First I was . . . then I serious'd

[Fuzz541]

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c/n: Couple has to give up baby boy after fertility clinic screwed up and implanted somebody else's IVF embryos.



A) She looks 10 years younger pregnant.
B) Meh
C)
D) They have three kids already. Why teh IVF? Just drive to Arkansas and steal a Duggar.



Pregnant mother forced to give up IVF baby after doctors gave her wrong embryo

By David Gardner
Last updated at 1:29 AM on 22nd September 2009

Heartbreak: Carolyn Savage will have to give birth to the boy and then hand him over to his biological parents
A pregnant mother will have to give birth to another couple's baby after a blunder by an IVF clinic.

Carolyn Savage had the wrong embryos implanted into her and will have to give the boy up to his biological parents as soon as he is born.

Yesterday Mrs Savage, 40, who was expecting her fourth child with husband Sean, said: 'The hardest part is going to be the delivery. I remember communicating with the [unnamed] mother of this child as to what I was envisioning and hoping for.

'I said, "We want a moment to say hello, and goodbye".

'In the beginning we were really scared of that moment and it is still scary. We are trying to mentally frame it in a positive way and look at it as a gift for this family that eight months ago we didn't know.

'I think that is the only way we'll get through it.'

Mrs Savage, from Ohio in the U.S., is 35 weeks pregnant and expecting in a fortnight. The couple already have two sons aged 15 and 12 and a daughter, born with the help of IVF, who is 18 months.


Mrs Savage with her husband Sean, and their two sons, and their baby toddler. She will have to give up the baby, due in two weeks
Mrs Savage learned she was pregnant with a boy in February after deciding to try again with the last of her frozen embryos.

They learned about the mix-up after Mr Savage received a phone call at work and returned home to tell his wife.

She said: 'I was upstairs in my bedroom and he came to the door and said "I have some really bad news".


The couple are now hoping to give their remaining embryos to another carrier
'You're pregnant,' he told her. 'But they transferred the wrong embryo.'

Mrs Savage said she just kept repeating: 'You're joking.'

But when she looked at her husband 'he was as white as a sheet'.

The couple decided not to have an abortion because of their religious beliefs, and have met the other couple and arranged a handover.

Mrs Savage added: 'We will wonder about this child every day for the rest of our lives.

'We have hopes for him, but they are his parents and we'll defer to their judgment on when and if they ever tell him what happened and any contact that's afforded us.

'We just want to know he's healthy and happy.'

Lawyers for the Savages are working to ensure that the fertility clinic that made the error 'will accept full responsibility for the consequences of their misconduct'.

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[Protege Menace]

Woulda been funnier if it was a black couple's embryo, and they never told the white family till after the birth.

[MotorolaBizz]

hahahahahahaha

[Calebz]

At least they'll be rich.

[CosmoTheCat]

abortion is against their religious beliefs, I'm guessing contraception is too.. but IVF isn't? IVF isn't playing god, creating that which could not be created? How does their religion look on stem cell research, or cloning?

[Speck102]

Originally Posted by HoratioCaine

abortion is against their religious beliefs, I'm guessing contraception is too.. but IVF isn't? IVF isn't playing god, creating that which could not be created? How does their religion look on stem cell research, or cloning?

So then sewing up a wound should be against their beliefs since it cannot happen naturally either? How about using showers, or electricity? It's thinking like yours that is keeping the Amish in the dark ages. Killing a baby is different than getting help with having a child.

[DMP RUN]

Originally Posted by Speck102

So then sewing up a wound should be against their beliefs since it cannot happen naturally either? How about using showers, or electricity? It's thinking like yours that is keeping the Amish in the dark ages. Killing a baby is different than getting help with having a child.

Abortion isn't killing a baby though

[aerostar]

Originally Posted by DMP RUN

Abortion isn't killing a baby though

It is to a lot of people.

[KidCorporate]

Originally Posted by Speck102

So then sewing up a wound should be against their beliefs since it cannot happen naturally either? How about using showers, or electricity? It's thinking like yours that is keeping the Amish in the dark ages. Killing a baby is different than getting help with having a child.

Ain't no turkey baster gon' piss off jeezus.

[Fuzz541]

Originally Posted by DMP RUN

Abortion isn't killing a baby though

When does it become a baby? When it's born at 9 months? What is a preemie?

Just askin.'

[DMP RUN]

Originally Posted by Fuzz541

When does it become a baby? When it's born at 9 months? What is a preemie?

Just askin.'

After it becomes a fetus in my view.

I have absolutely nothing against abortions if they are done at the right time and for the right reason

[CosmoTheCat]

Originally Posted by Fuzz541

When does it become a baby? When it's born at 9 months? What is a preemie?

Just askin.'

IMHO it's a baby when it's born, whenever that is. If it can survive on its own, it's a person. Until then, it's a jumble of cells.

Do I think we should do whatever reasonable to try and save a premature baby? If it's otherwise good to go, yeah, sure, why not. If it's AFU, no.

And yes, my gf's 12 year old was 3 months premature and spent a lot of time getting worked on before going home, and no it hasn't really changed my opinion.

But that's not really the point here, they're interfering with the work of the all mighty jeebus, by going the turkey baster route, and it offends my lack of religion.

[chicken n waffles]

let's not get into another ****ing abortion debate

and instead let's just laugh

[Slack]

Stay self-important, Horatio!

[CosmoTheCat]

Originally Posted by Slack

Stay self-important, Horatio!

Ok, I will?

[NightHawk]

if you can't have a kid without intervening, why not adopt?


there are tons of kids who are already born wishing that they had a normal family... it may not be "yours", but I sure as hell would feel a lot better than having a doc play god with my baby batter

[drrice]

Originally Posted by NightHawk

if you can't have a kid without intervening, why not adopt?


there are tons of kids who are already born wishing that they had a normal family... it may not be "yours", but I sure as hell would feel a lot better than having a doc play god with my baby batter

apparently they are very religious and take to the term "be fertile and fruitful" or whatever.

Plus people that jacked out of their minds are pretty narcissistic and just want to see spitting images of themselves.

I think there is something wrong with someone who adamantly wants to have their own biological children and will jump through many hoops just to have their own kin opposed to adopting one of the many unwanted children in the world. Makes me sick.

[chicken n waffles]

Originally Posted by drrice

apparently they are very religious and take to the term "be fertile and fruitful" or whatever.

Plus people that jacked out of their minds are pretty narcissistic and just want to see spitting images of themselves.

I think there is something wrong with someone who adamantly wants to have their own biological children and will jump through many hoops just to have their own kin opposed to adopting one of the many unwanted children in the world. Makes me sick.

some people are incapable of unconditional love if the kid isn't theirs

(and that's ****ing pathetic)

[NightHawk]

Originally Posted by drrice

apparently they are very religious

and it all makes sense now.



religion is a cult that I do not want to be apart of

[chapstien]

Baby lateral?

[Obnoxio]

Originally Posted by NightHawk

if you can't have a kid without intervening, why not adopt?


there are tons of kids who are already born wishing that they had a normal family... it may not be "yours", but I sure as hell would feel a lot better than having a doc play god with my baby batter

We tried to go the adoption route. Did the classes, the works. It all boiled down to money. Adoption is a big business, and we got a bad feeling about it after a while.

Originally Posted by drrice

I think there is something wrong with someone who adamantly wants to have their own biological children and will jump through many hoops just to have their own kin opposed to adopting one of the many unwanted children in the world. Makes me sick.

I disagree. My wife and I wanted to have a baby. I couldnt provide the stuff to do it because I had a vasectomy 12 years ago and was in a bad MC wreck. We did IVF with donor sperm and it worked. We have a very nice 7 month old baby girl, and I wouldnt change a thing. It was a long, hard, frustrating road to get where we are.

I dont fault that family at all for wanting to use their own frozen embryo at all. There are hundreds of reasons she may have had her eggs frozen, whatever those were they were her choice and she did it in good faith of her doctor. I think its a shame the clinic screwed up and this family is going to suffer emotionally because of it. She very well could have aborted that fetus and told the other woman to get stuffed, but she isnt. That other family should be kissing the ground she walks on for carrying their child and making sure it comes into the world safe and healthy.

You should all walk a mile in another mans moccasins before you pass judgement.

[just_an_impreza]

The baby is going to come out black and it's going to be found out that she was sleeping with the UPS man and his little swimmers were stronger than her pansy ass husband's.

[CrashTestRacer]

Originally Posted by NightHawk

if you can't have a kid without intervening, why not adopt?


there are tons of kids who are already born wishing that they had a normal family... it may not be "yours", but I sure as hell would feel a lot better than having a doc play god with my baby batter

Originally Posted by drrice

apparently they are very religious and take to the term "be fertile and fruitful" or whatever.

Plus people that jacked out of their minds are pretty narcissistic and just want to see spitting images of themselves.

I think there is something wrong with someone who adamantly wants to have their own biological children and will jump through many hoops just to have their own kin opposed to adopting one of the many unwanted children in the world. Makes me sick.

Originally Posted by chicken n waffles

some people are incapable of unconditional love if the kid isn't theirs

(and that's ****ing pathetic)

So the wife and I may not be doing IVF, but we have been getting help with trying to conceive, spending a lot of time at the fertility clinic. It's a frustrating thing and in the end if we can't have our own we will seriously consider adoption.

So, to those above - since you obviously would rather judge something you know nothing about - should I apologize to you now for the wife and I wanting our own kids?

Sucks for that couple - what a nightmare - and it could happen to us - we ask the clinic every time we go there - "now you're sure this is our stuff, right!?"

It's all funny in the OT - but in real life - trust me - it's frustrating stuff.

[Kellan]

In vitrowned

[Obnoxio]

Originally Posted by CrashTestRacer

So the wife and I may not be doing IVF, but we have been getting help with trying to conceive, spending a lot of time at the fertility clinic. It's a frustrating thing and in the end if we can't have our own we will seriously consider adoption.

So, to those above - since you obviously would rather judge something you know nothing about - should I apologize to you now for the wife and I wanting our own kids?

Sucks for that couple - what a nightmare - and it could happen to us - we ask the clinic every time we go there - "now you're sure this is our stuff, right!?"

It's all funny in the OT - but in real life - trust me - it's frustrating stuff.

I empathize with you totally. Stay the course and things will work out.

Sometimes, the OT can strike a nerve.