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Old 06-21-2004, 08:02 PM   #51
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I thought the MOMO steering wheel and alloy pedals were cool.. I liked the big tachometer and the boost guage. I was so focused on those things I didn't really look at the other interior details
Ahh.. to be 17 again

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Then you, my friend have almost zero basis for comparison when bashing a soob.. Tell your mommy to buy you something else.
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Old 06-21-2004, 08:03 PM   #52
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Now it seems my friends car is faster, is easier to drive, has more features looks prettier and I'm just upset.

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There's your problem. It 'seems'. Not "It is". And you know your car is capable of so much more too.. the numbers aren't lying. the people here aren't lying.

The problem is in the driver.

You want to get a good handle on your car?

http://www.scca.org and look up your region for Solo (Solo-II - Auto-x) and go and attend an event.

Learn how to drive your car in an environmnet that is not only safe, but where you can puch the limits of your car, but have instructors show you how to drive it faster!

Edit: here's your region's auto-x page: http://solo.wdcr-scca.org/

Their next event is July 11. There's other Subaru people there that will help you too.... you just need to ask.

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Old 06-21-2004, 08:04 PM   #53
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I think the fun is just starting.

I like to think of my WRX wagon (which is problem free, including the tranny, paint and interior) as an S4 wagon minus the leather and power do dads (which I don't care about.) And it hauls ass and will definitely push you back into your seat and terrify your passengers. VW envy? Come on dude. Learn to drive it correctly and maybe put some money into better tires, a rear sway and strut bar, and a reflash. Take pleasure in the humbling of all manners of more expensive kraut cruisers. I do.
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Old 06-21-2004, 08:06 PM   #54
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how old are ya?

and you really bought a car to show up your friends??

i think you need to learn to drive and learn to research..

also, it wouldnt hurt to get a mind of your own.

your rex could easily burn the gti and put your passengers back in their seats.

seriously, meet up with some local suby guys in your area and start learnin.

good luck bro. sucks to see someone not happy with a purchase with that many $$ signs..
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Old 06-21-2004, 08:07 PM   #55
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Give the guy a break. It is difficult to ascertain the quality of a car from a test drive and if people on this forum are intolerant of "negative" opinions then this forum is useless for people researching Subarus.

We all know the WRX transmission is not the best in the world. When I test drove the STi the biggest difference I found on a simple test drive was just how much better that 6-speed is. I have been driving manuals all my driving life and the WRX trans does require more skill and concentration than any other that I have driven.

The paint is way too thin and easily chips. No one can deny this.



so his aim is ultimately to help those who may end up in a similiar situation. What is wrong with that?

As for the responses:

You ever hear of ad hominum ?

so kind...

how generous of you....

last I knew this was a forum for owners and would-be owners.

The only reason I can see for this hostile response is that asbWRX04 must have touched a nerve and there must be some truth to his statements.
thanks man, i really appreciate you sticking up for me!!!!

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Old 06-21-2004, 08:10 PM   #56
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thanks man, i really appreciate you sticking up for me!!!!

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So are you 17 or 16?
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Old 06-21-2004, 08:11 PM   #57
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BTW because people are asking..

I'm 25 and I bought this car with my own money. It's my first car I bought.

Also, I'm not incredibly disappointed after reading some of these posts I guess I am taking more pride in my car.

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Old 06-21-2004, 08:11 PM   #58
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Old 06-21-2004, 08:12 PM   #59
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1. Do yer bitchin in the tech forum

2. Don't expect sypmathy from OT

3. I though you were leaving

4. Sticking up for you?
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Old 06-21-2004, 08:14 PM   #60
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1. Do yer bitchin in the tech forum

2. Don't expect sypmathy from OT

3. I though you were leaving

4. Sticking up for you?

Post was moved from General to OT by the powers that be...
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Old 06-21-2004, 08:16 PM   #61
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Well you are right I should of researched and test drove more cars. I just thought the WRX was the hands down winner.
I didn't know that the paint and tranny was bad when I bought it. I didn't know about NASIOC when I bought it..
Did I know about the interior quality being not as good? Somewhat.. I thought the MOMO steering wheel and alloy pedals were cool.. I liked the big tachometer and the boost guage. I was so focused on those things I didn't really look at the other interior details. I didn't play the stereo either.
I didn't know the body was tinny cuz I didn't open and shut the door repeatedly..
Bottom line is it was a spontaneous buy.. but I researched everything ON PAPER on paper the WRX looks awesome hands down winner..
I was looking at GTI's, WRX's, Mini-s's, RSX-S, and celica GT-S.. and on paper the WRX is the hands down winner..
So, the first thing I test drove was the WRX.. I got caught up in it, and I bought it. I also wanted something that would be "better" than my friends 20th anniv. edition GTI. Something faster, something with extra features like AWD even though it may not have all the bells and whistles but has more power and AWD. I didn't think about or know about loss of power to the drivetrain. I didn't know about the lack of low end torque because I was pushing it so hard during the test drive never got a chance to really feel the lack of low end cuz I was on the mid to high end throughout the test drive.
I just look at my friends GTI with 18" rims, lowered suspension, 6 speed transmission, beautiful sounding Monsoon sound system, Recaro seats, blue luminscent gauges and I sit in the passenger seat and I am pushed back into my seat in every single gear! No doubt he is a better driver than me and I have only been driving stick for 3 months. But I felt like I just had to express the dissappointment in what I thought I was getting power wise what I thought would make up for the lack of some other interior/exterior luxuries.. Now it seems my friends car is faster, is easier to drive, has more features looks prettier and I'm just upset.

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ok, I have been staying out of this, biting my tongue but gimme a break...

lack of low end? ya for about half a second. Learn to drive then come back and talk.

body is tinny? ya it sounds hollow and the doors are nice and light but have you seen the safety specs? ya compare those to your almighty GTI.

AWD > 2WD...if you would actually drive your car and learn it, you would see the error of your ways. I will NEVER drive any car that does not have AWD because I have been spoiled. I tried driving some 2WD cars lately and notice the lack of the stickyness (besides the modded ones) and just absolutly love everything about it. I mean come on...go drive it in the rain or take it in the canyons...actually dont do either of those as you will crash it and make my insurance raise.

your buddies GTI feels faster cause of the torque. Let someone drive your wrx that can drive and then tell me what you think.

The paint is thin, I do agree.

The transmission is fine. Everyone that complains about it are morons that cannot drive. If you look around you will find some threads about how a guy lost his lawsuit to subaru cause he thought the transmission was bad. Nope, he cant drive for ****.

The GTI might be easier to drive, I agree. The learning curve is steeper on a WRX but the benefits outnumber everything.

If you spent 2000 dollars on a stereo maybe you do belong in a GTI or maybe a Civic. Go check out those cars, I hear you can get them with a fat THX sound system




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Old 06-21-2004, 08:18 PM   #62
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everyone needs to chill...he was the voice of dissent. while not undeserving, some of the responses posted so far are a discredit to NASIOC.
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Old 06-21-2004, 08:20 PM   #63
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everyone needs to chill...he was the voice of dissent. while not undeserving, some of the responses posted so far are a discredit to NASIOC.
You mean we can't like .. flame him and call him a noob and stuff?

... :sigh:
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Old 06-21-2004, 08:23 PM   #64
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everyone needs to chill...he was the voice of dissent. while not undeserving, some of the responses posted so far are a discredit to NASIOC.
welcome to OT

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Old 06-21-2004, 08:23 PM   #65
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Well maybe you guys are right then..
Maybe I just don't know how to drive.. But I'm a lot better after 3 months.. pretty smooth I think as smooth as you can be with this car.. I feel pushed back into my seat in 2nd if I floor it but not in any other gear. I feel pushed into my seat in almost every gear in my friends GTI the 1.8T is a very torquey engine. If I got chipped and a TBE maybe that would be different.. But then I wouldn't have a warranty..

Another thing is after only 4000 miles on the car and 3 months old my turbo seems to be becoming louder (the spooling sound seems to be more noticable) and in 5th gear I hear some sort of faint whining sound (not turbo spool).
This alone upset me and I'm gonna have to have the dealer check it out.

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Old 06-21-2004, 08:23 PM   #66
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amrik, my best friend owns a 2003 VW GTI 1.8T with an intake, BOV, and boost controller.... his older brother just bought a stock 2004 WRX and my other friend has a 2002 WRX with an up-pipe, downpipe and BOV.... they race around all the time, and the wrx's beat up on my friends GTI, not out of the water, but they are easily faster off the line and down the stretch, and of course would win around the bends, so i dont know what your talking about
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Old 06-21-2004, 08:31 PM   #67
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I agree with a lot of the posts here. Don't blame the car for your inability to drive it properly.

Also... one thing that got me was, you didn't want to lose money on getting selling the car so soon after buying it, but instead you blow $2k on a stereo? Couldn't you have sucked up that loss and have gotten a car you would've really liked?

Anyway... the grass is always greener. When you get another car, your friend will always say something that will top your car. Live with it.

Glad you decided to stick with the car. It does have a steep learning curve, but when you and your car finally get along, you'll be enjoying every minute you drive it.

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Old 06-21-2004, 08:31 PM   #68
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HA HA HA HA this guy is a tool. A WRX would own a GTI stock for stock and mod for mod, no question about it!

It's your own damn fault dude, you should have researched more (already said a million times). This is what you get for just trying to jump on a bandwagon.

I have NEVER had a problem with my tranny, in fact it shift's very smooth with 16K miles and stock fluid. Three words for you...

LEARN TO DRIVE.

The WRX is a great car for the money. Practicality, power and comfort. Some are compromised for others.

$2,000 on stereo?!?! I spent about $500 and it sounds better than ANY stock VW sound system.

Is the interior/exterior/performance any less than it was when you took it for a test drive? That's what I thought.

On a different note... my car is almost rattle free and the paint is in GREAT condition considering I drive the highway everyday. I am so surprised with the reputation of Subaru's paint. The reliablity is great. Exterior quality isn't awesome but find a car with EVERYTHING the WRX offers (which I want) for $24K.

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amrik, my best friend owns a 2003 VW GTI 1.8T with an intake, BOV, and boost controller.... his older brother just bought a stock 2004 WRX and my other friend has a 2002 WRX with an up-pipe, downpipe and BOV.... they race around all the time, and the wrx's beat up on my friends GTI, not out of the water, but they are easily faster off the line and down the stretch, and of course would win around the bends, so i dont know what your talking about
my buddies in my office all have VW's. I always got **** from them about having a trendy car blah blah. One has a GTI one has a Jetta and they both have it chipped and all the basic VW stuff that makes them GOD!!!

So I got fed up one day bet them both 100 bucks and we went to LACR.

I KILLED them both 3 times in a row. Thats when my car was stock too.

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youve been here for 3 months and say "chipped"

check into the good engine management and tuning capabilities of the WRX..

i really think its strictly that youre just frustrated.

for the third time i say, find local scoobys and meet up and get to really know the car inside and out.

i think you will change your mind and put your buddys GTI to shame.
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Well maybe you guys are right then..
Maybe I just don't know how to drive.. But I'm a lot better after 3 months.. pretty smooth I think as smooth as you can be with this car.. I feel pushed back into my seat in 2nd if I floor it but not in any other gear. I feel pushed into my seat in almost every gear in my friends GTI the 1.8T is a very torquey engine. If I got chipped and a TBE maybe that would be different.. But then I wouldn't have a warranty..

Another thing is after only 4000 miles on the car and 3 months old my turbo seems to be becoming louder (the spooling sound seems to be more noticable) and in 5th gear I hear some sort of faint whining sound (not turbo spool).
This alone upset me and I'm gonna have to have the dealer check it out.

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The car will always feel faster sitting in the passenger seat. When you're driving, you're expecting the car to push you against the seat.
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Old 06-21-2004, 08:35 PM   #72
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Well maybe you guys are right then..
Maybe I just don't know how to drive.. But I'm a lot better after 3 months.. pretty smooth I think as smooth as you can be with this car.. I feel pushed back into my seat in 2nd if I floor it but not in any other gear. I feel pushed into my seat in almost every gear in my friends GTI the 1.8T is a very torquey engine. If I got chipped and a TBE maybe that would be different.. But then I wouldn't have a warranty..

Another thing is after only 4000 miles on the car and 3 months old my turbo seems to be becoming louder (the spooling sound seems to be more noticable) and in 5th gear I hear some sort of faint whining sound (not turbo spool).
This alone upset me and I'm gonna have to have the dealer check it out.

AmRik.
It took me almost a year to truely be smooth in my car (my first stick) and I still mess it up sometimes. The WRX is a great car and pretty easy to take to 80% or so. But to squeeze the extra performance out of it requires a pretty good driver IMHO. Take KCs advice and get out to an auto-x. Try and drive your WRX and your friends GTi there. See which is faster. I have no doubt it will be your WRX. BTW ALL stock stereos suck.
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It took me almost a year to truely be smooth in my car (my first stick) and I still mess it up sometimes. The WRX is a great car and pretty easy to take to 80% or so. But to squeeze the extra performance out of it requires a pretty good driver IMHO. Take KCs advice and get out to an auto-x. Try and drive your WRX and your friends GTi there. See which is faster. I have no doubt it will be your WRX. BTW ALL stock stereos suck.
ex-act-ly.

Give it time... I had trouble too.... but now I am pretty good.. YES the 1st to 2nd shift gets easier with time and practice!

Once you learn the car, it's so much more fun!

Get a re-flash or set a boost controller real low (for quicker boost and more in 1-2) and you will have FUN!
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Another thing is after only 4000 miles on the car and 3 months old my turbo seems to be becoming louder (the spooling sound seems to be more noticable) and in 5th gear I hear some sort of faint whining sound (not turbo spool).
This alone upset me and I'm gonna have to have the dealer check it out.
I could hear my turbo more and more over the first 10K miles or so, then it leveled out. A lot of folks hack their intake silencer so that they can make the turbo spool noise even louder. I have a slight "whine" while cruising in 5th gear, I always assumed it was the turbo. FWIW, that noise has remained constant over ~50K miles. Both these issues can be fixed by turning up that nice stereo! Sorry, I couldn't resist.

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Another thing is after only 4000 miles on the car and 3 months old my turbo seems to be becoming louder (the spooling sound seems to be more noticable) and in 5th gear I hear some sort of faint whining sound (not turbo spool).
This alone upset me and I'm gonna have to have the dealer check it out.

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Wow....that's...wow.... Dude, did you do ANY research before buying this car? You're concerned about the natural turbo spool and drivetrain whine?
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I just look at my friends GTI with 18" rims, lowered suspension, 6 speed transmission, beautiful sounding Monsoon sound system, Recaro seats, blue luminscent gauges and I sit in the passenger seat and I am pushed back into my seat in every single gear! No doubt he is a better driver than me and I have only been driving stick for 3 months. But I felt like I just had to express the dissappointment in what I thought I was getting power wise what I thought would make up for the lack of some other interior/exterior luxuries.. Now it seems my friends car is faster, is easier to drive, has more features looks prettier and I'm just upset.

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If your friend's GTI feels faster rolling around on 18" wheels, you seriously need to get your butt dyno recalibrated. Those alone probably take half a second off his 0-60 time. Your WRX should be able to eat that car alive if you learn how to drive it properly. AWD isn't the easiest thing to learn how to launch without abusing it, but once you get past bogging in 1st gear, you should pull on him continuously.
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I feel pushed back into my seat in 2nd if I floor it but not in any other gear.
Not even in 1st
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Well, I just wanted to say I'm sorry if I offended anybody here. I know this is a Subaru enthusiast site. I honestly didn't think I would be flamed to the point my computer caught on fire. But hey, live and learn..
I think I'll stay with my WRX but next time I buy a car I will make sure to do more than internet/magazine research and actually get in and drive a bunch of cars. Anyways, at least some of you are trying to give me honest advice and I thank you for that. I hope you all don't hate me too much..

AmRik.

I too came from the VW camp. I was WAY more into vw's than Subarus... I love my Subaru now. Do some research and learn about the car. Crawl underneat it some time... you'll be amazed at all the little refinements that you cannot see from above, like braces here and there, even braces behind the front fenders. It is a very well built and strong car. I do agree about the interior... but all Japanese car's interiors are a bit delicate. They scratch easily, but hey. they won't warp and crack and creek and start to smell like VW interiors.

And the drivetrain, just try to shift a bit smoother. There are alot of parts the engine has to turn, you can't drive it like it's an RC car.

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Not even in 1st
Seriously.... I still get a rush off just leaving a light normal and flooring it in 1st then shifting to 2nd letting the turbo build and THEN getting PUSHED into my seat... shift to third.... ANOTHER GOOD PUSH!....

95% of your problem is you can't drive dude.
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Oh BTW not all stock stereos suck, the Monsoon sound system in his car is very impressive 6.5" components in the front and the back.
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i like how he says VW's have good built quality. if i'm not mistaken VW's have a track record of problems in their cars only better than hummer...OF ALL MANUFACTURERS.
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Seriously.... I still get a rush off just leaving a light normal and flooring it in 1st then shifting to 2nd letting the turbo build and THEN getting PUSHED into my seat... shift to third.... ANOTHER GOOD PUSH!....

95% of your problem is you can't drive dude.

Well said, I was just too lazy to type it all.
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i like how he says VW's have good built quality. if i'm not mistaken VW's have a track record of problems in their cars only better than hummer...OF ALL MANUFACTURERS.
VW was around last place.


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by Jens Meiners

Automotive News Europe- MUNICH, Germany- German drivers rank Mercedes-Benz and Volkswagen among the three worst brands in customer satisfaction.

The 38,454 members of the ADAC, Germany's largest automotive club, who responded to the latest semiannual survey put Volkswagen as No. 31 and Mercedes as No. 2 among 33 brands on overall customer satisfaction. Only Land Rover was worse.

But if satisfaction with service is eliminated from satisfaction with their vehicle, German drivers ranked Mercedes-Benz last among all brands.

German brands generally did poorly in the rankings. Ford was No. 21, Audi was No. 26, followed by Opel at No. 27 and Smart No. 29. The exceptions were No. 8 Porsche and BMW at No. 11.

Japanese brands captured the top seven rankings, led by Toyota, Subaru , and Honda.

Even the low-priced Korean brands finished higher as a group than the European-based brands.

Customer satisfaction makes up only 10 percent of the final grade on the survey, which evaluated the brands on factors including financial strength and technical innovation.

ADAC spokesman Maximilian Maurer said much of the driver dissatisfaction was related to electronics.

"While customers tend to understand mechanical problems, taking into account the wear and sometimes abusive driving, they don't easily put up with electronic malfunctions."

What The Germans Like
Brands with the highest customer satisfaction

1. Toyota
2. Subaru
3. Honda
4. Mazda
5. Nissan
6. Mitsubishi
7. Suzuki
8. Porsche
9. Saab
10. Hyundai
11. BMW
12. Daihatsu
13. Volvo
14. Jaguar
15. Citroen
16. Kia
17. Skoda
18. Lancia
19. Daewoo
20. Peugeot
21. Ford
22. Seat
23. Renault
24. Alfa Romeo
25. Rover
26. Audi
27. Opel
28. Chrysler Group
29. Smart
30. Fiat
31. Volkswagen
32. Mercedes-Benz
33. Land Rover

Source: ADAC
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you guys are making me wanna go out into my car and push it a little see if there is hidden power i haven't used in 1st gear.. i usually shift around 3-3.5K in 1st cuz the engine gets real loud real quick if you don't shift outta 1st real quick..

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Relax man! Give it time...I was new to stick when I first got mine and I thought I'd never really get it, but I did eventually. It's a tricky car to drive properly, but that's been said ad nauseum on here...so anyway, don't do it. If you've only had it for three months the depreciation is gonna really sting.

I sold mine ONLY because I couldn't rationalize the cost anymore and I miss it like crazy! (After 2 years...)

As soon as my gas hog is paid for I'm gonna look for a used WRX that hasn't been modded to hell and back.
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you guys are making me wanna go out into my car and push it a little see if there is hidden power i haven't used in 1st gear.. i usually shift around 3-3.5K in 1st cuz the engine gets real loud real quick if you don't shift outta 1st real quick..

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your kidding right?

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.. i usually shift around 3-3.5K in 1st cuz the engine gets real loud real quick if you don't shift outta 1st real quick..

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You're missing the best part! Don't be intimidated, you're not gonna hurt it if you keep things smooth.
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you guys are making me wanna go out into my car and push it a little see if there is hidden power i haven't used in 1st gear.. i usually shift around 3-3.5K in 1st cuz the engine gets real loud real quick if you don't shift outta 1st real quick..

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its called accelerating
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Rev that sommbish!!!!!!!!!
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TROLL!!!!!!!!!!!

That last comment was the clincher.

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true dat.

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you guys are making me wanna go out into my car and push it a little see if there is hidden power i haven't used in 1st gear.. i usually shift around 3-3.5K in 1st cuz the engine gets real loud real quick if you don't shift outta 1st real quick..

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Relax, learn how to drive first. You don't want to end up on the internet with an "own3d" pic.
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HE LIES! ALL LIES!
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TROLL!!!!!!!!!!!

That last comment was the clincher.

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I dunno man. I've ridden with alot of people that weren't so great with manual transmissions, and they all shifted super early and jerked the car. Makes me cringe.
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stop calling me troll..

just do a search under my name and u would know that isn't true.

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AWD just makes it harder for gears to engage (Takes longer) and has to be driven more carefully than a FWD or RWD Manual Transmission
learn how to drive
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Hey man, I was in the same boat as you when I first got the car.

Lemme guess... you never owned a small motor foreign car before? I never did, I was not used to a rev happy motor.

You will get the hang of it. Typing it out really doesnt do much justice you have to FEEL it... but here's something to try:

Take your car to an intersection. Get into the left turn lane. When the light turns green.... rev up to about 2500-3000 or so in 1st engage the clutch SLOWLYand complete your turn, giving it a little gas around the corner, shift into second, give it a LITTLE gas while engaging the clutch and you should be around 2500-3000 RPMS, now don't STOMP the pedal, slowly push down on the gas. When the RPM's are heading towards 3500-4000 hit the gas hard, but don't floor it (gradually make your way to the floor) and let the engine do it's thing through 6000-6800 RPM's and shift. and HOLD ON TIGHT!


I was always shifting too early too in the beginning, I had to get encouragement to rev higher too. THe engine will get loud, it's a little 4cyl, but believe me it LOVES to rev!

Get an axle back and you will understand, the stock exhaust is so quiet, the engine seems extra loud. Getting an axle back will help you know when toshift too.
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Everyone a vwvortex is laughing at us right now.
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Everyone a vwvortex is laughing at us right now.
why's that?
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Everyone a vwvortex is laughing at us right now.

I was thinking this too.
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