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Old 10-23-2003, 01:22 PM   #1
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Thumbs up 3.0 H6 into 95 Impreza: Phase Three, Driving

First of all, for those not up to speed:
H6 Conversion Phase One, Installing
H6 Conversion Phase Two, Wiring

Anders says:
Eric came over last night to help with some of
the final preparations. Mostly fluids and stuff.
Cranked up the car, thankfully it still cranks
and I didn't mess anything up, because that would
be SUCH a buzz kill.

No leaks, so we let the engine warm up. Finally
the thermostat opened, so we added more coolant.

Spent some time playing with the power steering
pump, which is noisy. The fitting I welded on
may have some cavitation, or who knows, it's
a little weird. Worry about it later, it feels
fine driving.

Tested the brakes a third of the way down the ramps,
and they held, which is good. Backed out into the
driveway and yelled "Get in!" to Eric.

Eric was thinking that we would just drive around
the neighborhood at 1500 RPMs.

Well, at least I didn't goose it on the street *I*
live on.

We tried some 5% throttle and it sounded pretty
good, nothing was exploding. I turned onto the
Green Level heading toward Matthew's house and
opened it up.

Vroom dude! Man that thing is noisy! The exhaust
AND intake are making a bunch of noise. The good
kind! The intake
ends at the throttle body, no filter. I figured
h3ll, they used to do it at Indy. I'll be fine
for a mile on a paved road. And I was.

I'll let Eric jump in with further descriptions of
the ride.

Got home, shut it off, no leaks from the engine.
After some low-fives, Eric went home, and I sat
down to a couple beers and some burritos.

Ahhhhhhh

Eric Says:

Yep, I sat in the sphincter-clenching seat thinking "holy crap, he is gonna
blow up the car during the first mile of test driving..." No working tach, no
temp guages, no oil guages. Yep, we're ready, HAMMER DOWN!

(The windshield was fogging up and the stock lights are so crappy that we
couldn't see where we were going anyway. So that made it okay to do full
throttle runs up through fourth gear... )

Once back in the garage, Anders wondered how fast we were going. I tell him
that I saw 85 on the speedo during the last pull into fourth gear. He just kept
grinning like a doofus, he was quite dazed by that time and unable to create
any facial expression other than a silly grin.

I don't know how fast it actually is, but it pulls hard, and keeps on pulling
hard through all the gears. Lots of grunt. And it sounds absolutely FANTASTIC.
Really deep old-school growl, but you can still tell that it is a smooth modern
engine. Hard to describe, but I guarantee that everybody will like it!

Great fun, and I am amazed that at how quickly the swap happened. Good work
Anders!


Later,
Eric
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Old 10-23-2003, 02:17 PM   #2
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Congrats man!

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Old 10-23-2003, 02:26 PM   #3
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Thanks

More Blah blah blah on the first run at: LinaRacing.com

Still need to put in the blower motor, ac box, 'n' stuff. Also need to fab up a intake 'n' filter.

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Old 10-23-2003, 03:52 PM   #4
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WOW!, sounds like too much fun...
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Old 10-23-2003, 07:19 PM   #5
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wow that sounds really sweet, good job , that must pull hard
well im glad that some one stuffed a H6 in thier scooby
will it make it out to 1/4 mile at some point ?
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Old 10-23-2003, 08:43 PM   #6
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Congrats Anders! It;s giving you the love! ;-)

Cheers! John
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Old 10-24-2003, 02:23 AM   #7
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droooool
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Old 10-24-2003, 09:16 AM   #8
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will it make it out to 1/4 mile at some point ?
It's a rally car, not a drag car!

I have so many other things to do that interest me more than 1/4 mile, I'll probably never go to an actual track. A friend of mine has a GTech meter, that's about as close as it will ever get.
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Old 10-24-2003, 09:17 AM   #9
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Congrats Anders! It;s giving you the love! ;-)
Yes. Yes it is.

And it d@mn well better after all the work I've put into it! *grin*

How's that STi wackiness you've got up there?
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Old 10-24-2003, 01:44 PM   #10
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We've got the heat going in the barn and are working on some upgrades to the car in preparation for the Tall Pines Rally.

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Old 10-25-2003, 11:57 PM   #11
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Just finished my first prototype intake. Very cool. Welding all that thin aluminum tubing is tricky! I'll get a pic up at some point.
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Old 10-26-2003, 12:04 AM   #12
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wow, the front of the motor is funky. do you have to take that entire metall plate off to change the timing belt?
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Old 10-26-2003, 05:45 AM   #13
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do you have to take that entire metall plate off to change the timing belt?
Yes and no.

Yes, you have to take the entire aluminum cover off to get at all that stuff.

No, it doesn't have a timing belt, it has a timing chain.

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Old 10-26-2003, 07:29 AM   #14
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Torque, gotta love it.

I was looking at that stock 3.0 Dyno that you have posted on your site.



Then I was looking at a recent dyno of a stock WRX.


I just thought it was pretty interesting that you are making more torque at 2000rpm (160lbs/ft) than a stock WRX makes period (147lbs/ft). As a matter of fact, you would almost be making more torque at 1000rpm (140lbs/ft). Different dynos, different days, yeah...I know. Still....I just thought it was interesting.

It seems like you are going to have a LOT of fun rallying with that low end like that.
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Old 10-26-2003, 05:59 PM   #15
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Yes, monster low end torque is fun fun fun.

But I think that the published figures for stock WRXs are 217 footpounds torque max. The EZ30 is 210. Therefore, my guess is that the dyno graph for above is someone's actual dyno run (which would make sense given that it has a name on it .

So that means we're looking at a engine output graph (mine) vs a wheel output graph (Wendys). However, everything you said about the shape of the graph still holds true.

I just took my codriver for a ride in the car. She said, "Uh, we're going to have to get better brakes."


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Old 10-27-2003, 07:20 PM   #16
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Very cool Anders8!

What are you thinking about for brakes? What's allowed in your class?

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Old 10-27-2003, 07:33 PM   #17
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Sweet. I can't wait to see this monstrosity in action. Let us know when you run it in the rally down here in SC. I would be very interested in that.
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Old 10-27-2003, 09:28 PM   #18
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*anything* is allowed in my class. Open class is pretty free, about the only restriction is the engine has to be made by the same people who made the body.

So brakes are essentially limited by budget. However, the truth is, some uprated pads will probably do the trick. Look at it this way: in road racing, your tires have huge amounts of friction with the road. So, you can put huge amounts of friction into your brakes.

Gravel/sand, you don't have that much friction with the road. If you try to brake that hard, you lock up the brakes, which doesn't put nearly the heat into them as when they are decelerating the car.

IronMonkeyL255:
I'll be down there 11/22. Check SandblastRally.com , I'm on the entry list.



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Old 10-31-2003, 01:47 PM   #19
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For those that are following along...

I welded up the last joints on my custom intake yesterday, and built the bracket. You can see my pictures here:

Side view

Front view

I'm pretty happy with how it turned out.



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Old 10-31-2003, 02:03 PM   #20
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Bling! ;-)

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anders -- IIRC, you guys were at PBX last year... going to be there again with this beast?

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So that means we're looking at a engine output graph (mine) vs a wheel output graph (Wendys). However, everything you said about the shape of the graph still holds true.

Anders
I would've thought that I'd normally have caught something like this. What was I thinking? *holding head down in shame* Oops!
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Old 10-31-2003, 04:11 PM   #23
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whoa....your engine is sitting where the radiator fans should be.. wow talk fabrication and fitment issues.....It's a sweet ride man.
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Old 10-31-2003, 04:14 PM   #24
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anders -- IIRC, you guys were at PBX last year... going to be there again with this beast?
Yup, we were at PBX last year. It was a bit of a test run of some of the things we were getting ready, and practice for my Navvie.

Lets see, last year's PBX was rally tires, rally computer, skid plate, lights.

This year I SO want to return, however, the Sandblast rally is the same day!!!

Oh well. Next year I'll make sure they don't schedule fall Sandblast over PBX. I love TSD.

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whens the H6 conversion shop going to open up?
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