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Old 10-24-2003, 09:52 PM   #1
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So I finally put on a set of the Sti front corners on my '04 wagon a couple of days ago. Here are the results:



I should probably lead off with this warning:

'04 WRX Wagon and Sedan bumpers are not the same.
Extensive modifications were required to the corner pieces.
The end result still did not fit as intended by FHI engineers and there are still gaps.




Instructions are as follows: UPDATED BELOW

1. Start by reading jacobsen1's little write up here:

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...hreadid=406763

I've borrowed and modified one of his pics for illustration purposes, hope he doesn't mind.



2. Remove clips shown at 1

3. Cut out and sand the clip housings.
The housings are held in by 2 plastic posts shown at 2.

4. OPTIONAL STEP: Cut out the raised section shown at 3.
There is no mating hole in the bumper for this piece and it MAY create a slight interference.

5. Cut off the side of the piece shown at 4.
The amount to cut off is up to you, but I cut the entire length.
SEE BELOW for an explanation of why this must be done.

The cut edge was sanded and I added a piece of generic door moulding / edge protector I found at Canadian Tire.

6. The 3 tabs shown at 5 should be kept and matching holes cut in the bumper.
However, lining up the holes in the bumper to the tabs may be very difficult.

I had cut my tabs off, due to some errors I had done and the top is being held in by some double sided tape.
The tabs would have made it much more secure.

7. Apply strips of double sided tape to the top, left and right sides. Make sure to clean really well beforehand. I recommend using rubbing alcohol (99%) as the final cleaning step.

NOTE: For those who decide to keep the tabs I do not know which mounting sequence produces the least gap.

7. Attach the corner piece at Location C first using one of the black clips that are in the bumper already.

8. Attach at Location A in the same way.

9. Press the top part onto the bumper. Keep pressure on for 2-3 minutes.

HTH and if someone comes up with a better method please post it!

P.S. Thanks to SubaruWrex for his help!
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Old 10-24-2003, 10:32 PM   #2
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5. Cut off the side of the piece shown at 4.
The amount to cut off is up to you, but I cut the entire length.
SEE BELOW for an explanation of why did must be done.
did i miss something, or did you not explain this part? i'm assuming it is because they're too long or too short, but i'm still curious to find out why.

thanks again for all of your work!

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Old 10-24-2003, 10:42 PM   #3
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did i miss something, or did you not explain this part? i'm assuming it is because they're too long or too short, but i'm still curious to find out why.

thanks again for all of your work!

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Sorry, meant to edit that SEE below part, but for some reason I didn't have an edit option when the post was 1st created.

But to answer the question.... you don't have to cut the entire length if you want to shape that section to perfectly fit against the bumper. That way you might be able to do without the door moulding.

It seemed like a lot of work for probably minimal visual improvement.

Recommended for sculptors only in other words.

Also, should have added that Arrow B points to alternative location to Arrow C. However, I found that Arrow B produced a larger gap than Arrow C.
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Old 10-24-2003, 10:49 PM   #4
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so, obviously it does not fit around the edge of the bumper and utilize the two mounting holes in the bumper? is it too long, or too short?

thanks!

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Old 10-24-2003, 10:55 PM   #5
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so, obviously it does not fit around the edge of the bumper and utilize the two mounting holes in the bumper? is it too long, or too short?

thanks!

peter
ohhhh.... sorry, reading comprehension must a be a bit off today...

The corner piece is too short for the wagon bumper. If you look at the close up pic, top right shot... the black moulding I added is the location of the side piece on the sti corner.... did that make any sense?

AND the bottom mounting hole is in a different location.
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Old 10-24-2003, 11:01 PM   #6
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This sux.. this means no sedan kit for wagon again.. I guess the only option left for me is the JDM lip for 425$.
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Old 10-24-2003, 11:03 PM   #7
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ohhhh.... sorry, reading comprehension must a be a bit off today...

The corner piece is too short for the wagon bumper. If you look at the close up pic, top right shot... the black moulding I added is the location of the side piece on the sti corner.... did that make any sense?

AND the bottom mounting hole is in a different location.
interesting... so i wonder what the mounting holes in the bumper are for? the JDM lip?

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Old 10-24-2003, 11:08 PM   #8
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probably for this..
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Old 10-24-2003, 11:11 PM   #9
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yeah, but it doesn't explain the upper hole, used by the STi corner splitters...

plus, i think that lip is ugly.

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Old 10-25-2003, 01:50 AM   #10
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haha... just saw that you posted this!

I agree with jftam... it was a chore to get these on... the sedan was an adventure as well.. but once you've done one side, the other side will only take you 20% of the time...

but for wagons, it took some good hard work from jftam to get those to fit... but I think the finished product is very stock-like.. and a great mod... if you've got the skills and patience... =D
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Old 10-25-2003, 10:50 AM   #11
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great write-up. what would happen if you had tried to fit the rear of the splitter to completely cover the bumper? (as it does on the sedan), would the curve of the splitter not match with the bumper then? it almost looks like if you pulled the splitter back the 1/2" or so to completely cover the bumper, the gap to the right of "C" would disappear. but then again I'm sure you tried that and it didn't fit or something. maybe "A" then doesn't line up?

I assume that using mounting clips #1 would require drilling into the bumper. even with the hassle of modification, I still think it looks good...

If I wanted a perfect fit, I guess I'd have to go with JDM wagon lip (might look better on a black wagon). but the $300 difference might be worth the little gap, and less than perfect fit (probably less noticable on black wagon).
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Old 10-25-2003, 03:13 PM   #12
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great write-up. what would happen if you had tried to fit the rear of the splitter to completely cover the bumper? (as it does on the sedan), would the curve of the splitter not match with the bumper then?
Yup the curvature is wrong. I tried the fit the rear of the splitter 1st, before any cutting, but NONE of the holes on the bottom would line up to allow me to clip it in.

Also, I think the wheel well would look slightly unbalance if you put the splitter on without cutting.

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it almost looks like if you pulled the splitter back the 1/2" or so to completely cover the bumper, the gap to the right of "C" would disappear. but then again I'm sure you tried that and it didn't fit or something. maybe "A" then doesn't line up?
Yup, that's exactly the problem. If the front gap is a problem, I guess you could drill matching holes on the bottom of the splitter and bumper.

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I assume that using mounting clips #1 would require drilling into the bumper. even with the hassle of modification, I still think it looks good...
Actually the housings at 2 have matching recesses on the STi bumper. Not removing the housing creates a 1/4" gap on that edge.... as SubaruWrex found out to his frustration (we can laugh about that now)

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If I wanted a perfect fit, I guess I'd have to go with JDM wagon lip (might look better on a black wagon). but the $300 difference might be worth the little gap, and less than perfect fit (probably less noticable on black wagon). [/b]
I've seen JDM lips on sedans and if the shape is similar, then the lips give the car a slight "snow plow" look. I'm not sure the lips are similar, but I'm not spending USD$450 to find out.

Yup, the extra $300 isn't worth it IMO for a non-show car and it's unnoticable unless you're really looking for the difference.
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Old 10-27-2003, 07:38 PM   #13
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Update

So the top of the splitter came off on one side over the weekend and I decided to start from scratch on how to mount the darn things on.

I think I may have found a better way, as I now have no gap in the front and even less gap in the back.

Only problem is that there is no more clip at A and it's being held on by some doublesided tape for now. Feels REAL solid though, even with just the tape.

Here's what I did:

1. Remove clip at A and C

2. Remove all double sided tape

3. With rubbing alcohol, thoroughly clean gap on bumper shown in arrows below.

4. Also clean mating surface on Sti splitter.

5. Clean the area on the Sti splitter where the clip at A would have gone. Apply double-sided tape to this area on the splitter, but keep the backing on to be removed later.

NOTE: a double sided tape with a foam substrate is highly recommended... with as strong an adhesive as possible of course

6. Clean the mating surface underneath the bumper.

7. Apply double sided tape into the gap shown below with the arrows. Once again, do not remove backing yet.

IMO, it's more important to have tape in the gap than to have it on the sides.

8. Attach clip at B.

9. Check the fit of the splitter and see how you would fit the top into the gap.

10. Remove backing from tape at the gap and attach the top

11. Continue to apply pressure for 2-3 minutes.

12. Remove backing at A and press together.

If you had kept the tabs on the splitter, you can probably skip steps 7 to 11.

Hope this helps. Now I just have to find a way to mechanically attach the bumper and splitter at A.... just not very comfortable with only double sided tape there even though it seems to be holding extremely well.

The results:
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Old 10-27-2003, 07:47 PM   #14
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nice. looks better, especially if you got rid of the gap in the front... keep us posted on the details! I can't wait to do this to my wagon (which is on order cause I wanted no options). any day now... BTW, where did you get the UK17s? looks great.
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Old 10-27-2003, 08:05 PM   #15
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nice. looks better, especially if you got rid of the gap in the front... keep us posted on the details! I can't wait to do this to my wagon (which is on order cause I wanted no options). any day now... BTW, where did you get the UK17s? looks great.
Edited for instructions above.

My UK17's are actually used rims from a JDM Legacy GT-B.

I bought them off Benjamin Tang (NASIOC member and local Vancouver guy) when he upgraded to 18" Advan RG's (the lucky bastard )

I believe www.vividracing.com sells used sets. They come in three colours if I'm not mistaken, gold, bright silver, and anthracite (grey with a bronze tint). Mine are anthracite... trying not to attract too much attention... he says while driving a bright blue car
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Old 10-27-2003, 09:50 PM   #16
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I have a question , why wouldn`t you have bought the metal brackets that are what those things are supposed to held on with, and the clips and hardware that also help with the installation . Am I safe in guessing that the majority of those are held on with doublesided tape !!! I`m not doubting that the bumper covers "might" be slightly different from the sedan , I will double check that and get back to you . But the brackets are made to evenly distribute the weight of the spoilers and evenly distribute the pressure from the wind through the thicker sturdier bumper cover while pulling the gap out . I also bought them to install on my 04 wrx , I was gonna pull the front cover off and work on it on couple of saw horses. the top tabs need three slits drilled in the groove, and then you drill the other 3 or 4 holes for the side clips install the metal support brackets, install all the clips on the backside and reinstall the front cover .But I`m picking up my STI tommoro . If I can give you some advise , Try asking a subaru parts guy how they are held on a STI , they can print you a picture with all the bracketry and all the clips before you go chopping mounting points to doubleside tape the things on your ride man . Sorry if this rude or raggy , didn`t want it to sound that way
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Old 10-28-2003, 02:22 PM   #17
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I have a question , why wouldn`t you have bought the metal brackets that are what those things are supposed to held on with, and the clips and hardware that also help with the installation.
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But the brackets are made to evenly distribute the weight of the spoilers and evenly distribute the pressure from the wind through the thicker sturdier bumper cover while pulling the gap out.
I bought them from a local Subie dealer and specifically asked for all mounting hardware. They did not include the metal brackets. I doubt I would have used them regardless. I wouldn't want to cut SIX 1" x 1/2" holes in my bumper.

I'll be honest, I'm doing this for cosmetic purposes only. I'm not going to take my car to the track, so the highest speed the cover might see is 140 kph (88 mph). With the gap in the front now eliminated and once I have an anchor at point A, I'll feel pretty secure.

As for the clips, they are not needed unless you plan on drilling holes in the bottom of the bumper. The wagons come with 3 clips per side already and at most you might be able to use 2 of them.

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Am I safe in guessing that the majority of those are held on with doublesided tape !!!
I'm not completely happy with the doublesided tape either, but at this point I'm not ready to do something permanent to the covers like using epoxy or drilling holes for clips.

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I`m not doubting that the bumper covers "might" be slightly different from the sedan , I will double check that and get back to you .
As someone who tried to fit the covers on without modifying them, I can tell you that they DO NOT fit.

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<snip> But I`m picking up my STI tommoro.
Good luck with the new ride. If want to swap your 6-speed for my much better stock 5-speed let me know Heck might as well throw in that gas guzzler 2.5L engine as well.

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If I can give you some advise , Try asking a subaru parts guy how they are held on a STI , they can print you a picture with all the bracketry and all the clips before you go chopping mounting points to doubleside tape the things on your ride man . Sorry if this rude or raggy , didn`t want it to sound that way [/b]
As long as it's not the parts guy at www.subaruwrxparts.com (a web store for a Subie dealer on the east coast) who told me " only difference in sedan and wagon bumpers will be the middle section by the grille ". I guess he forgot to mention that I'd be missing 2 clip mounting points on the bottom and one of the mounting points on the rear is in a totally different location

Oh well, i could've returned the covers when I found out they didn't fit, but I thought "what the heck... it'll be different"
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I was just gonna ask you if you wanted to swap me trannys
and while we were at it, it`s kinda bad on gas can you swap the engine out too . Either way your mods make you ride look even better . All you need is a set of gold bbs STI wheels for it and an STI hood scoop , make it one- off Canadian model STI wagon !! I bought a STI scoop from the dealer for my old 04 wrx for $120.00 unpainted . But please don`t install it with doublesided tape . That would look BADD on a wrb wagon !! I did check with my buddy that works Suby parts in Nashua and you were correct on the covers being different from the sedan to the wagon , Sorry for questioning you. The illistration is the same the just have different part #`s for all 4 models . Now that I think about it a Canadian model STI wagon would be really cool !! Good Luck
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Sorry for bringing this post back up from the dead, but is it possible to swap an STi or Sedan bumper cover onto a wagon to have the side splitters fit? It might seem a little out there, but i'm sure a cheap used bumper cover would eventually surface somewhere out there.
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Nice find. Thanks! That is one of the nicest wagons i've seen to date.
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guess he did the full front from a sedan..including bumper and fenders

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1. Start by reading jacobsen1's little write up here:

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...hreadid=406763

I've borrowed and modified one of his pics for illustration purposes, hope he doesn't mind.

No problem at all! Do you have any better shots of the finished product? I want to see how it came out. Glad to be of some assistance.

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Old 05-28-2004, 07:08 PM   #24
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No problem at all! Do you have any better shots of the finished product? I want to see how it came out. Glad to be of some assistance.

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Posted elsewhere in the forums:

Added Sti fog covers.





Not sure if these are any better. For bandwidth reasons, I don't want to post pics that are too big.

We've got a big meet coming up tomorrow in Vancouver, so I'll take a few more pics then. Any requests?
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Old 12-28-2004, 01:00 PM   #25
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has anyone else tried putting the splitters on their wagon?

i saw this car on clubwrx.net and it seems like they went on fine...
http://www.clubwrx.net/forums/showthread.php?t=65278
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