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03-02-2007, 06:37 PM | #1 | |
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Senator Hillary Clinton proposes "Mandatory Back-Up Cameras?"
Senator Hillary Clinton proposes "Mandatory Back-Up Cameras?"
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03-02-2007, 06:50 PM | #2 |
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Does that include free NAV systems on all cars too???
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03-02-2007, 07:10 PM | #3 |
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I wanna know why we still have side mirrors?
For years and years now concept cars have had cameras on the sides and a screen on the inside instead. It probably would reduce drag - and help fuel economy - dramatically if you didn't have 2 big fat mirrors sticking out the sides of your car. |
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I'm against mandatory rear view cameras. I hate unnecessary legislation. Hillary seems to propose a lot of things that fall into this category. |
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03-05-2007, 05:18 AM | #5 |
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+1 for sideview cameras, -1 for mandatory rearview cameras, unless hillary is paying for it herself, and i'll take a side of nav and dvd player on a 7'' display with that!!!
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03-05-2007, 05:56 AM | #6 |
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Big deal! It won't be long before most cars will have them anyway, legislation or not. Many luxury cars and SUV's have them already. They are actually pretty cool, especially the ones on Mercedes and Audi's that show your trajectory as well.
I also like on the Audi Q7 how it has a light on the mirrors that indicate when a vehicle is in your blind spot |
03-05-2007, 08:08 AM | #7 |
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I agree, Hillary pisses me off with her "think of the children" knee-jerk reactions. Rather than educate people to drive better and raise driving test standards (I know, it's a state thing), she wants to force technology down folks' throats, which of course raises the price of all cars.
I thought the LF-A was going to be built sans sideview mirrors, since its concept form had little cameras out the sides. Sadly, the preproduction shows sideview mirrors. |
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03-05-2007, 12:44 PM | #10 |
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I have a back-up camera, but I still twist around in my seat when I back up. Just because you have a camera doesn't mean you can see everything. It's good as an additional view, but by no means a completely accurate tool.
Mandatory? lame. |
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I totally agree. What a total waste of time. Meanwhile, they can't decently balance a buget for the life of them.
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03-05-2007, 12:58 PM | #12 |
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Paying attention to what you are doing will. A camera will just give people a false sense of security and they may be inclined to not check behind them instead relying on technology to aid them. People don't pay attention enough as it is behind the wheel of a car.
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03-05-2007, 01:02 PM | #13 | |
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Probably because they're simple, cheap and reliable... not to mention, that they're extremely functional, since you can glance at the driver's side mirror and check your blind spot in one quick head movement.
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---- I'm all for backup cameras, airbags, seatbelts, helmets, etc.. but I'm against anyone legislating any of them as mandatory for everyone. |
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03-05-2007, 01:03 PM | #14 |
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I have back up sensors... works great on little childrens... I know when to speed up.
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03-05-2007, 01:11 PM | #15 | |
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Just like any technology, it can be a useful tool when used in conjunction with common sense This is just the typical "I don't want to be told what to do by the govt.", or the "I hate Hillary" crowd whining about something that would have no negative effect on them If instead the car companies decided to make it mandatory, you guys would be singing praises Last edited by Mopho; 03-05-2007 at 01:31 PM. |
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03-05-2007, 01:28 PM | #16 |
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Backup cameras are great for large SUVs or other vehicles with large blind-spots, but even then most of them have a screwed-up aspect that makes it hard to tell where things are in relation to the vehicle, and like others have said, cameras by themselves aren't enough. People still need to just pay attention to what is going on around them and look to see what is back there, whether they have a camera or not.
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03-05-2007, 01:42 PM | #18 |
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03-05-2007, 01:45 PM | #19 |
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Why don't they just put brush gaurds on the back of cars instead. This way there little arms won't smudge the paint, when they get backed over.....
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03-05-2007, 01:48 PM | #20 |
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As of now, I am for it (don't know the 'whole story'). The fact of the matter is, a person can walk around a vehicle as many times as they want, but when they step into the driver's seat...that small area directly behind the car is a permanent blindspot. Someone could theoretically check behind the car, walk bacwards whilst watching the rear section, hop in, and immediately continue checking the rear though. It is true that better driver training/requirements (which I am also for) can only go so far.
It does not make sense to me that we can freely operate 3,000+ lb (even greater size/weight/blindspots with SUVs (which are especially common with families)) vehicles, and so frequently use that blinded area. If the stats are correct, it could theoritcally save money. Less accidents means less strain on public service. Time could be saved because the 'back up procedure' would take less time. Some things I would; however, want is that the camera(s) either cover a very large area behind the car, including 'looking down the lanes' to the left and right such that a person can rely completely on the system, or, look only at the small blindspot area (with some overlap) such that people don't get a false sense of security from it. In fact, an 'all emcompassing' camera setup could make driving much safer. We could turn the rear view mirror area into a set of screens that utilize a series of cameres to show a sort of 'panorama' shot around the sides/rear of the car. Camera locations: standard side mirrors, C-pillar (looking in the direction of the common 'blindspot'), top/rear/center of the hood, and the bottom/center of the bumper (this one may actually be better mounted somewhere near the rear diff). A less complicated setup could just make little camera 'pods' mounted inside the car where the cameras just look out the rear window. With this setup, someone would only have to look to one location for all 'rear view' info, allowing for more time with eyes forward, and greatly reducing the effect of someone moving into one area while you are looking at another. Last but not least...when cars have it, so will semi trucks and fleet vehicles with 'boarded up' windows. I understand the 'laissez fair' idea, but there is a proper balance between anarchy and dictatorship. I think this falls in the middle as the potential benefit greatly outweighs the cost. |
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"Called the Cameron Gulbransen Kids and Cars Safety Act, the measure is named after a 2-year-old New York boy who was accidentally run over and killed by his father as he backed out his sport utility vehicle in 2002."
When I read that part I was just How about we just make SUVs illegal. Just because Hillary needs a mandatory reverse camera when she's backing up her oversized piece of crap SUV doesn't mean I do. |
03-05-2007, 08:00 PM | #24 |
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this is ridiculous... i dont want to be forced into buying a car with a backup camera. It will just add to the price of cars. the benefit of safety from these things isnt going to be that significant... how many people actually get run over by cars backing up anyway??
whats next? "all cars must automatically parallel park" |
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She is an idiot democrat, what the hell do you expect?
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