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09-24-2012, 01:41 PM | #101 | |
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09-25-2012, 01:00 PM | #102 |
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I too have gone the knock off route before and it ended with a turbo that didn't seal properly and i was out $800. if you buy a turbo from blouch or fp and it blows out within a year they will either repair or replace it with a new one asap. like i said i'm not knocking them i just want to see longevity out of them. the td06 with a 60-1 or the 25g sounds very appealing, but i don't want to be out another $800 dollars when i could just save up some more and know i have a good turbo is what i'm saying.
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09-25-2012, 02:52 PM | #103 | |
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09-25-2012, 03:12 PM | #104 | |
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09-25-2012, 03:21 PM | #105 |
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5000+ hard miles of antilag, no bov, and rotational idle to ball busting als in a second, here.
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09-25-2012, 04:22 PM | #106 | |
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09-25-2012, 04:41 PM | #107 |
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Just an fyi, kinugawa also has a year warranty but I really don't know how to go about warranty repairs or exchange. I think they have an office here In Ca, but from my experience these parts are being shipped from Taiwan.
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10-02-2012, 03:52 AM | #108 |
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What would be the ideal turbo from these guys for 330whp/350tq max on 91? I searched around and didn't find many 2011+ WRX/STi owners running them.
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10-02-2012, 06:03 AM | #109 | |
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10-04-2012, 10:55 AM | #110 | |
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Anyway, update: Squidz, yeah FP moved since 2001-2002 or my memory of that date is bit flipped. After taking the chra off, I noticed a slightly bent turbine blade (bent upwards). I sent the CHRA back for a new one, but no one seems to have the 6.5mm shaft hole billet 25G compressor wheel in stock (Kinugawa has some 7mm shaft ones left, but those fit the TD07 based CHRAs). That, or Kamak has decided to go the Apple route and promote their own line of turbos at prices higher than FP or Blouch. They seem somewhat schizo about their pricing in talking with them. Kamak will be having a showing at SEMA this year, so who knows what they are planning. However, Kinugawa was nice enough to be honest with me and refund $200 and send a regular TD06SL2-25G CHRA (FP Green Copy, but with a 5x5 blade compressor wheel). The billet actuator is not built like the Forge Motorsports actuator (and neither are the Kamak actuators). It is still a spring and membrane type actuator that is simply serviceable. The Forge Motorsport actuator uses a silicon half moon that the spring sits against instead of a flimsy membrane. I plan on using my Forge Actuator with the turbo instead. Besides going external, nothing beats a Forge Motorsports actuator. I'll have pics up soon. My slurry of upgrade parts are sitting waiting to be installed as I am performing service on my wife's car right now. BTW peeps... My Blouch turbo seal wore out several years ago and I just keep the boost low. I will rebuild it for 50 bucks soon. I did find this site for people looking for Billet wheels (they are making all types and bringing back some old school types): Snail turbo. Many places will balance your turbo. Here is one example. Midwest Turbo Of course if you have a turbo shop locally, usually it only costs $50 when changing wheels. You all have a turbo car. When upgrading, I suggest you learn about turbos and how they operate instead of jumping on a bandwagon. So for ordering a turbo overseas, I initially paid $905 for the billet stuff. I ended up paying $735 dollars for a good turbo with all the installation parts necessary. Did I mention it has the advanced 25G wheel and the anti-surge compressor housing? An ex-boss once told me, you can throw money at a problem to fix it. You can also throw knowledge at a problem to fix it. In this case my boss was wrong and the people throwing knowledge at the problem are still winning in that particular business (not car related). Gabe |
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10-04-2012, 12:45 PM | #111 |
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Although the actuator is a membrane type, it is pretty good.
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Here is a test (20 PSI spring): Last edited by gabedude; 10-04-2012 at 05:02 PM. Reason: Ha, that was too easy to embed the video. |
10-04-2012, 01:32 PM | #112 |
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What kind of boost (therefore exhaust pressure) are you supporting with the 20 PSI spring?
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10-04-2012, 02:03 PM | #113 | |
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I know people had some problems in the past with the regular actuators on these turbos, but I have seen some plots where boost on this turbo with this actuator (20 PSI spring) just shoots up @ ~3800 RPM. I might run another test with some springs holding gate shut, but I doubt I will need to. If it is laggy, I will just bolt the gate closed and see how it spools, then go from there. EVO guys are seeing good results with the new actuators as well as some folks in Australia and NZ. The only EVO guys who had problems were using a TD05 turbine wheel + 25G compressor wheel. This is two steps up. Mainly, I just wanted to make sure it worked and did not leak. |
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10-04-2012, 04:23 PM | #114 |
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Check this thread out from evolutionm.net.
http://forums.evolutionm.net/10422924-post112.html You have to login to see his road dyno, but its pretty much 500/500 on 93 oct. I am shooting for 450WTQ/450WHP reliably on 93 and 500/500 on E85. Considering this was my best run with the TD05/20G, this should be no problem. Right now I am clutch limited, but of course that is another part sitting around waiting to be installed. My best run on my Blouch TD05 20G (E85): What is cool about their upgrade is it only costs them around 300-400 (plus supporting mods) for the turbo parts. Since they already have the TD05/06 Cartridge (Center Housing), they can simply bore the stock turbine housing, order a Compressor housing + 25G wheel kit, order the TD06-SL2 turbine wheel, balance it and assemble + tune. Lucky bastards. Last edited by gabedude; 10-04-2012 at 04:53 PM. |
10-09-2012, 10:19 AM | #115 | |
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10-09-2012, 10:56 AM | #116 | |
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10-21-2012, 10:24 AM | #117 |
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I just bought one for my 2011 WRX build, upgraded from the HTA68.
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10-21-2012, 10:44 AM | #118 | |
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By not sealing you refer to the seal around the actuator rod? |
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10-21-2012, 04:40 PM | #119 |
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Where are you guys buying your Kamak turbos and how much???
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10-21-2012, 04:49 PM | #120 |
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I got my direct from George this was a custom built one for me and my new setup. I received a very good price for doing a write up and tune report. I can not give the price but they were very fair. Based on actually seeing the turbo and holding it, my tuner said it looked to be of very good quality and he was pleasently surprised. The guys in the shop also agreed and that they wer surprised with the quality and VSR balance CHRA. That said we should see Dyno numbers in a month need to break in the new motor etc.
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10-21-2012, 04:53 PM | #121 |
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10-21-2012, 08:21 PM | #122 |
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My stupidity and my kinugawa blew my transmission. Thought it was the turbo cryng for help but it was the bearings in the transmission giving out. This turbo has been good to me. No rebuilds yet. The casting and machining on these is very good.
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10-25-2012, 03:11 AM | #123 |
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Hmm interesting been researching these turbos for a while and now im getting more convinced in getting one for my 05 STi.
I hear Skyline guys using them with success http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/for...ynamics-turbo/ |
10-25-2012, 10:05 AM | #124 |
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If you guys want the billet wheels, go onto the kamak website.
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10-25-2012, 11:40 AM | #125 |
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How much do the STS turbos run for?
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