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Old 10-30-2003, 09:45 PM   #1
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Default FS: ECUTek reflashed ECU & Delta Dash

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I have for sale my OEM ECU that has included with it a ECU Tek reflash licence. The licence stays with the ECU so any further flashes only cost you the tuning time. I had this on my EJ2.5 bulid up motor but it wont cut it for the radicle changes that have been made to the motor/heads/fuel system. I can have most any setup loaded on the ECU for you (Payn Tech will be doing the flash). Included with the sale is a BRAND NEW Delta Dash.

you will get:

(1) WRX ECU (~$300 new)
(1) ECU Tek reflash licence (any ECU Tek dealer can reflash it)($650-750)
(1) Delta Dash (OBDII,map switches,data loging)($300-450)

I am asking $1000 for the whole deal.

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Old 10-30-2003, 09:57 PM   #2
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hey clayton...how much just for the delta dash, if you're willing to part the package?

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Old 10-31-2003, 09:34 AM   #3
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Let me clarify one thing..

An Ecutek ECU can only be reflashed by the SAME TUNER.

If Tuan over here at GRD tried to reflash that ECU it would eat a license off his key card. Only the tuner which did that ECU will be able to reflash it.

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Old 10-31-2003, 10:00 AM   #4
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thanks for the clarification jorge. i was gonna buy a used ecutek (not flashed by tuan) thinking i could just get them to reflash it. no im just probably gonna get it flashed by tuan to begin with.

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Old 10-31-2003, 11:16 AM   #5
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I have for sale my OEM ECU that has included with it a ECU Tek reflash licence. The licence stays with the ECU so any further flashes only cost you the tuning time. I had this on my EJ2.5 bulid up motor but it wont cut it for the radicle changes that have been made to the motor/heads/fuel system. I can have most any setup loaded on the ECU for you (Payn Tech will be doing the flash). Included with the sale is a BRAND NEW Delta Dash.

you will get:

(1) WRX ECU (~$300 new)
(1) ECU Tek reflash licence (any ECU Tek dealer can reflash it)($650-750)
(1) Delta Dash (OBDII,map switches,data loging)($300-450)

I am asking $1200 for the whole deal.

Email [email protected]
Sounds like an ass raping price. Selling Delta Dash that has a License already used is like selling a used turbo. It just aint worth retail. The ECU I can understand. And Jorge is right. Only the original Tuner can re-flash the ECU again.

Thank You, Come again.
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Old 10-31-2003, 07:16 PM   #6
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r we absolutely certain that a ecutek licensed and reflashed ecu from lets say rally spec, can not be reflashed at payn tech?
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Old 11-01-2003, 06:05 PM   #7
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Originally posted by RiftsWRX
Let me clarify one thing..

An Ecutek ECU can only be reflashed by the SAME TUNER.

If Tuan over here at GRD tried to reflash that ECU it would eat a license off his key card. Only the tuner which did that ECU will be able to reflash it.

Jorge (RiftsWRX)
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THIS IS NOT TRUE!!!!!! I have confirmed with Dave at ECUTek in the UK that ANYONE that has the flashing software will be able to reflash this ECU WITHOUT using one of their licenses!!!!
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Old 11-01-2003, 06:10 PM   #8
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THIS IS NOT TRUE!!!!!! I have confirmed with Dave at ECUTek in the UK that ANYONE that has the flashing software will be able to reflash this ECU WITHOUT using one of their licenses!!!!
Gosh Jorge, I guess your advice is as bad as your tuning
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Old 11-01-2003, 06:11 PM   #9
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Selling Delta Dash that has a License already used is like selling a used turbo. It just aint worth retail
How do you figure? Does software wear out?

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Gosh Jorge, I guess your advice is as bad as your tuning
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Old 11-01-2003, 06:52 PM   #10
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Gosh Jorge, I guess your advice is as bad as your tuning
dems fightin' words boy!

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Old 11-01-2003, 07:00 PM   #11
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Gosh Jorge, I guess your advice is as bad as your tuning
John,

Lets try not to get this locked. Clayton is trying to sell his thingamajiggy
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Old 11-01-2003, 08:39 PM   #12
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Old 11-01-2003, 09:53 PM   #13
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The "thingamajiggy" as Ben calls it is still for sale.....lets stay on topic please......
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Old 11-01-2003, 11:29 PM   #14
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hey, how about ansewring my question:

will you sell the delta dash by itself? i'm assuming it's the enthusiast version. how many ECUs has it been used for? if it's been tagged for 3, it's pretty much useless for me.

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Old 11-02-2003, 09:33 AM   #15
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RUN BEEOTCH!!!

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Old 11-03-2003, 06:39 AM   #16
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Bump for Monday morning and to summarize corrections to the incorrect posts:

As confirmed with ECUTek, any ECUTek dealer can reflash an ECU that was reflashed by another tuner without losing a license. So, even though this ECU was reflashed by Payn Technologies, any ECUTek tuner can reflash it for your car without losing a license.

Also, while researching the ECUTek site, this was found:

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Enthusiast Licensing
DeltaDash is available to car enthusiast to use to test and diagnose their own car. The software will work with up to 3 different ECU versions. This allows use on, for example, two cars owned by the enthusiast, plus one car owned by a friend. The software will remember the first 3 car ECUs with which it has been used, and this will form the 3 car license for the product.
So, it does look like the Enthusiast version will only work on three ECU's. However, I know that the one being sold here has only been used on one ecu, the ecu being sold. So, I would assume that you could then use it on two other ECU's as well. Since Clayton is trying to sell everything as one package, this shouldn't be an issue for a purchaser. If it really was, someone could upgrade the DeltaDash from Enthusiast to Professional.
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Old 11-03-2003, 11:15 AM   #17
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Originally posted by yamarocket630
Gosh Jorge, I guess your advice is as bad as your tuning


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License Usage Information
As mentioned previously, a programming license is consumed the first time that an
ECU is programmed by a particular Flash2002 software installation. Subsequent
reprograms of the same ECU do not consume further licenses. There is however one
exception to this rule: If the customer (owner of the car in this instance) takes the
car/ECU to another tuner (competitor) with Flash2002, another programming license
(belonging to the second tuner) will be consumed. If the customer subsequently
returns to the original tuner, then this will happen again. This feature is deliberate, and
is designed to keep customers more loyal to a particular tuner. It prevents a second
tuner from offering a seemingly lower price than the first tuner for a second remap on
the ECU. If the second tuner were not to be charged for a license, then he/she would
have an additional £150 of margin which may lure the customer away. It is perhaps
more accurate to say that a flash license is consumed each time an ECU is
programmed with a different software installation & license key (dongle).
That's right from the Flash 2002 manual which I got not even 3 months ago.. so if it's a change... it's recent.

P.S. As for the tuning shot... you are so right, I am teh suck, but have a laptop and backup with almost 300 maps done to my name..

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Old 11-03-2003, 11:31 AM   #18
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OWN3D!! So essentially it would wind up being more like $2000.00 because the buyer would have to get the ECU tuned and reflashed again.
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Old 11-03-2003, 12:30 PM   #19
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OWN3D!! So essentially it would wind up being more like $2000.00 because the buyer would have to get the ECU tuned and reflashed again.

Damn Owned myself. I just got this back from Stephen Done at ECUTek.

Hi Chris,

Yes, a dealer can now reflash over the top of another dealer without using a license. This did not used to be the case, so they must be using the latest software. All dealers should have this, so it shouldn't be a problem.

Cheers

Steve

DOH!!. Sounds like a decent deal to me. I personally wouldn't pay 1200.00 but oh well. I'm sure someone will.
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Old 11-03-2003, 12:41 PM   #20
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Well there you go, as stated, it was a recent change.

Carry on.

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