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Old 03-25-2003, 04:33 PM   #1
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Lightbulb My version of front speaker install

I put together some information on the front speaker install for '02 and '03 Imprezas. This is on a TS wagon, but I'm assuming WRX and RS are similar. I know most of this is in the FAQ, but maybe this would be helpful to some people. Not that anyone reads the FAQ first

http://users.sisna.com/ignatius/subaru/mods/index.html

I do have one question about a mistake I might have made: can someone confirm the polarity of the stock plug?

If anyone interested in this has suggestions for improving it, please feel free to let me know. Thank you.
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Old 03-25-2003, 07:24 PM   #2
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very clean - I like your spacer
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Old 03-25-2003, 11:59 PM   #3
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Nice guide. I'll be doing this in a week or so.

What are you driving the Infinity's with? Also did you do your rears?

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Old 03-26-2003, 08:09 AM   #4
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That spacer is great! I wish I would have known about those a few weks ago....
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Old 03-26-2003, 11:05 AM   #5
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Thanks for the input.

For now, we just have the stock HU in there. At some point that will be upgraded, but the speakers were on sale and so I took the opportunity to do that first. Haven't done the rear speakers yet, but if I did I'd probably go with Infinity's. I just like these speakers, I have them in the OB. The sound is much clearer and more smooth. They do a good job with minimal power. No plans to add an amp.

The spacers worked really well with this speaker. They'd be too shallow with anything much deeper, unless one used thicker gasket material. On the plastic ring is printed, "Brockway Standard Inc." (the manufacturer) and ARMLOK (the name of the product). I doubt you can get these directly from the manufacturer, but maybe from someone who deals with a lot of gallon paint cans. I don't have any extras, unfortunately.

Still waiting on some feedback about the polarity, does anyone out there know if I got it right in the writeup?
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Old 03-26-2003, 03:04 PM   #6
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You can get a harness adapter that plugs into the stock wiring harness and then to your aftermarket speakers from Crutchfield. I think it was like $10 or so. But, the polarity of the wires was reversed (positive as marked on the wire to the speaker was supposed to be negative, and vice versa). Just e-mail/call Crutchfield and ask for the front speaker harness for a 2002+ WRX if you need a set.

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Old 03-26-2003, 04:16 PM   #7
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Question Sorry, I'm slow

Mike: You're talking about this, right?

http://www.crutchfield.com/cgi-bin/S...004&display=XL

So, when you say the polarity of wires is reversed, do you mean in my writeup or on the Crutchfield product? I think you mean on the Crutchfield plug, but please clarify, thanks. FWIW, my speakers sound good as wired (negative top), so I'm assuming they're right as described in my writeup. TIA.
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Old 03-26-2003, 05:29 PM   #8
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Your speakers will sound "good" wired either way. It really doesn't matter which way you hook it up as long as they're not opposite (if you wire them opposite, or "out of phase" they may cancel each other depending on where you sit).

Some people actually run they're speakers "backwards" on purpose claiming they like the sound (usually with the sub)...I've never noticed any difference

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Old 03-27-2003, 12:01 AM   #9
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Mike: You're talking about this, right?

http://www.crutchfield.com/cgi-bin/S...004&display=XL

So, when you say the polarity of wires is reversed, do you mean in my writeup or on the Crutchfield product? I think you mean on the Crutchfield plug, but please clarify, thanks. FWIW, my speakers sound good as wired (negative top), so I'm assuming they're right as described in my writeup. TIA.
Correct, I am refering to the Crutchfield plug wires.

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Old 03-27-2003, 01:22 AM   #10
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Great writeup! Nice and simple, and easy to follow - thanks!
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Old 03-27-2003, 01:23 PM   #11
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throw that great guide up here if you can scoobymods

I was looking for it last week when i did the same thing! There is a guide up there, but not as good as yours.
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Old 03-27-2003, 02:21 PM   #12
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Cool

Thanks for the positive feedback y'all. It's up on scoobymods now. I checked there first, couldn't believe that there wasn't anything like this there. The FAQ on this board was obviously the inspiration for the writeup, thanks to those who laid the groundwork, they did much more than I did, I just documented it differently.

Mike and Josh - thanks for the clarification. Makes sense that the more important issue is *consistent* polarity between speakers.
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Old 03-27-2003, 07:56 PM   #13
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Nice writeup. I saved the page on my computer so I can use it when I do my install. Thanks
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Old 03-27-2003, 08:08 PM   #14
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I just installed a set of infinity reference series (cheapo) components today, I cut my spacer out of 1/2" plywood with a jigsaw. Then I hot glued the x-overs to the door panel, here's a pic of the pax. side done but the x-over is just sitting there.

I hot glued the tweeters to the stock location also. Hotglue is the installers best friend I swear

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Old 03-28-2003, 02:33 AM   #15
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Is installing a crossover with a set of component speakers pretty straight forward? Does it come with detail instruction of what to wire and where? I just ordered some spacers from East Coast Subaru and they should be here soon. In the meantime, I am looking for some new speakers.
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Old 03-28-2003, 10:55 AM   #16
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Originally posted by WRXerist
Is installing a crossover with a set of component speakers pretty straight forward? Does it come with detail instruction of what to wire and where? I just ordered some spacers from East Coast Subaru and they should be here soon. In the meantime, I am looking for some new speakers.
yeah, the xover is labled + in _ | + w - | + TW -
pretty straightforward.
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Old 03-28-2003, 12:12 PM   #17
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One more question, if I am planning on using some sound deadening material on the doors, do I need to keep that plastic sheet that covers each door after applying the the sound deadening material or do i just dump it?
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Old 06-02-2003, 02:06 PM   #18
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Man, I wish I had seen this before I installed my door speakers. I would have saved a lot of time cutting my spacers out of MDF. You could probably get those paint can spacers at a local paint store...?

About the reverse polarity: I have the polarity on my 12" JL sub in my trunk reversed. I have my sub in a sealed box. I tested it both ways and it hit harder in my car reversed.
My buddy put his 8" bandpass box in my trunk to test it out once and it sounded better with the polarity reversed too. Try it out, you may be surprised!
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Old 06-02-2003, 05:07 PM   #19
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Very nice HOWTO, thanks! I'm going to install my Diamonds in my STi and your instructions clarified a few things on the door panel remoal.
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Old 11-28-2005, 09:27 PM   #20
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Excellent tutorial!

Can anyone confirm that the depths in the tutorial are also accurate for a 2003 WRX?

1.5" without spacer / 2.75" with spacer

I realize it is an old topic, but I don't see it clarified anywhere, and this is the best HOWTO I've seen.

Thank you very much for any help.
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Old 11-28-2005, 11:39 PM   #21
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Wow nice spacers! Next time I'm at home depot I'll ask for some.
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Old 11-29-2005, 12:19 AM   #22
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I broke 3-4 of the door handel trim rings before i figured out the secret to it. If you just pull the door panel off after the screws are out and everything, it will just pop off on its own. I dont know if anyone else has dont it this way, but I have broke it trying to pull it off. I dunno, just adding my info, anyways nice right up, and dsmperformance, your panel is much easier to take off, you dont have the screw it the top, you just have to take the screw out from the window roll contoller, and pull that off and unhook it, and then pull on the bottom of the panel, also if you are doing your rear doors as well, look straight on at the door, their is a little plastic screw on the upper part that comes out
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Old 11-29-2005, 10:22 AM   #23
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do the new 6.5" speakers fit with the door opening that was originally there for the 5.25" speakers??
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Old 11-30-2005, 01:01 AM   #24
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just to let you know those speaker adapters are 5 bucks at cardomain.com http://www.cardomain.com/item/MET729300 thats the link for em.
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do your speakers fit behind the plastic door panel? I had to cut out a hole for my speakers (infinity 6010i)
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