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Old 04-06-2004, 07:38 PM   #1
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Why the hell do so many of you guys spend like $20K on a car, $3K on turbos and engine stuff, $1000+ on suspension, and get cheap Rota or other wheels?

I realize not everyone splurges on rims, but come on.....ROTA IS NOT THE GOLD STANDARD! Sube-doods are worse than Honda-**** about this knockoff wheel stuff.....
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Old 04-06-2004, 07:54 PM   #2
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Why the hell do so many of you guys spend like $20K on a car, $3K on turbos and engine stuff, $1000+ on suspension, and get cheap Rota or other wheels?

I realize not everyone splurges on rims, but come on.....ROTA IS NOT THE GOLD STANDARD! Sube-doods are worse than Honda-**** about this knockoff wheel stuff.....
Wow...what's your problem?? Did you have a bad Rota experience?? What kind of wheels do YOU have? What kind of car do YOU drive? You know...Subarus aren't the "gold standard" either. Why are we all cheap? Why don't we all buy Porsches??? Why did you even start this thread?????

This thread should be deleted. Waste of time.
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Old 04-06-2004, 07:56 PM   #3
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Please... I've dropped the $500+ per wheel for the fancy brand name ones before.

They bent, scratched, warped, cracked, rode, and (most importantly) looked just like the cheapies.

Why pay more?
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Old 04-06-2004, 08:00 PM   #4
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I hear Rota's are actually pretty good wheels. I wouldn't buy them, but I hear good stuff about them. I'll stick with my 5Zigen FN01R-C's.
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Old 04-06-2004, 08:05 PM   #5
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i have yet to have a bad experience with rota wheels

i had the subzero's, put them thru hell and back a few times

and had nothing to complain about.

i had another set on a civic, launched the car and landed on pavement (azenis tires @ 44psi) they never bend or cracked

so stop being a snoby c***t and shut up

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Old 04-06-2004, 08:06 PM   #6
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because we were lead to believe they were a good wheel at a good price...we were wrong...
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Old 04-06-2004, 08:22 PM   #7
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because we were lead to believe they were a good wheel at a good price...we were wrong...
Give me a break. You had a slightly bent rim, Rota offered you a free replacement, you turned them down, and now you're bad-mouthing them?

You realize that no other wheel manufacturer would ever offer that, right? And that even the top-name brands can bend, warp, and crack? (something I know from experience).

Idiot.
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Old 04-06-2004, 08:33 PM   #8
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Wheels are wheels.

If they look good, fit properly, aren't heavy as crap, are straight, and hold up to abuse, then there's nothing wrong with any brand matching that at a low price.

See: Your stock WRX wheels.

Anyone would much rather have a nice set of lightweight forged rims than Rotas.

What works, works. My wheels work, weigh 17.5lbs, look good, and have stood up to nasty potholes and autocrossing. Case closed.
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Old 04-06-2004, 08:36 PM   #9
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Give me a break. You had a slightly bent rim, Rota offered you a free replacement, you turned them down, and now you're bad-mouthing them?

You realize that no other wheel manufacturer would ever offer that, right? And that even the top-name brands can bend, warp, and crack? (something I know from experience).

Idiot.
try again...what I got was a crappy attitude...
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Old 04-06-2004, 08:40 PM   #10
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try again...what I got was a crappy attitude...
That's not what I read in your very own thread.

Anyway, pay the $$$ and get other wheels. You'll find they're just the same.

There's a rule about wheels (which someone else came up with)...

1. Cheap
2. Light
3. Strong

Choose 2
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Old 04-06-2004, 08:44 PM   #11
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Who cares? I don't have issues with the price range of products that people buy for their cars... After all, it's their car.

I purchased mine because they were an inexpensive option for use with snow tires.

-Mike-
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Old 04-06-2004, 08:49 PM   #12
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That's not what I read in your very own thread.

Anyway, pay the $$$ and get other wheels. You'll find they're just the same.

There's a rule about wheels (which someone else came up with)...

1. Cheap
2. Light
3. Strong

Choose 2
I knew I should not have edited my thread...the Kim gentleman I was asked to call was nothing short of a rude a hole. I believe I used the comparison or keeping him from a date with the toilet....

And as for the 1,2,3 pick 2...that is so right in so many things....turns out I was foolish to ever believe it wasn't.
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Old 04-06-2004, 09:17 PM   #13
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What a crock of crap.

Bunch of silly girls whining about Rota. Unbelieveable.

Wheels DO bend. They DO break. Because they get used.....LOTS of them get driven MANY miles(and kilometers) on EVERY DAY.....So guess what....there are going to be broken ones.

Bryan....I think you are the whiniest of the bunch, here.
I think your bad attitude was given right back to you, and you don't like it. Too bad. Get over it. ****.
Turning down a free replacement...????
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Old 04-06-2004, 09:25 PM   #14
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Rota rocks! I have the Attacks with polished lip. They are lighter than stock and look exactly like the thousands of dollar Volks. Dont get me wrong, Volks are awesome. But just like silver04 said. If we could all afford expensive rims and such, we all would be driving Porsche's. As for mrdisablity, go buy yourself some 4 thousand dollar rims...and dont come crying around here when you bend or crack them!

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Old 04-06-2004, 09:37 PM   #15
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Rotas are awesome! I've bent my share of wheels, but when I bend a rota it only costs me 100 and change to replace.
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Old 04-06-2004, 09:39 PM   #16
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I've handled many a set of rims.

You couldn't pay me to come up with a reason why the Rotas aren't as good as some of the big names.

They are simply a great wheel for a great price.


Unlike many other knock-offs out there in this world that are sub-standard to the original, Rota actually comes thru with a quality that matches the best on the market.


If you need the name brand to boost your ego than thats your own buisness. I make a living off those many egos out there

But maybe the people have the money to do those other upgrades you speak of that cost a fortune, because they're wise and saved money by buying a set
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Old 04-06-2004, 09:45 PM   #17
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Turning down a free replacement...????
Where is this mythical free replacement you speak of? I would have been happy with buying some at dealer cost!!!!

THIS IS NOT WHAT I WAS OFFERED....I WAS GREETED BY SOMEONE THAT COULD NOT EVEN TAKE THE TIME OUT OF HIS BUSY SCHEDULE WITH THE PORTA-JON TO HAVE A DECENT CONVERSATION WITH ME!!!
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Old 04-06-2004, 10:14 PM   #18
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Why don't you get on my case, too?

My car is sporting TechnoMagnesio Italian wheels. Prodrive knock-off's. And guess what! I'm the third owner of the wheels. No scratches, rashes, bends...and yep...they're kinda light.

I don't really care much for what rota produces...don't like the designs.

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Old 04-06-2004, 10:17 PM   #19
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Yeah, well even some of us with Porsches use Rotas.

I've bent and broken many wheels over the years. Cheap wheels, expensive wheels, street wheels and rally wheels.

Wheels aren't jewelry or designer accessories. Rather, they're a disposable wear item, like the tires that you wrap around them. They sit 4" from the ground and take a huge amount of abuse. Unless you only drive up and down some nice smooth boulevard in CA or FL, you WILL bend wheels. It may take a month or a year or five years, but it will happen.

I've had the privilege of sending a shattered wheel back to a major manufacturer, only to have them say "tough luck".

Rota is the only wheel manufacturer who I've ever seen stand so publicly behind their products. Maybe they'll help Bryan out, maybe they won't, depending on the circumstances. I'm sure they won't replace a wheel every time someone drives through a pothole too fast. By the standards of their competitors, they don't owe anyone anything. Yet here they are, jumping in whenever anyone has a concern or complaint.

Even if they can't help you out in your specific situation, Bryan, how about you ease off a little bit on trashing them, huh?
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Old 04-06-2004, 10:21 PM   #20
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This thread should be deleted. Waste of time.
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Old 04-06-2004, 10:24 PM   #21
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I guess what really irks me about this is how rude they guy was I spoke with....but don't ask someone to call you and then be an a-hole to them...

And with that I will take Bogerts' advice...I have said my peace...best of luck...

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Old 04-06-2004, 10:32 PM   #22
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Why don't you get on my case, too?

My car is sporting TechnoMagnesio Italian wheels. Prodrive knock-off's. And guess what! I'm the third owner of the wheels. No scratches, rashes, bends...and yep...they're kinda light. I don't really care much for what rota produces...don't like the designs.
Why would I get on your case? I don't have a problem with knock off designs. If you are happy with the rim that works for me.

I have never heard anything bad about technoMagnesio rims...

edit: Sorry meant to put this before my previous post. good night...
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Old 04-07-2004, 01:09 AM   #23
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Love my black Downshifts. I sold a set of OZ Superleggeras for these instead. You REALLY think spending $2000 on a set of wheels for a $25,000 car is a good idea? hehe, whatever man. I could have afforded any wheel you can think of that would fit the car. But why? I could care less about coming on here and impressing you guys, sorry. If I'm gonna curb a wheel I'd rather do it to one I can replace for ~$150 and source easily. I'm not ripping on anyone who has dropped the cash on expensive wheels, they all look beautiful in the pics I've seen, but I just can't justify it personally. Why don't you spend more time worrying about your ride rather than everyone else's...?
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Old 04-07-2004, 04:42 AM   #24
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I knew this would get some of you all hot and bothered.

This basically started with the Honda guys getting Mugen and Spoon fakes from Rota, and it has really infected the Subaru community.....

I saw a thread on this board of a guy with a built motor/turbo setup, body parts, even wilwood brakes, and sporting some ROTAS! I mean, come on....you guys are not cheap. It is such a cop-out on a reasoning to buy these wheels. You are buying them because you all think they are cool.

Prodrive is cool.

Rays is cool.

Racing Hart is cool....coolish anyway.

Spoon and Mugen are cool.

All the companies that Rota copies are cool. Buy why is copying and undercuttging cool?


BTW, the Phillippines is one of the next cheap labor/manufacturing hotbeds, where all your precious Rotas are made.


(I have CE28Ns by the way.....someone asked.....)
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This basically started with the Honda guys getting Mugen and Spoon fakes from Rota, and it has really infected the Subaru community.....
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I saw a thread on this board of a guy with a built motor/turbo setup, body parts, even wilwood brakes, and sporting some ROTAS!
I'll leave these two statements to stand on their own. You seem to have some sort of issue with Rota. What is it?

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All the companies that Rota copies are cool. Buy why is copying and undercuttging cool?
Is this your issue? Please explain how Rota is 'copying' and 'undercutting', and who you feel they are harming by their supposed actions.

Do you have the same issue with Kumho Tires, and Falken? After all, they both produce round black objects that appear to 'copy' and 'undercut' companies like Goodyear.

Please illuminate us on how competition and choice in the marketplace is bad.
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