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Old 10-08-2003, 05:30 PM   #1
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Default WRX Oil Filter Part Numbers - 060 vs 080 - New Details!

Hey gang...
after our lengthy discussion on the "new" 080 2004
oil filters, we were prompted to give Subaru a ring
and find out exactly what oil filter is to go where...
and possibly eliminate this confusion.

see: http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...hreadid=430542

Our dealership spoke at length with 2 of the
higher - uppers at Subaru
and have the final low down
on this oil filter confusion...
and yes.... they've changed their mind again

As of today, 10/8/03 - we were told the following:

all Subaru Turbo's from 2002 - on
should begin to use the 15208AA080 (black)
as a replacement oil filter.

yes, all 2.0 and 2.5L TURBO's

but....
if you have used or
have purchased the AA060 (white) oil filter -
that is okay!!
You will NOT hurt your car. It's perfectly fine to use the 060
so please, do not panic. Your car will function just fine
with the 060 in place - NO WORRIES

Reason for the change??? ....drumroll please....
.....a manufacturing change.....
yep. different manufacturer <---that is all....

so to keep it simple - Subaru is stating
that ALL MY2002 and newer -
turbo models only - should use AA080

and all NA (non turbo'd) should continue
to use the AA060 (with the exception of the H6, SVX, Loyale...)

hope this helps....
any questions just ask....

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Old 10-08-2003, 06:21 PM   #2
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So it's not Purolator making the filters anymore?
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Old 10-08-2003, 07:17 PM   #3
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no idea.... who the new vendor may be or not be
that information was not disclosed.

i was told this is basically to keep it simple.

non turbo = AA060
turbo = AA080

that way there is not more confusion
no "production break" to deal with... etc.

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Old 10-08-2003, 09:40 PM   #4
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Default Re: WRX Oil Filter Part Numbers - 060 vs 080 - New Details!

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Originally posted by AllSubaru.com
Reason for the change??? ....drumroll please....
.....a manufacturing change.....
yep. different manufacturer <---that is all....

so to keep it simple - Subaru is stating
that ALL MY2002 and newer -
turbo models only - should use AA080
Thanks for the clarification!

Guess I'll be using the 060's for a while (have a bunch of them in the garage) - then will transition to the tiny filter.
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Old 10-09-2003, 12:01 AM   #5
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Thanks for the clarification!

Guess I'll be using the 060's for a while (have a bunch of them in the garage) - then will transition to the tiny filter.
Me too - I just bought an entire case of 12
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Old 10-09-2003, 09:52 AM   #6
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How about making this thread a "sticky" for a little while?
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Old 10-09-2003, 10:43 AM   #7
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so if i understand this correctly, the new 080 filter is going be used because they are switching manuf., not because it was too big and was too close to the headers?

and if they are switching manuf., how come they did still going to get the 060?

personally, i think i'm going to stick w/the old part, the filter is bigger(from what's been posted), which will hold the recommend capacity, not sure how much less the new filter will be.....wonder if it's even goign to be an issue
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Old 10-09-2003, 11:18 AM   #8
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Quote:
Originally posted by vile
so if i understand this correctly, the new 080 filter is going be used because they are switching manuf., not because it was too big and was too close to the headers?

and if they are switching manuf., how come they did still going to get the 060?

personally, i think i'm going to stick w/the old part, the filter is bigger(from what's been posted), which will hold the recommend capacity, not sure how much less the new filter will be.....wonder if it's even goign to be an issue
The AA060 is THE oil filter for all of the NA engines.
the 2.5 Legacy and RS (non turbo'd), the non Turbo Baja....
all of these cars use the AA060, thus they still need them.


perhaps they had a company make the AA080 for the STi...
and got a good deal/cost savings...
then decided it would be easier, more effective to simply
use it on ALL of their late turbo models???

makes sense to me....
and sure... i can get this stickied for a bit.

thanks gang
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Old 10-09-2003, 01:50 PM   #9
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Thanks for the clarification, but I still can't find the 080 parts on your web site : ) Any help?

Thanks,

-st
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Old 10-09-2003, 03:48 PM   #10
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Which filter is recommended for 1991-1994 Legacy Turbos?

Is there any chance we could find out who the new manufacturer is?
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Old 10-09-2003, 04:12 PM   #11
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Quote:
Originally posted by singletrack
Thanks for the clarification, but I still can't find the 080 parts on your web site : ) Any help?

Thanks,

-st

Available on line now:
http://secure.cartsvr.net/catalogs/c...showprevnext=1


and NO THIS IS NOT RECOMMENDED (will not fit) FOR THE OLDER TURBOS... ONLY 2002 AND NEWER

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Old 10-11-2003, 01:46 PM   #12
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and NO THIS IS NOT RECOMMENDED (will not fit) FOR THE OLDER TURBOS... ONLY 2002 AND NEWER
The 080 filter most definitely *will fit* on 91-94 Legacy turbos.

In fact, the exhuast manifolds, the exhaust manifold cross pipe, the turbo joint pipe (up-pipe) and down pipe from a newer ej205 (wrx) will all fit an older ej22t - except that the oem uppipe on the ej22t is catless. Except for the fact that the coolant nipples point in different directions, the oil/coolant oil coolers are interchangeable also.

So, given the reasons stated in the tech TIPS for the change to the new smaller filter, the new 080 should be used on older ej22t's as well.

No that it really matters, though... they'll both fit and work well.
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Old 10-13-2003, 11:07 AM   #13
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Old 10-16-2003, 09:43 AM   #14
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I e-mailed SOA and they said use 060.


Quote:
Originally posted by vrg3
Which filter is recommended for 1991-1994 Legacy Turbos?
1991 Legacy Sport Sedan was the only year to have an oil cooler.

Quote:
In fact, the exhuast manifolds, the exhaust manifold cross pipe, the turbo joint pipe (up-pipe) and down pipe from a newer ej205 (wrx) will all fit an older ej22t - except that the oem uppipe on the ej22t is catless. Except for the fact that the coolant nipples point in different directions, the oil/coolant oil coolers are interchangeable also.
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Old 10-16-2003, 11:17 AM   #15
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1991 Legacy Sport Sedan was the only year to have an oil cooler.
Thanks!
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Old 10-20-2003, 10:12 PM   #16
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A subaru mechanic told me the new filter has a check valve inside that keeps the oil from draining from the turbo cooling lines and engine internals after the car is shut off.
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Old 12-01-2003, 01:54 PM   #17
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Quote:
Originally posted by Austin
The 080 filter most definitely *will fit* on 91-94 Legacy turbos.

In fact, the exhuast manifolds, the exhaust manifold cross pipe, the turbo joint pipe (up-pipe) and down pipe from a newer ej205 (wrx) will all fit an older ej22t - except that the oem uppipe on the ej22t is catless. Except for the fact that the coolant nipples point in different directions, the oil/coolant oil coolers are interchangeable also.

So, given the reasons stated in the tech TIPS for the change to the new smaller filter, the new 080 should be used on older ej22t's as well.

No that it really matters, though... they'll both fit and work well.
Exhaust plumbing and coolant has no relivation to a oil filter fitting properly on a car
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Old 12-01-2003, 04:14 PM   #18
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Quote:
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Exhaust plumbing and coolant has no relivation to a oil filter fitting properly on a car
I believe the word you were looking for is "relevance."

You're right, exhaust and coolant plumbing are not normally relevant. Exhaust piping location does, however, become relevant to the discussion when Subaru cites it as the reason to use a new smaller oil filter on their turbo models.

Here's page 8 from their August 2003 TechTIPS:
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Old 01-12-2004, 12:48 AM   #19
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Quote:
Originally posted by dropmech
A subaru mechanic told me the new filter has a check valve inside that keeps the oil from draining from the turbo cooling lines and engine internals after the car is shut off.
does anyone know this for sure?

can anyone substantiate it?
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Old 01-16-2004, 11:26 PM   #20
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What is the dealer retail price for the 080 filter?
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Old 01-19-2004, 11:22 AM   #21
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What is the dealer retail price for the 080 filter?
Dealers are free to set RETAIL to whatever they please.

Suggested MSRP from Subaru is $7.87 per filter.

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does anyone know this for sure?

can anyone substantiate it?
so much for answering my question
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Old 02-12-2004, 10:45 AM   #23
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I'm curious too. I just bought a bunch of the new ones from Carter and they are both much smaller than the PurOne and more expensive. If they really are better, great, but if not I'll go back to PurOne.
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Any difference between the factory purolator made filter and the purolator pureone ? besides $.
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Old 04-27-2004, 06:03 PM   #25
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I was at the dealer getting crush washers, and the parts guy told me I should be using AA080.
All this talk about overheating filters, check valves, new supplier, etc. is confusing, though plausible.
Personally, I have always liked the thought of using the largest possible filter (holdover from my SB Chevy days), and I have a stockpile of Purolater L11460's to use up.
Unless someone can confirm any real good reason not to.
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