Nigerian scam gets a guy on the 900rr forum.

Sirkbac · 09-10-2003, 04:53 PM

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I thought everyone knew about these things by now.....amazing.

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Sirkbac · 09-10-2003, 04:57 PM

Damn, I just rememberd....

The off-topic forum is members only.

I'll post some details.

Sirkbac · 09-10-2003, 04:59 PM

I just got scamed $4500 and am done being on the internet. Its one of those F ucking nigerian scams. It was my mistake for trusting to easy but I didnt think about how this could happen. DONT EVER do anything money-wise from nigeria or with nigerians. I have just lost all trust in people and the internet. I never though this would happen to me. I was stupid.

I will check in here once and a while but am getting rid of my savings and checking accounts and credit cards and am only using cash and my cable modem.

My checking account has been frozen and I hope to god that my bank lets me keep what is in there and lets me make payments to them, otherwise, i'm screwed. pm me if you care to talk or ask me about what happend, otherwise, i wont say, it is embarrising. later guys

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Here is what happend.

I am selling my car stereo equipment. I posted it on a classified board. A guy named frankling Brown emails me and says he wants them (2 amps). He says that he sold some items to someone here in the us and just wants me to get a money order from his client (the person that bought some stuff from him) instead of it going to africa and then back. so he says to cash it and wire him the difference. Well I do that and wire the difference and then my bank calls and said the money order was rubber, meaning that it had a "stop payment" on it. But it was to late, I had already wired the money. Now given that the bank never checked the legitimacy of the money order (which was US), it was nobodys fault but my own. I feel stupid as hell but its a learning experience. I just hope I dont have to file bankruptcy. I have to work out something with my bank, they already froze my checking account and already had one bounced check.

Sirkbac · 09-10-2003, 05:00 PM

Most people are biteing their tounges......but it's hard not to go "WHAT THE HELL WERE YOU THINKING!"

Amazing.

chkltcow · 09-10-2003, 05:07 PM

Christ almighty... I thought everybody knew about those things already.

Does he think all the women IMing him about their webcams are really interested in him, too?

mykrrrr · 09-10-2003, 05:52 PM

I was selling my Vespa and I got all these emails about someone wanting to buy it from Africa and all that. I just deleted them.

-mykr.

bruticus · 09-10-2003, 06:30 PM

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pm me if you care to talk or ask me about what happend, otherwise, i wont say, it is embarrising. later guys

You PM him and he responds with "I've found somebody who'll give me money, but he can't wire it into my account since it's frozen. He says he'll pay a 10% commission to somebody who lets him use their bank account, so let me know your account# and routing/ABA number..."

DjB

Zahnster · 09-10-2003, 06:36 PM

How can a money order have a stop payment on it? I thought that was same as cash/cashiers check?

Moop · 09-10-2003, 06:48 PM

I think he meant it was a forgery. He sounds a bit confused.

akuhner · 09-10-2003, 06:54 PM

I got the same thing selling my Legacy, but it was easy to catch because he called it a "bike!" hehe!

cdclark · 09-10-2003, 07:19 PM

Yes, it happened to someone on NASIOC... as a result, he no longer owns a WRX...

/me fists Nigeria

Chuck H · 09-10-2003, 10:59 PM

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Originally posted by Zahnster
How can a money order have a stop payment on it? I thought that was same as cash/cashiers check?

Yes, you can put a stop payment on a money order, same as on a check. It's a little more paperwork, but not all that much. I've had to do it before on a money order that disappeared in the mail.

Money orders are actually nowhere near as safe as most people assume. It's easy for someone to send you one, then put a stop payment on it and screw you the same way as with a personal check.

Sirkbac · 09-10-2003, 11:03 PM

From what I have seen used in the Nigerian scams, they are actually fake money orders. If people would check with the bank that supposedly issued the money order they would find out right away it's a fake. Sucks people fall for this......I'm just amazed that people do...

WRX>MUSTANG · 09-11-2003, 12:08 AM

Ouch that sucks

JewPac42 · 09-11-2003, 12:09 AM

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Originally posted by WRX>MUSTANG
Ouch that sucks

Least stupid post by WRX>MUSTANG evar!!!

MrBlue · 09-11-2003, 12:11 AM

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Originally posted by chkltcow

Does he think all the women IMing him about their webcams are really interested in him, too?

Bambi loves me!!!!

WRX>MUSTANG · 09-11-2003, 12:14 AM

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Originally posted by JewPac42

Least stupid post by WRX>MUSTANG evar!!!

cartoon post > this one

Jessie James · 09-11-2003, 11:34 AM

You can also put a stop payment on Cashiers Checks.

I used to work for BofA. They give you a recipet when you buy it (carbon sheet from the check) which you can use to cancel the check.

Theoretically you get a check for someone, stop payment the next day and give the bad check to whoever in exchange for services.

Nigerian thing is clever because once you've wired cash, it's GONE. No way to get it back. I am amazed banks still do it.

Personally, I think the banks should try to get the wire back.

enozto · 09-11-2003, 12:11 PM

samething almost happened to me. I was selling my laptop on ebay and the person who won the auction paid me via paypal.

well i waited until my paypal account said 'confirm' and transaction cleared. the money was even deposited into my bank account. well the day i was about to ship out the package, i recieved an email from paypal telling me that i owe them money and another email from ebay telling me to decline the payment.

phew.. i was almost out 1k. luckily i didnt ship the damn thing.

enozto · 09-11-2003, 12:13 PM

question, can the check clear, money gets depositied into your checking account, and reversed afterwards?

a guy emails me asking me if i accept cashiers check for my car im trying to sell. would i be safe even after the cash gets deposited into my account?

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Originally posted by RS25.com
You can also put a stop payment on Cashiers Checks.

I used to work for BofA. They give you a recipet when you buy it (carbon sheet from the check) which you can use to cancel the check.

Theoretically you get a check for someone, stop payment the next day and give the bad check to whoever in exchange for services.

Nigerian thing is clever because once you've wired cash, it's GONE. No way to get it back. I am amazed banks still do it.

Personally, I think the banks should try to get the wire back.

Cjchaps · 09-11-2003, 12:22 PM

Tell him you don't accept cashier's checks, but you do accept wire transfers!!! It works for the nigerians!

Quote:

Originally posted by enozto
question, can the check clear, money gets depositied into your checking account, and reversed afterwards?

a guy emails me asking me if i accept cashiers check for my car im trying to sell. would i be safe even after the cash gets deposited into my account?

hunts · 09-11-2003, 12:43 PM

Has anyone ever done a money order through bidpay.com before? I discovered that the seller from ebay doesn't ship items at all, so I contacted bidpay.com, and they claimed that they cannot put "stop payment" on the money order (even though it wasn't cashed yet!). They further state that this person can get the money order cashed anywhere they want. So now, I've lost 500.00!

I sent the seller a warning to either ship me the item or refund my money. Otherwise, I will report him to the Post Master, NYPD, and FBI. It's almost been 24 hours, and I haven't received a response yet. I have, however, found out the home address and telephone number of the seller. I could easily take a train to N.Y. right now and confront him. Or, he could always have the NYPD and FBI "storm-trooper" his place and haul his @$$ outta there!

fuzzbox · 09-11-2003, 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by enozto
question, can the check clear, money gets depositied into your checking account, and reversed afterwards?

a guy emails me asking me if i accept cashiers check for my car im trying to sell. would i be safe even after the cash gets deposited into my account?

Yes, they definitely can. That's how a lot of those scams work. Scammer gives you a $4000 money order for a $1500 item, then asks you to ship the item to him and wire the remainder to his friend. Your bank will clear a check in 7-10 days- it's the law that they have to- but it make take 3-5 weeks for a check/MO to be discovered to be a forgery, especially if it's from a small bank, or by professional forgers. by that time you're out both the merchandise AND some extra cash.

-jason

09-10-2003, 04:53 PM	#1
Sirkbac Rest in Peace We love you. Member#: 11971 Join Date: Nov 2001 Chapter/Region: NESIC Location: MA Vehicle: 02 Mazda Protege5 05 Honda CBR1000rr Repsol	Nigerian scam gets a guy on the 900rr forum. Link I thought everyone knew about these things by now.....amazing. * Registered users of the site do not see these ads.

09-10-2003, 07:19 PM	#12
cdclark Scooby Newbie Member#: 8095 Join Date: Jul 2001 Chapter/Region: SCIC Location: e pluribus unamusem Vehicle: 2010 OB: Subie #3 2001 Golf TDI ... Diesel!	happened here too... Yes, it happened to someone on NASIOC... as a result, he no longer owns a WRX... /me fists Nigeria

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09-10-2003, 04:54 PM	#2
KD7000 Scooby Specialist Member#: 16653 Join Date: Mar 2002 Chapter/Region: NESIC Location: Central MA Vehicle: 2004 Honda Pilot 2003 Mazda Protege5	Linky no worky --- You do not have access to this forum. Are you logged in? You are NOT logged in < <Go Back

09-10-2003, 04:57 PM	#3
Sirkbac Rest in Peace We love you. Member#: 11971 Join Date: Nov 2001 Chapter/Region: NESIC Location: MA Vehicle: 02 Mazda Protege5 05 Honda CBR1000rr Repsol	Damn, I just rememberd.... The off-topic forum is members only. I'll post some details.

09-10-2003, 04:59 PM	#4
Sirkbac Rest in Peace We love you. Member#: 11971 Join Date: Nov 2001 Chapter/Region: NESIC Location: MA Vehicle: 02 Mazda Protege5 05 Honda CBR1000rr Repsol	I just got scamed $4500 and am done being on the internet. Its one of those F ucking nigerian scams. It was my mistake for trusting to easy but I didnt think about how this could happen. DONT EVER do anything money-wise from nigeria or with nigerians. I have just lost all trust in people and the internet. I never though this would happen to me. I was stupid. I will check in here once and a while but am getting rid of my savings and checking accounts and credit cards and am only using cash and my cable modem. My checking account has been frozen and I hope to god that my bank lets me keep what is in there and lets me make payments to them, otherwise, i'm screwed. pm me if you care to talk or ask me about what happend, otherwise, i wont say, it is embarrising. later guys more Here is what happend. I am selling my car stereo equipment. I posted it on a classified board. A guy named frankling Brown emails me and says he wants them (2 amps). He says that he sold some items to someone here in the us and just wants me to get a money order from his client (the person that bought some stuff from him) instead of it going to africa and then back. so he says to cash it and wire him the difference. Well I do that and wire the difference and then my bank calls and said the money order was rubber, meaning that it had a "stop payment" on it. But it was to late, I had already wired the money. Now given that the bank never checked the legitimacy of the money order (which was US), it was nobodys fault but my own. I feel stupid as hell but its a learning experience. I just hope I dont have to file bankruptcy. I have to work out something with my bank, they already froze my checking account and already had one bounced check.

09-10-2003, 05:00 PM	#5
Sirkbac Rest in Peace We love you. Member#: 11971 Join Date: Nov 2001 Chapter/Region: NESIC Location: MA Vehicle: 02 Mazda Protege5 05 Honda CBR1000rr Repsol	Most people are biteing their tounges......but it's hard not to go "WHAT THE HELL WERE YOU THINKING!" Amazing.

09-10-2003, 05:07 PM	#6
chkltcow Scooby Specialist Member#: 10814 Join Date: Oct 2001 Chapter/Region: South East Location: Stanley, NC Vehicle: '02 WRX 97 Miata M	Christ almighty... I thought everybody knew about those things already. Does he think all the women IMing him about their webcams are really interested in him, too?

09-10-2003, 05:52 PM	#7
mykrrrr Scooby Guru Member#: 733 Join Date: Jan 2000 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: Squadra Delle Pecore Nere Vehicle: 05 '08 NC, '09 696 '62 Ford Falcon, XD9SC	I was selling my Vespa and I got all these emails about someone wanting to buy it from Africa and all that. I just deleted them. -mykr.

09-10-2003, 06:36 PM	#9
Zahnster Scooby Specialist Member#: 2918 Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Simi Valley, CA, USA Vehicle: 2002 Impreza WRX Silver Sedan	How can a money order have a stop payment on it? I thought that was same as cash/cashiers check?

09-10-2003, 06:48 PM	#10
Moop Scooby Newbie Member#: 19729 Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Livonia, MI Vehicle: 2000 S4 Silver	I think he meant it was a forgery. He sounds a bit confused.

09-10-2003, 06:54 PM	#11
akuhner Scooby Specialist Member#: 462 Join Date: Oct 1999 Chapter/Region: Tri-State Location: Brooklyn, NY Vehicle: 1998 Forester No more rally car...	I got the same thing selling my Legacy, but it was easy to catch because he called it a "bike!" hehe!

09-10-2003, 11:03 PM	#14
Sirkbac Rest in Peace We love you. Member#: 11971 Join Date: Nov 2001 Chapter/Region: NESIC Location: MA Vehicle: 02 Mazda Protege5 05 Honda CBR1000rr Repsol	From what I have seen used in the Nigerian scams, they are actually fake money orders. If people would check with the bank that supposedly issued the money order they would find out right away it's a fake. Sucks people fall for this......I'm just amazed that people do...

09-11-2003, 12:08 AM	#15
WRX>MUSTANG Banned Member#: 31280 Join Date: Dec 2002	Ouch that sucks

09-11-2003, 11:34 AM	#19
Jessie James Scooby Specialist Member#: 2072 Join Date: Aug 2000 Chapter/Region: MAIC Location: Sterling, VA	You can also put a stop payment on Cashiers Checks. I used to work for BofA. They give you a recipet when you buy it (carbon sheet from the check) which you can use to cancel the check. Theoretically you get a check for someone, stop payment the next day and give the bad check to whoever in exchange for services. Nigerian thing is clever because once you've wired cash, it's GONE. No way to get it back. I am amazed banks still do it. Personally, I think the banks should try to get the wire back.

09-11-2003, 12:11 PM	#20
enozto Scooby Newbie Member#: 32122 Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: nj Vehicle: 09 Kuota	samething almost happened to me. I was selling my laptop on ebay and the person who won the auction paid me via paypal. well i waited until my paypal account said 'confirm' and transaction cleared. the money was even deposited into my bank account. well the day i was about to ship out the package, i recieved an email from paypal telling me that i owe them money and another email from ebay telling me to decline the payment. phew.. i was almost out 1k. luckily i didnt ship the damn thing.

09-11-2003, 12:43 PM	#23
hunts Scooby Newbie Member#: 32198 Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Morris County, NJ Vehicle: MY02 Forester (the fast one passing u)	Has anyone ever done a money order through bidpay.com before? I discovered that the seller from ebay doesn't ship items at all, so I contacted bidpay.com, and they claimed that they cannot put "stop payment" on the money order (even though it wasn't cashed yet!). They further state that this person can get the money order cashed anywhere they want. So now, I've lost 500.00! I sent the seller a warning to either ship me the item or refund my money. Otherwise, I will report him to the Post Master, NYPD, and FBI. It's almost been 24 hours, and I haven't received a response yet. I have, however, found out the home address and telephone number of the seller. I could easily take a train to N.Y. right now and confront him. Or, he could always have the NYPD and FBI "storm-trooper" his place and haul his @$$ outta there!