006, 11:17 PM | #19 | |
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Here goes my OT response from another thread... I suppose this would be the proper place to post such a quandry eh?
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Unibomber,
I can't send you PMs, so I'll hope this gets added to your FAQ. I know I like to search on multiple parameters, as such, when you just search on the forum for 2008 downpipe, you get not only results that contain both 2008 and downpipe, but you get results that contain 2008 or downpipe. I did some searching and found the wildcards for use with Vbulletin, and they make my searching much more simplified and easier. Here are all of the operators, you can enter these with your text in SECTION A (no operator) This is without anything added to your search criteria. all words are returned. + A leading plus sign indicates that this word must be present in each row that is returned. - A leading minus sign indicates that this word must not be present in any of the rows that are returned. > < These two operators are used to change a word's contribution to the relevance value that is assigned to a row. The > operator increases the contribution and the < operator decreases it. See the example below. ( ) Parentheses are used to group words into subexpressions. Parenthesized groups can be nested. ~ A leading tilde acts as a negation operator, causing the word's contribution to the row's relevance to be negative. This is useful for marking "noise" words. A row containing such a word is rated lower than others, but is not excluded altogether, as it would be with the - operator. * The asterisk serves as the truncation operator. Unlike the other operators, it should be appended to the word to be affected. " A phrase that is enclosed within double quote ("") characters matches only rows that contain the phrase literally, as it was typed. The following examples demonstrate some search strings that use boolean full-text operators: 2008 Downpipe Find posts that contain at least one of the two words. +2008 +downpipe Find posts that contain both words. +2008 downpipe Find posts that contain the word "2008", but rank posts higher if they also contain "downpipe". +2008 -downpipe Find posts that contain the word "2008" but not "downpipe". +2008 +(>downpipe <TBE) Find posts that contain the words "2008" and "downpipe", or "2008" and "TBE" (in any order), but rank "2008" and "downpipe" higher than "2008" and "TBE". anti* Find posts that contain words such as "antipasta", "antibellum", or "antidisestablishmentarianism". "2008 Downpipe" Find posts that contain the exact phrase "2008 downpipe". If a post has "2008 sale downpipe" it will skip that post, but if it says "2008 downpipe sale" it will be included, because the exact phrase, "2008 downpipe" is included. Anyway, these really help me in narrowing my search criteria so that I get the exact results I want, so I will know at a glance whether what I am specifically looking for has been posted or whether it requires me to do a search, because I am a noob. happy searching! |
11-11-2008, 02:42 PM | #21 |
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wow. after 1 year on the forums, i just found out that i was using the wrong search button..
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11-11-2008, 02:53 PM | #22 |
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If there was ever a "much-needed thread," this is it.
Pull another 24-hour duty did ya', Ron? I saw the tranny buyer's guide you're working on. You've been busy. |
11-11-2008, 03:00 PM | #23 |
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i vote sticky
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11-11-2008, 06:27 PM | #24 |
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good work man!
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11-11-2008, 11:19 PM | #25 |
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Seems like nobody reads the sticky's anyway. This is why we still have all these retarded threads that have been posted 100x.
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