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Old 01-17-2003, 12:04 AM   #1
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Default Forester 2.5 Litre Turbo 2004 late apperance

yes thats the word around the street with subaru and my representative. So here was the Sti and now the forester HAhah

we will see it But it iwill be introduced around the same time as the BAJA turbo


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Old 01-17-2003, 12:22 AM   #2
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What engine will it have? The same one in the STi but detuned or the current engine with a turbo? It would make more sense financially to use the STi engine but what do I know. Screw the turbo Baja give me a Cross Sport Forester. I see they have a manualmatic or sport shift on the Jap spec so I assume the 2004 will have that available as well? I knew they will appear late.

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Old 01-17-2003, 02:17 AM   #3
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my dealer told me it will be the same thing as the turbo forester sold overseas, which is the ej20t we get in the wrx. not sure what transmissions will be offered though.
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Old 01-17-2003, 02:29 AM   #4
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my dealer told me it will be the same thing as the turbo forester sold overseas, which is the ej20t we get in the wrx. not sure what transmissions will be offered though.

I have heard the exact same thing. Subaru probably wants top keep the 2.5 Turbo motor exclusive to the STi.
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Old 01-17-2003, 09:54 AM   #5
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it is said that the upcoming 2005 legacy will have the 2.5T as well.
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Old 01-17-2003, 11:28 AM   #6
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...agent 007kimball did, and turbo your current Forester. I found a loophole that if I conform to the standards of the STi, as far as emissions, I too can have a turbo Forester.
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Old 01-17-2003, 05:53 PM   #7
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You can turbo the crap out of any powerplant you want...as long as you still meet emissions requirements...you just have to have it certified by a SMOG Referee (in CA, anyway).
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Old 01-17-2003, 06:31 PM   #8
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Of course you can turbo any car. But a ej20 and NEW STI motors will be able to take 2 times as much power than my N/A 2.5 . Hlf closed deck and better metals used is internally!!

And yea i also heard it was going to be a de tuned 2.0 WRX motor as well. But for a Forester or Baja the avearge customer is going to expect 6 cyclinder low end. So Subaru Might use the 2.5 STi block strip the STi crank shaft , pistons rings, rods, bearing etc. and pop on a WRX head( f somesort) and have a very very de tuned 2.5 turbo great power band and torque hopefully maxing at 2-3 g to almost redline!! That would be very very smart on SOA i think..

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Old 01-18-2003, 02:18 AM   #9
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Of course you can turbo any car. But a ej20 and NEW STI motors will be able to take 2 times as much power than my N/A 2.5 . Hlf closed deck and better metals used is internally!!

And yea i also heard it was going to be a de tuned 2.0 WRX motor as well. But for a Forester or Baja the avearge customer is going to expect 6 cyclinder low end. So Subaru Might use the 2.5 STi block strip the STi crank shaft , pistons rings, rods, bearing etc. and pop on a WRX head( f somesort) and have a very very de tuned 2.5 turbo great power band and torque hopefully maxing at 2-3 g to almost redline!! That would be very very smart on SOA i think..

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The EJ20 at current WRX tune would make sense....detuning it would be pointless as the EJ25 is already at 165hp stock. There would be no point in using an STi block if they were using mild boost...the semi-closed deck would probably be more than was necessary.

A mildly boosted EJ25 would be a great solution and run fine. But the EJ20 is already in use in other markets in the Forester...so...flip a coin.

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P.S. maybe they'll throw in AVCS...that'd be cool.
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Old 01-18-2003, 04:51 AM   #10
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Around August, 2.5T

That is all I know.

Ill take mine in either that forester Rally blueish color or Black.
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Old 01-18-2003, 12:43 PM   #11
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FWIW... back when people were speculating about what the STi woudl be like, one apparently reliable source mentioned that the turbo forester would be tuned a bit differently than the current WRX. Yes the peak horsepower would be less, but also it had better low end torque than the WRX, reportedly. This came from a guy who drove one, apparently.


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Old 01-18-2003, 12:48 PM   #12
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if its like any of the foresters out there.. then it would simply be a EJ20T, but with different cams to give a lot more torque as opposed to HP for extra oomph down low.

BUT if it's a 2.5 like everyone else is saying it will be. it'll be a hell of a lot of fun. I'll have to definitely trade in my wagon

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Old 01-19-2003, 03:23 PM   #13
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Default I heard the Forester 2.5 turbo would be...

automatic only! This was from someone supposedly at SOA. God, I hope that's wrong!!!

Can anyone confirm or deny that rumor?

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Old 01-19-2003, 04:59 PM   #14
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Can't help you there, Bob. The only new Forester XT I've seen was in Italy. It had the EJ20T and was an automatic, without Sportshift.

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Old 01-19-2003, 05:10 PM   #15
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Talking Silly people.....

I flogged the crap out of a bunch of WRX's in the twisties, and kept up with the quickest of them, and I have an automatic. When they heard that, you should have seen the looks on their faces.....

Forester Automatic=FUN!!

Anyone who says different, come take a ride w/me!!

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Old 01-19-2003, 05:21 PM   #16
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Automatics are by no means bad. Grand Nationals, Syclones and Typhoons came with only automatics and they kicked and still kick some serious ass!
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And the world's quickest WRX is a 4EAT
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Old 01-19-2003, 10:25 PM   #18
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I flogged the crap out of a bunch of WRX's in the twisties, and kept up with the quickest of them, and I have an automatic. When they heard that, you should have seen the looks on their faces.....

Forester Automatic=FUN!!

Anyone who says different, come take a ride w/me!!

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I own a Forester automatic too, but I still want to see the new 2.5 turbo available with both an automatic & manual.

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Old 01-19-2003, 10:36 PM   #19
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sorta related... an ej20t at home in a jdm XT model (with a gaudy grounding kit ):



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Old 01-20-2003, 02:25 AM   #20
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What's the grounding kit suppose to do? What are the benefits from it if I do or if I don't do it?
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Old 01-20-2003, 05:41 AM   #21
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Well...first of all we have moved this tread pretty far OFF TOPIC.

With that said ....the grounding mod is NOT a power mod per se ...what it does is clean up things like engine response and hesitation for some people. For me it cleared a off idle hesitation I had on my 01 Forester L with AT.

I think its worth doing because:
a. its very easy to do
b. its very inexpensive to do
c. it has no reported negative effects.

How to do it has been extensively discussed and much can be found by:
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OK.....I hope this helps.....we need to OPEN a new thread on this IF it needs more discussion.........
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Old 01-20-2003, 05:48 AM   #22
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You won't get a WRX motor in a forester because the torque doesn't come in until well up the rev range. The S-turbo has a TD04L turbo which is smaller than the WRX turbo to produce a better low down response at the expense of outright top end power. That and the ECU are the only differences. I think the japanese XT has VVT and about 210bhp, so I would rate that as the most likely version for you guys to get. You might however, get the S-turbo spec one and lose your 2.5 altogether. Power and torque are reasonably similar, so it would be a logical choice.
If they follow the same logic as the UK though, you'll get your present 2.5 and a 'small turbo' 2.5.
Who knows, we'll all have ot wait and see!
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It had better be an improved automatic tranny... My parents Legacy GT w/ the 4EAT shifts way to much going up and down inclines... Thats where the difference between a manual and an auto starts to become aparent.
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Not sure I understand? Are you saying a manual can make all the same hills in 5th gear?

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It had better be an improved automatic tranny... My parents Legacy GT w/ the 4EAT shifts way to much going up and down inclines... Thats where the difference between a manual and an auto starts to become aparent.
Any auto is going to do this...it's all driver input dependent. If you have your foot in the gas pretty good, the TCU will try to kick down a gear or two until it sees you let off...then it'll kick back up for better fuel efficency. Then you lose momentum and the cycle starts all over.

Don't you usually shift to a lower gear in your manual to go up a hill?
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