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Old 06-09-2003, 02:43 PM   #1
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As many of you have read. I am one of the first to order a 04 STi guage cluster to install in my 02 WRX.....
I finally recieved the cluster today. Let me inform you of what Ive found as I will need some electrical/wiring gurus help on a couple of items.....
Install was a snap I removed the stock cluster (for sale by the way)and the hardest part was getting it out with the factory collum mount boost guage in the way....
The new STi cluster arrived with the shift light knob in a seperate box. It looked straight foward as far as installing the knob. There were going to be 2 holes that would need to be drilled one on the clear cover from the stock cluster , and the 2nd on the cluster surround (again from the stock cluster) which is premarked.
I chose not to install the shift light knob as it seems there is something missing that will hold it in place. Hope to convince a friend with a STi (944 turbo guy) to permit me to look at how his cluster is set up so I can further understand how this knob is installed.......
I swapped ovewr the clear cover,guage surround and black hood from the stock cluster to the STi cluster and reinstalled cluster into my WRX. restarted car and the sweep function works!!! It looks beautiful and was a deciding factor in my purchasing the STi cluster... The guages and needles light up red with the STi logo lighting up in pink.....
Reved the engine and realised STi and WRX share a 7000 rpm redline...Guess what happened at 6800-6900 RPM??!! the shift light came on blinking very fast...IT WORKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! no need for the shift knob as I will never anticipate having to lower my shift light point.......
Mileage read 000.0
Now for the bad news.....
First the signal light indicator doesnt work.. I can hear the relay clicking the lights on/off. Visual confirmation that theyre blinking but no indicator on dash to let me know that theyre on. If I try the l turn signal a light illuminates very faintly that says "hold" in green but thats all....
2nd the DCCD indicator stays on all the time...no biggie but I want to remove that sooner or later....
3rd Dimmer switch doesnt work!!! Its set to full bright and thats it.....
and the outside temp guage is stuck on 45 degrees...makes me hope all I need to do is plug in the outside temp guage and it should work....

So calling all wiring gurus..How can I rewire the cluster to work the signal lights?? How about a working dimmer??

I have pics but dont know how to upload them for viewing.....

If you have any questions feel free to ask away.....
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Old 06-09-2003, 03:07 PM   #2
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If you wanna email me the pics I can host them.. pm'ing you my address.
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Old 06-09-2003, 03:09 PM   #3
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Sweet mizar Id appreciate that.. I will do that once the wife comes over with my camera to computer cable....
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Old 06-09-2003, 03:28 PM   #4
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Sounds like they moved some things around in the harness. You need to find the STi schematics to see where everything is going. I have the WRX schematics, but not the STi.
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Old 06-09-2003, 03:46 PM   #5
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2000vfr800 would you have that in email friendly form?? If so can you email me with it??
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Old 06-09-2003, 04:09 PM   #6
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If it is the USDM 04 STi cluster then at least you'll have a chance to eventually down load the electrical manuals for the 02 & 04STi

With out the schematics it is realy hard to tell what wires are crossed & what is still missing or pinned wrong.
Does any one know if the 04 STi is downloadable yet???
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Old 06-09-2003, 10:24 PM   #7
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mizar tried emailing them to you but your mailbox was full...........
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Old 06-10-2003, 10:40 AM   #8
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Old 06-10-2003, 01:47 PM   #9
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The two wires that we're looking at are the wires for the ambient temp. sensor. The '02-03 OBS came with it, so the WRX has the wires for it. Apparently, they short the stereo. Working on this.

Glad to hear the shift light works. I'll get these diagrams at some point during the day so we can figure the rest of this out.

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Old 06-10-2003, 02:04 PM   #10
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Ryan they were the black with blue stripe and black with pink stripe correct??

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Old 06-10-2003, 03:42 PM   #11
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how about the inner trim piece (which was revised for 04')? htis is the piece that goes around the gauge faces. are they in stock? i am planning on doing this soon but i want the surround as well.
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Old 06-10-2003, 03:53 PM   #12
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Tobey I reused my stock piece as can be seen on the final pic...You can see the pimple where you would drill/dremel for the shift light knob.... Im wondering if the turn signal indicators are covered up by the 02 trim piece...hmmmm need pic of sti cluster to compare....

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Old 06-10-2003, 04:12 PM   #13
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Believe to have figured out the no turn signal mystery....
look at the sti cluster in this link......
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...hreadid=368094
compare it to my cluster pic and notice the surround over the speedo/tach....
The STi one has less trim and more space for guages... I bet mine are covered up by the 02 trim ....will check on cost for a new STi trim and see if that works......will keep ya updated

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Old 06-10-2003, 05:58 PM   #14
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Tobey I reused my stock piece as can be seen on the final pic...You can see the pimple where you would drill/dremel for theshift light knob.... Im wondering if the turn signal indicators are coverup by the o2 trim piece...hmmmm need pic of sti cluster to compare....
yeah but the new trim piece is so butta!!

i would pull the outer trim pieces off and see if the blinkers do in fact work before ordering one. the spacing on the plastic might be off or something, i bet that is the problem though.

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Old 06-10-2003, 06:24 PM   #15
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That looks sweet, but did you get a dealer to verify your old mileage? If not, then your warranty is shot for sure, and there may be issues when you sell/trade the car.
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Old 06-10-2003, 06:42 PM   #16
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If you don't mind me asking, how much did that sweet little bitch cost ya?
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Old 06-10-2003, 08:02 PM   #17
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thrdeye $433 was the cost.......

no-rex-yet...i have that covered allready....
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Old 06-11-2003, 04:15 AM   #19
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Just pull the bulb for the DCCD piece!
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Update Update Update Update!!!

Whats DCCD anyways? I WANT THESE GUAGES!!! Ive never wanted anything STi on my car(cuz its not an STi).. but damn this is too bad ass! I imagine simply hooking up a temp probe would make the temp work. Thats what we do on our Marquee stuff here at work. All it needs is the sensor hooked up.

If only I had the money.

Now taking donations for project WedREX.

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Old 06-11-2003, 01:34 PM   #21
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Here's a thought: I have the temp sonsor in my '02 WRX wagon hooked up to the guage cluster form the '01 model year- the one with compass, temp, etc.- I wonder if that particular sensor would work on your cluster?
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Old 06-11-2003, 01:41 PM   #22
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a few months ago i was going to do the old sti cluster...i was going to try to hook up a front temp sensor but it mounts in the front bumper (near the horn)... i couldn't find the empty harness that the sensor plugs into.

can someone get a part number for that harness? is it already in the car? i didn't take the front bumper off to look?

the sensor is $25 through most places, i have the part number here somewhere...
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Old 06-11-2003, 02:21 PM   #24
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Cool. As a reference, how exactly did you get the odometer documented? Do they add a notation to your title? Great job on doing this!

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thrdeye $433 was the cost.......

no-rex-yet...i have that covered allready....
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Whats DCCD anyways?
Chris
dccd is the driver controlled center differential, the STi's get that little wheel/knob on the center console that lets them manually adjust the amt of power given the front and rears (i think that's what it did, 35/65 and vice versa max right?)

btw, how do you remove the stock cluster? is it hard/need lots of odd tools?
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