Going FP GREEN!

NOT_2_SLOW · 11-20-2009, 01:54 PM

So im thinking about getting a FP green for my 06 TR, an wanted to check that ive got all my ducks standing in a row so it gose smoothly when the hammer falls

. My current setup is a stock 06 wrx tr ej25, its got a sti tmic, vf39, short ram intake, and a perrine dp/hks hi power exaust "thinking about going maddad wisper twintip tired of waking the neiborhood", and a pro tune.. im making 267whp.

from my searching, im going to need to upgrade my fuel pump, injecters, fuel regulater, rails, and a new tune.. is their anything ive left out that is needed or anything ive mentioned that is not needed?

Also how big of an injecter should i get? Would like to make in the ballpark of 350-400whp I was thinking 850cc.

Dose anyone have a meth kit on their DD?

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blkscooby · 11-20-2009, 01:57 PM

You should be good with 850's and you don't need fuel rails or regulator. Stock is fine. Walbro pump and possibly a new turbo inlet depending on whether the green is 2.4" (stock size) or 3" inlet.

Many people here have meth on their DD.

Scooby-King · 11-20-2009, 02:05 PM

You will need a bigger Intercooler.
Upgraded gauges is a plus too. . things like accurate oil pressure/temp A/F Boost

Allot of poeple run meth on their DD but do you really want to be buying butt loads of washer fluid and refilling it on a regular basis lol

idipskoalmint · 11-20-2009, 02:09 PM

Engine internals

blkscooby · 11-20-2009, 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scooby-King

You will need a bigger Intercooler.
Upgraded gauges is a plus too. . things like accurate oil pressure/temp A/F Boost

Allot of poeple run meth on their DD but do you really want to be buying butt loads of washer fluid and refilling it on a regular basis lol

Yes, I forgot the IC. Even an 08 STI TMIC would be a good upgrade or the SSAC or any front mount.

NOT_2_SLOW · 11-20-2009, 02:15 PM

would a stock STI tmic work ok? or would i need somthing alittle bigger? Would rather stay tmic an deal with the heat soak rather than go fmic an have turbo lag.

Good looks on the guages forgot about those.. ive got a boost guage but probily should get a/f, egt, and oil.. Although i like how clean the dash looks without the clutter of guages

NOT_2_SLOW · 11-20-2009, 02:18 PM

dose it need to be off an 08 i think ive got one off an 06

NOT_2_SLOW · 11-20-2009, 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blkscooby

You should be good with 850's and you don't need fuel rails or regulator. Stock is fine. Walbro pump and possibly a new turbo inlet depending on whether the green is 2.4" (stock size) or 3" inlet.

from my understanding this is an opption you can choose either the 2.4 or 3" ... I was thinking the 3"

r8r4life · 11-20-2009, 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by idipskoalmint

Engine internals

Not with a good tune.

lowrider89 · 11-20-2009, 02:30 PM

things you need :

injectors - 850's will work
fuel pump - walbro 255
intercooler - anything bigger than stock
Spark plugs - One step colder

I HOPE you have suspension to prevent all the weight transfer between shifts with that much power

fastwrx006 · 11-20-2009, 02:37 PM

With a turbo this size I'd go with an FMIC. don't worry about lag it's overrated.
How do you plan to control boost?

xrocket21 · 11-20-2009, 02:49 PM

I have DD'ed with a meth kit for about 3 years and 60k miles now

scoobywagon06 · 11-20-2009, 02:54 PM

i wanna do this same setup of my sti.... i plan on doing a 2.4 not 3" inles because my car came with a new perrin inlet.. i was gunna go with 850cc and a perrin fmic.. then have turbotek tune her

Cards2323 · 11-20-2009, 03:09 PM

I would say an inlet is a must even if he gets the 2.4, the stock inlet will hold you back a good amount on a Green.

I would say 850's, and inlet, pump, a GOOD top mount since you dont want a fmic...

While theres alot of other things that can net you some good power, I would say those are the bare necessities

RedRex26 · 11-20-2009, 03:17 PM

built tranny and built motor cause neither are going to last long with a green

Dana Daray · 11-20-2009, 03:21 PM

I will be the first to throw in the broken record comment, surprising on how many people don't realize this.....you will need a built tranny or a 6 speed to handle that amount of power/torque. It won't last very long if you bang on it...Believe me, I've been there.

Scooby-King · 11-20-2009, 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dana Daray

I will be the first to throw in the broken record comment, surprising on how many people don't realize this.....you will need a built tranny or a 6 speed to handle that amount of power/torque. It won't last very long if you bang on it...Believe me, I've been there.

Mostly due to the fact that you can't Shift.
As long as you dront rag through the gears your trans will be fine.

My buddy is running 400WHP on his 2002 RS-T with stock Trans no issues.

You will want to look into upgraded clutch's though.

350WHP isnt cheap.

r8r4life · 11-20-2009, 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedRex26

built tranny and built motor cause neither are going to last long with a green

It all depends for the motor.I ran a green for thirty thousand miles on my 05 sti with about ten track days before the turbo **** the bed.I am now running a rotated 30r for another twenty thousand miles and atleast ten more track days and my motor is fine.

If you get the right tune and not run it to get every ounce of power out of it and leave a little on the table it will last longer.

Scooby-King · 11-20-2009, 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedRex26

built tranny and built motor cause neither are going to last long with a green

Quote:

Originally Posted by r8r4life

It all depends for the motor.I ran a green for thirty thousand miles on my 05 sti with about ten track days before the turbo **** the bed.I am now running a rotated 30r for another twenty thousand miles and atleast ten more track days and my motor is fine.

If you get the right tune and not run it to get every ounce of power out of it and leave a little on the table it will last longer.

Keep in mind these are WRX internals, Not STi

Cards2323 · 11-20-2009, 03:33 PM

You dont HAVE to build your tranny right away,

Ive gone sub 12's a few times already this season in a stock 03 tranny....

Its not going to explode the second you floor it, but just be prepared that at this much power it CAN happen, Stick to a sonfter clutch like a stage 1 exedy, nothing to harsh and dont slam gears like you stole it and you may be ok.

blackcompany · 11-20-2009, 03:42 PM

P&L motorsports drag car went 9.5ish on a stock trans...well...sti trans.

lowrider89 · 11-20-2009, 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackcompany

P&L motorsports drag car went 9.5ish on a stock trans...well...sti trans.

STI tranny is a WHOLE different story.... i know 20+ cars running over 550 WHP on STI tranny...

NOT_2_SLOW · 11-20-2009, 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cards2323

I would say an inlet is a must even if he gets the 2.4, the stock inlet will hold you back a good amount on a Green.

I would say 850's, and inlet, pump, a GOOD top mount since you dont want a fmic... I would go fmic but ive read that it wasnt a necessity.

While theres alot of other things that can net you some good power, I would say those are the bare necessities

whats the benifit of going fmic

RedRex26 · 11-20-2009, 03:59 PM

the benefit of a fmic over a tmic in my opinion is a smoother more linear powerband. You will also make a alot more power over a tmic due to one colder air and two colder air lol plus the colder the air going into your motor the longer its going to last. and trust me on your 2.5liter you'll be far from the lag experienced on a 2 liter motor

NOT_2_SLOW · 11-20-2009, 04:00 PM

i was thinking about the exedy twin disk.. my clutch acutally just blew out yesterday..

also someone asked about boost control.. i read manual is a better chose because their isnt an electrical relay, so id put a mbc somewher in the cabin so it canbe adjusted from the drivers seat

Ive got some susspention done ive gotfront and rear swaybars control arms and endlinks

11-20-2009, 01:54 PM	#1
NOT_2_SLOW Scooby Newbie Member#: 208817 Join Date: Apr 2009 Chapter/Region: Tri-State Vehicle: 2006 WRX TR CGM	Going FP GREEN! So im thinking about getting a FP green for my 06 TR, an wanted to check that ive got all my ducks standing in a row so it gose smoothly when the hammer falls . My current setup is a stock 06 wrx tr ej25, its got a sti tmic, vf39, short ram intake, and a perrine dp/hks hi power exaust "thinking about going maddad wisper twintip tired of waking the neiborhood", and a pro tune.. im making 267whp. from my searching, im going to need to upgrade my fuel pump, injecters, fuel regulater, rails, and a new tune.. is their anything ive left out that is needed or anything ive mentioned that is not needed? Also how big of an injecter should i get? Would like to make in the ballpark of 350-400whp I was thinking 850cc. Dose anyone have a meth kit on their DD? * Registered users of the site do not see these ads. Last edited by NOT_2_SLOW; 11-20-2009 at 07:55 PM.

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11-20-2009, 01:57 PM	#2
blkscooby Scooby Specialist Member#: 44422 Join Date: Sep 2003 Chapter/Region: SWIC Location: In ur ECU Vehicle: 08 STI FP 20g 91-348/338; E85-more	You should be good with 850's and you don't need fuel rails or regulator. Stock is fine. Walbro pump and possibly a new turbo inlet depending on whether the green is 2.4" (stock size) or 3" inlet. Many people here have meth on their DD.

11-20-2009, 02:05 PM	#3
Scooby-King Scooby Specialist Member#: 180499 Join Date: May 2008 Chapter/Region: VIC Location: Fort Langley B.C Vehicle: 2007 STi All Go No show	You will need a bigger Intercooler. Upgraded gauges is a plus too. . things like accurate oil pressure/temp A/F Boost Allot of poeple run meth on their DD but do you really want to be buying butt loads of washer fluid and refilling it on a regular basis lol

11-20-2009, 02:09 PM	#4
idipskoalmint Scooby Newbie Member#: 169716 Join Date: Jan 2008 Chapter/Region: Tri-State Location: Albany, NY Vehicle: 2005 WRX STi PSM	Engine internals

11-20-2009, 02:15 PM	#6
NOT_2_SLOW Scooby Newbie Member#: 208817 Join Date: Apr 2009 Chapter/Region: Tri-State Vehicle: 2006 WRX TR CGM	would a stock STI tmic work ok? or would i need somthing alittle bigger? Would rather stay tmic an deal with the heat soak rather than go fmic an have turbo lag. Good looks on the guages forgot about those.. ive got a boost guage but probily should get a/f, egt, and oil.. Although i like how clean the dash looks without the clutter of guages

11-20-2009, 02:18 PM	#7
NOT_2_SLOW Scooby Newbie Member#: 208817 Join Date: Apr 2009 Chapter/Region: Tri-State Vehicle: 2006 WRX TR CGM	dose it need to be off an 08 i think ive got one off an 06

11-20-2009, 02:30 PM	#10
lowrider89 Scooby Specialist Member#: 143022 Join Date: Mar 2007 Chapter/Region: RMIC Location: ft collins, CO Vehicle: 04 280 WHP @5,000 feet	things you need : injectors - 850's will work fuel pump - walbro 255 intercooler - anything bigger than stock Spark plugs - One step colder I HOPE you have suspension to prevent all the weight transfer between shifts with that much power

11-20-2009, 02:37 PM	#11
fastwrx006 Scooby Specialist Member#: 38016 Join Date: Jun 2003 Chapter/Region: SCIC Location: $10/20 No-Limit hold 'em table Vehicle: 06 GG EVO IX FPGreen 73 HTA soon!!!!!!	With a turbo this size I'd go with an FMIC. don't worry about lag it's overrated. How do you plan to control boost?

11-20-2009, 02:49 PM	#12
xrocket21 Scooby Specialist Member#: 81497 Join Date: Feb 2005 Chapter/Region: NESIC Location: Mass Vehicle: 2005 STI OBP	I have DD'ed with a meth kit for about 3 years and 60k miles now

11-20-2009, 02:54 PM	#13
scoobywagon06 Scooby Newbie Member#: 216459 Join Date: Jul 2009 Chapter/Region: NESIC Location: MA Vehicle: 06 wrx sti white	i wanna do this same setup of my sti.... i plan on doing a 2.4 not 3" inles because my car came with a new perrin inlet.. i was gunna go with 850cc and a perrin fmic.. then have turbotek tune her

11-20-2009, 03:09 PM	#14
Cards2323 Scooby Specialist Member#: 142868 Join Date: Mar 2007 Chapter/Region: Tri-State Location: Queens NY Vehicle: 03 TZ518Z EWG Meth Inj.362whp / 360tq	I would say an inlet is a must even if he gets the 2.4, the stock inlet will hold you back a good amount on a Green. I would say 850's, and inlet, pump, a GOOD top mount since you dont want a fmic... While theres alot of other things that can net you some good power, I would say those are the bare necessities

11-20-2009, 03:17 PM	#15
RedRex26 Scooby Specialist Member#: 133418 Join Date: Nov 2006 Chapter/Region: Tri-State Location: middle of no where Vehicle: 2006 18g'd WRX TR SRR 329whp323wtq @18psi	built tranny and built motor cause neither are going to last long with a green

11-20-2009, 03:21 PM	#16
Dana Daray Scooby Specialist Member#: 136912 Join Date: Jan 2007 Chapter/Region: SCIC Location: Vista, Ca Vehicle: 2006 Sti OBP	I will be the first to throw in the broken record comment, surprising on how many people don't realize this.....you will need a built tranny or a 6 speed to handle that amount of power/torque. It won't last very long if you bang on it...Believe me, I've been there.

11-20-2009, 03:33 PM	#20
Cards2323 Scooby Specialist Member#: 142868 Join Date: Mar 2007 Chapter/Region: Tri-State Location: Queens NY Vehicle: 03 TZ518Z EWG Meth Inj.362whp / 360tq	You dont HAVE to build your tranny right away, Ive gone sub 12's a few times already this season in a stock 03 tranny.... Its not going to explode the second you floor it, but just be prepared that at this much power it CAN happen, Stick to a sonfter clutch like a stage 1 exedy, nothing to harsh and dont slam gears like you stole it and you may be ok.

11-20-2009, 03:42 PM	#21
blackcompany NASIOC Supporter Member#: 143158 Join Date: Mar 2007 Chapter/Region: International Location: Anjung Ri, S. Korea Vehicle: 2007 STI UGM	P&L motorsports drag car went 9.5ish on a stock trans...well...sti trans.

11-20-2009, 03:59 PM	#24
RedRex26 Scooby Specialist Member#: 133418 Join Date: Nov 2006 Chapter/Region: Tri-State Location: middle of no where Vehicle: 2006 18g'd WRX TR SRR 329whp323wtq @18psi	the benefit of a fmic over a tmic in my opinion is a smoother more linear powerband. You will also make a alot more power over a tmic due to one colder air and two colder air lol plus the colder the air going into your motor the longer its going to last. and trust me on your 2.5liter you'll be far from the lag experienced on a 2 liter motor

11-20-2009, 04:00 PM	#25
NOT_2_SLOW Scooby Newbie Member#: 208817 Join Date: Apr 2009 Chapter/Region: Tri-State Vehicle: 2006 WRX TR CGM	i was thinking about the exedy twin disk.. my clutch acutally just blew out yesterday.. also someone asked about boost control.. i read manual is a better chose because their isnt an electrical relay, so id put a mbc somewher in the cabin so it canbe adjusted from the drivers seat Ive got some susspention done ive gotfront and rear swaybars control arms and endlinks