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Old 09-20-2002, 12:32 AM   #1
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I'd really like to change all the lighting in my Legacy to blue instead of the green that came with the factory. The speedometer, tach, etc. guages, all the little indicators behind stuff like the A/C.... Is this possible? The only real concern I'd have is the LCD that gives outside temp and milage...

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Old 09-20-2002, 02:09 AM   #2
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I have also wondered this...

Also some time back I remember a thread talking about changing out the map lights, or just putting bulb comdems over them but I cant find it. Does anyone have and information on this?
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Old 09-20-2002, 10:10 AM   #3
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You can get bulb condoms for ~$3.00 at places like AUTOZONE. They just slip over the existing bulb.


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Old 09-20-2002, 10:20 AM   #4
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in my tiburon i had changed all interior lighting to blue LEDs. it was really nice looking... you just need to go to radio shack, get a solder iron and solder, a bunch of LEDs and ~330 ohm resistors to convert 12v to 3-ish volts. have fun!
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Old 09-21-2002, 04:01 AM   #5
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In my Impreza I have changed the HVAC controls to a deep blue by using 194 or 168 LED bulbs from autodynamic.com. The bulbs have a plastic base, which you need to grind or cut down to the size of the bulbs (there are 2) that are behind the knobs. The LEDs just push in like the stock bulbs, no problems so far. You can also get bulb condoms that go over the stock bulbs, but the color seems to be more of an aqua than a blue. I would like to know if anyone knows how to do the speedo and tach lights as well.

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Old 09-22-2002, 10:44 AM   #6
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Khail19,

it seems to me that you could put in the indiglo guages, with 10 shades green to blue you should find a good match. I haven't done anything yet, but looking at bulb condoms, with indiglo. I bought an mp3 deck that put my stereo to blue led in prep for the whole job.

For now I just lower the interior brightness, and the mp3 deck has a blackout mode so it does not look mismatched.
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Old 09-22-2002, 11:18 AM   #7
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Old 09-22-2002, 08:48 PM   #8
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555wrx that post does not apply to our new age wrx.. any other spots you've seen around????
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Old 09-22-2002, 09:16 PM   #9
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i tried this with my old eclipse.

blue bulb condoms usually result in an aqua backlight because the blue mixes with the yellow light from the bulbs. this was my experience anyway, the only color i ever had luck with when it came to condoms was the red condoms, but i didn't like the shade of red, wasn't RED enough.

in the end i used some clear red paint from the craft store, it is used for windows and light bulbs. i didn't paint the bulbs becuase it burns off, i ended up painting the backside of the gauges, hvac controls etc. you can controle the deepness of the color by adding layers of color, worked nicely.

i think the only way to get the true blue color is leds which should be a nice project.
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Old 09-23-2002, 06:53 AM   #10
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Old 09-23-2002, 09:43 PM   #11
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Wagon Guy,

Thanks for the reply, I am aware of the regular indiglo and do not like the way they look at all. There is also the reverse indiglo (where just the markings and numbers light up), and like the look of them at night, but do not like the white faces during the day. There has been a lot of discussion in other threads about making black faced reverse indiglo gauges, but no one has made them yet as far as I know. So my only other choice is to change the bulbs. I ordered some blue LEDs from www.ledtronics.com that should plug right in to the dash sockets, we'll find out when they get here. About $10 per bulb though, and it looks like 5 are needed. I'll post on whether they work or not when I get them.

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Old 09-24-2002, 07:56 PM   #12
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Khail19

Please do post a follow up on those LED's, and if they don't work, I heard that reverse indiglo has a super low life, the luminescent (sp) effect just fades.. I am just going on hearsay. But I agree the reverse look way better at night. Damn volkswagon guys got it made.
Anyone else have better input on the reverse indiglos???
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Old 09-25-2002, 03:24 PM   #13
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I wanted the red "aircraft instrument panel" look. I just painted the gage and center console bulbs in my WRX with red Testors paint. Worked fine, won't burn off. You just have to be careful to not paint high beam, turn signal indicator, etc, bulbs.
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Old 09-25-2002, 05:51 PM   #14
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If there is anyone in the Chicago or Peoria area that is willing to do this I will pay them. I don't trust my self doing it.
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Old 09-25-2002, 09:00 PM   #15
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Wagon Guy,
My bulbs should be here tomorrow or Friday, so I'll put them in and post for you guys on how they look.

Anglophile,
I also went with painting the bulbs red, which worked pretty well. When I tried painting them blue the color was very diffuse and uneven, and did not look good at all. I think red works better because it is closer to the natural color of the light and it lets more light shine through the bulb.

Keep posting guys so we don't lose this thread!!

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Old 09-26-2002, 03:54 PM   #16
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Khail19 do you have a cam to post pics?? And what is your intention for the center console where the air controls are? Will your center be green still or are there LED's to convert these as well?

One more thing, how do I know if this will work for new age WRX?
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Old 09-27-2002, 02:13 AM   #17
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Wagon Guy,

I have a cam but haven't used the software yet. I'll get one of my roommates to show me how. I got the bulbs today and I'm still playing with them, but I think the 5mm ones are too large. I should have got more 4.5mm bulbs. My car is a new style (MY02+) Impreza, just not a WRX. Our setups are identical though. I have already done the center console with LEDs, that is what prompted me to do the dash. They matched my Clarion head unit so good I was amazed. But then the dash was still green and had to go. The LEDs I used for the center were size 194 bulbs; I grinded the plastic bases down to fit in the sockets. I had these leftover after I got pulled over for having blue sidemarkers, so I got creative with them and for once I did something useful. These won't work in the dash without taking off the needles and the gauge face overlays, which I have heard too many horror stories about to try. So I'll let you know when I get these things going good. And anyone who is ordering these bulbs from www.LEDtronics.com, make sure you get 6 of the 4.5mm size wedge LEDs. I only got 5 and I have suck now.

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Old 09-27-2002, 10:55 PM   #18
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Sorry still no pics yet. I got the bulbs in and on the brightest setting they are still very dim. They are very bright right in front of the bulb, but the light is focused in one spot and doesn't spread around very well. They are still visible in total darkness, but not bright enough for me. Maybe I'll try putting bulb condoms over the LEDs to spread the light around more. This might just make it dimmer though. Oh well I'll figure it out. Let me know if you guys have any ideas for this.

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Old 09-28-2002, 12:36 AM   #19
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just wanted to let you guys know, I ordered "194/168 LED Blue with 4 Bulbs Type *EXTRA BRIGHTNESS* " bulbs from www.autodynamic.com and just put them in. THey took a bit of cutting to get them to fit the smaller socket size. In the process I got the factory bulb stuck in a socket and broke it.. so I had to take everything apart. If you're careful and cut enough of the plastic base though, you should have no problems. In any case, they look fantastic compared to the blue bulb condoms that I used to use... the difference in "blueness" is like night and day! Now I need to order more for my gauges on my a-pillar! =P

I'm going to have to remember this thread for when my reverse indiglo gauges die... I'll have to force those damn oem green numbers to blue!

EDIT: I should have mentioned WHERE I put these LEDs in .... behind the air conditioning controls

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Old 09-28-2002, 02:27 AM   #20
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CyC,

Glad it worked for you too! I had these bulbs in my white face Autometer Phantom gauges in my other car and they looked really good. The color is a very deep blue, almost bordering on purple, which is exactly what I wanted. Now if I could just get the dash lights the same way I could start screwing around with making the car faster and handle better instead of taking my dash apart every night!

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Old 09-28-2002, 03:53 PM   #21
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Come on khail I'm getting impatient

Just kidding man, but when you got your kinks worked out I would appreciate a revised order list that I could use to start from scratch, meaning I have not done the air control lights yet, and want to order everything I need all at once...

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Old 09-28-2002, 05:35 PM   #22
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Dan,

You should get the smaller size, 4.5mm bulbs. The 5mm don't fit without modification and the smaller ones are either brighter or have a wider angle of reflection. I only got one of the smaller ones and whichever spot I put it in is definitely brighter than the rest of the dash lights. The part # for the blue LEDs is WF-150-OPB-014V. You need 6 for the dash and 2 for the heater and A/C controls. I will have to reorder more of the smaller ones and hopefully they will let me refund the larger ones I don't need. Will post pics as soon as I can. My roommate has the digi cam and the software I need to load on my PC, hopefully she comes home soon!

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Old 09-28-2002, 08:15 PM   #23
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Old 09-28-2002, 09:40 PM   #24
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What website is that part number for? I'm a little confused
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Old 09-28-2002, 10:35 PM   #25
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Khail,

(8) 4.5mm's it is. I will order em monday, can't wait. So these bulbs are the deep blue, almost purple look. Would you say they rate favorably compared to the VW lightscheme? Is there a thread you used to see how to take the dash apart, or did you just do it?

CYC,

I hope I am speaking correctly for him, but LEDTRONICS>COM is the place he referenced for those part numbers.

One more thing Khail, any thoughts on the fog light, and cruise control indicator lights?


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