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Old 08-01-2009, 09:55 PM   #1
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well today started out as my dad was planning on coming to my house and helping me replace some rotted trim around my garage door.

we got some of it torn apart and my dad forgot some stuff at his house so he ran home. while he was gone i had got to work trimming back this huge (50ft tall by 100ft long) rodie bush that had grown unchecked by the previous renters for years. so i was down there cutting back the 6inch diameter limbs with my Stihl 24inch chain saw. the 12inch one was acting up so i just used my big saw. well on the last limb i cut i used my left hand to hold the idling saw while i pulled on the limb to break it free so it would lye out of the way.

when i grabbed the limb with my right hand i slipped and felt something bite my left leg. needless to say the saw swung around and got my leg. luckily it just tore a whole in my pants and nicked my thigh. so i called it quits after that with the saw.

after that took most of the day after removing the old rotted trim, running to the hardware store to get the new 2X6's and lunch.

when we where done with the trim we moved to the bathroom that had a few soft spots in the floor. so i tore up the peel and stick tiles to find the base floor was wet. we tracked down that the toilet and tub/shower where leaking and rotted out the floor.

as i was tearing up the last of the tiles i bumped the baseboard heater which then fell off the wall exposing black mold.

wow . . . so i grabbed my kershaw knife and cut it out. then more and more noticing that every part i cut out had mold covering the back side of the drywall.

so basically what started out as a few easy repairs has now turned into a couple grand and the next few days for my dad and i remodeling the bathroom.

oh well it was planned for some time in the future but i guess the deadline on it just got bumped sooner. i think the mold is also the blame of why my brother and his wife as well as my wife and my self have been ill for the past 6 months off and on.
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Old 08-01-2009, 10:02 PM   #2
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mold is dangerous...


if i was closer i would deff come help out, i just finished up a kitchen remodle. new floors, wall, counter tops, the works...
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Old 08-01-2009, 10:14 PM   #3
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ya i gotta rip out the vanity as well as the toilet tomorrow morning so we can then tear out the floor and redo it all.
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Old 08-01-2009, 10:29 PM   #4
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ouch, that sucks. Finding problems as you tear apart houses ftmfl
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Old 08-01-2009, 10:34 PM   #5
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ya here are pictures from today, more tomorrow.





^warped floor

^the un green area was what i cut all back and reclaimed.

^where the chain saw bit me, really im not that pail in person i really need to go tanning
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Old 08-01-2009, 10:51 PM   #6
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hi casper, that is a nip... not a bite
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Old 08-01-2009, 11:07 PM   #7
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Mold is a pita. Make sure you tear everything down that could have it. It couses a ton of health issues.... (I used to live in a house infested with mold, all my headaches and etc went away when we moved...).

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Old 08-01-2009, 11:09 PM   #8
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i really need to go tanning
or you could get outside like a real man and use the sun for what little time we have it.

on another note, sorry to read about all the stuff you've been discovering that needs to be fixed post haste. definitely get all that mold taken care of though, mold is some dangerous stuff. i'd offer to help but i'm not that close and my military schedule makes it to where i'm never home as it is anyway.
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Old 08-01-2009, 11:35 PM   #9
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I've got a friend with some serious long term health issues from living in a mold infested apartment, that's great that you found it and are getting it dealt with!
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Old 08-02-2009, 12:05 AM   #10
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thanks everyone, ya im gonna gut all the walls to be sure then wash everything with water and bleach then install new drywall. thats after we do the floor tomorrow.

my parents own the house and my brother and i rent from them. my grandfather built the house a long time a ago and was never able to see how much stuff i fixed since i moved in before he passed. im only 23 so its a lot of learning right now which is a hell of a lot of fun with my dad showing me.

and the whole tanning thing, its funny i work in a wrecking yard for scoobies so i am out side all day, the rest of me is tan, but i don't tan in the buck so some area's are a little pale lol
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Old 08-02-2009, 12:26 AM   #11
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a scoobie wrecking yard huh? where at? there are times when i've been searching for stuff for my 06' STi and don't wanna pay full price for new pieces but can't find it and end up doing just that. mind sharing?
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Old 08-02-2009, 12:44 AM   #12
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thanks everyone, ya im gonna gut all the walls to be sure then wash everything with water and bleach then install new drywall. thats after we do the floor tomorrow.

my parents own the house and my brother and i rent from them. my grandfather built the house a long time a ago and was never able to see how much stuff i fixed since i moved in before he passed. im only 23 so its a lot of learning right now which is a hell of a lot of fun with my dad showing me.

and the whole tanning thing, its funny i work in a wrecking yard for scoobies so i am out side all day, the rest of me is tan, but i don't tan in the buck so some area's are a little pale lol
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Old 08-02-2009, 01:27 AM   #13
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well today started out as my dad was planning on coming to my house and helping me replace some rotted trim around my garage door.

we got some of it torn apart and my dad forgot some stuff at his house so he ran home. while he was gone i had got to work trimming back this huge (50ft tall by 100ft long) rodie bush that had grown unchecked by the previous renters for years. so i was down there cutting back the 6inch diameter limbs with my Stihl 24inch chain saw. the 12inch one was acting up so i just used my big saw. well on the last limb i cut i used my left hand to hold the idling saw while i pulled on the limb to break it free so it would lye out of the way.

when i grabbed the limb with my right hand i slipped and felt something bite my left leg. needless to say the saw swung around and got my leg. luckily it just tore a whole in my pants and nicked my thigh. so i called it quits after that with the saw.

after that took most of the day after removing the old rotted trim, running to the hardware store to get the new 2X6's and lunch.

when we where done with the trim we moved to the bathroom that had a few soft spots in the floor. so i tore up the peel and stick tiles to find the base floor was wet. we tracked down that the toilet and tub/shower where leaking and rotted out the floor.

as i was tearing up the last of the tiles i bumped the baseboard heater which then fell off the wall exposing black mold.

wow . . . so i grabbed my kershaw knife and cut it out. then more and more noticing that every part i cut out had mold covering the back side of the drywall.

so basically what started out as a few easy repairs has now turned into a couple grand and the next few days for my dad and i remodeling the bathroom.

oh well it was planned for some time in the future but i guess the deadline on it just got bumped sooner. i think the mold is also the blame of why my brother and his wife as well as my wife and my self have been ill for the past 6 months off and on.

LMAO, more black mold hysteria. Take a look at this article from the CDC, it's pretty educational about mold in general, and Stachybotrys chartarum specifically. GL with the remodel.


http://www.cdc.gov/mold/stachy.htm#Q4
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Old 08-02-2009, 01:30 AM   #14
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I've got a friend with some serious long term health issues from living in a mold infested apartment, that's great that you found it and are getting it dealt with!

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http://www.cdc.gov/mold/stachy.htm#Q4

Here's the summary at the end of the CDC's article on mold:

Summary
In summary, Stachybotrys chartarum (Stachybotrys atra) and other molds may cause health symptoms that are nonspecific. At present there is no test that proves an association between Stachybotrys chartarum (Stachybotrys atra) and particular health symptoms. Individuals with persistent symptoms should see their physician. However, if Stachybotrys chartarum (Stachybotrys atra) or other molds are found in a building, prudent practice recommends that they be removed.

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thanks everyone, ya im gonna gut all the walls to be sure then wash everything with water and bleach then install new drywall. thats after we do the floor tomorrow.

my parents own the house and my brother and i rent from them. my grandfather built the house a long time a ago and was never able to see how much stuff i fixed since i moved in before he passed. im only 23 so its a lot of learning right now which is a hell of a lot of fun with my dad showing me.

and the whole tanning thing, its funny i work in a wrecking yard for scoobies so i am out side all day, the rest of me is tan, but i don't tan in the buck so some area's are a little pale lol
Lemme know if you need any help, I've hung, taped, and textured drywall for years.
Also,

Bleach: Bleach is generally not recommended as a fungicide (mold killer). It works by dousing the mold in toxic levels of a chemical. The problem is twofold: not only are humans just as susceptible to bleach's damaging properties, but the bleach is generally a water-based solution. In the long run, this often means that water penetrates the surface, giving moisture to the roots of the mold, which happily begins to grow again. In the case of small patches of mold, ordinary household detergent will suffice. It is important to make sure that the area dries quickly (ideally within 24-48 hours) so that any small bits (too small to see with the naked eye) of mold left over don't get the chance to start growing again.

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Good that you caught it; it's not that uncommon for bathrooms to go bad unseen. Often lots of surprises when you rip into a bathroom.

I would use all treated lumber for any replacements and wonderboard or at least greenboard to re-rock. Also, make sure the bathroom has a good fan system!
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Old 08-02-2009, 04:46 PM   #17
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ya the exhaust fan had been broken for a few years and there was no heat in the house for months so there was A LOT of moisture everywhere.

today we got the rest of the floor torn out, the vanity and the toilet where removed. everything was nailed and then screwed down. thanks grandpa lol.

i have a bunch more pictures that i have to upload at the moment that ill get up later.

thanks for the tips on the mold.




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Old 08-02-2009, 05:17 PM   #18
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There is also a great product called 'Killz' available at Lowe's or the Depot. It is a primer/sealer that is designed to combat mold. Clean the area first, then paint on a coat of this stuff. It should seal and encapsulate any remaining mold and kill it.

+1 on the green board.

You might want to seriously look at the plumbing while you are in there. Make sure all the joints are properly soldered and that you don't see any obvious signs of leakage.

What year was the house built?

What are you doing with the tub/shower? You can go the cheap route and install a fiberglass unit, or do Tile...
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Old 08-02-2009, 05:50 PM   #19
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ya everything we are replacing is pressure treated or whatever its called, i have yet to get to the store to get it all. the floor needs to dry out for about 3 or 4 days because as we pulled up the press board it had standing water between layers and such. also we need to pick up some tar paper to lye down under everything.

once we get the wall patched the whole bathroom will get repainted with killz, ive used it for years now so i know it will work.

the tub/shower will stay, i/my dad don't have that kind of money right now to put into it all. especially since we are already gonna replace the toilet and i might build a new vanity.
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