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Old 10-21-2014, 08:17 PM   #6201
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Checked my dip stick just now. Cold engine. HARDLY above the low line. Couldnt get a decent picture.

Not something I wanted to do this weekend but suppose it was meant to be. At least I get to use my Fumoto valve for the first time! Should make everything cleaner!
Thanks for reporting your findings.
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Old 10-21-2014, 10:27 PM   #6202
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Thanks for reporting your findings.
Any updates on your oil consumption or other issues?
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Old 10-22-2014, 06:45 AM   #6203
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Any updates on your oil consumption or other issues?
Nope. Still doing the consumption test. Been working a second job lately.
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Old 10-22-2014, 06:37 PM   #6204
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Nothing new here. Car should be in the process of a short block change as we speak. No call from the dealer yet.
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Old 10-22-2014, 07:49 PM   #6205
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Couple interesting notes...

Changed my oil today and picked up the OEM filter. Guy at the parts department said it isnt abnormal to be low on oil after 3k miles. Said I could certainly go in for an oil consumption test though. Will consider it after monitoring myself after this change.

Also... weird... asked a guy I work with who is big into Jeeps how often where he buys oil. Was just trying to see if he knew somewhere with a good price. He said, and I quote, "Didnt you know? I dont change my oil". He said that modern oil doesnt need to be changed and he simply adds if its low.

Dont have the motivation to research or argue that one.
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Old 10-22-2014, 09:42 PM   #6206
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Couple interesting notes...

Changed my oil today and picked up the OEM filter. Guy at the parts department said it isnt abnormal to be low on oil after 3k miles. Said I could certainly go in for an oil consumption test though. Will consider it after monitoring myself after this change.

Also... weird... asked a guy I work with who is big into Jeeps how often where he buys oil. Was just trying to see if he knew somewhere with a good price. He said, and I quote, "Didnt you know? I dont change my oil". He said that modern oil doesnt need to be changed and he simply adds if its low.

Dont have the motivation to research or argue that one.
Haha... Ask your coworker how he likes his jeep after it's engine granades from never having the oil changed. Does he at least change the filter?

In all seriousness though, I've never heard that one before. There are oil manufactures that claim you can go 10k, 15k, 20k or more miles with their oil, but I sure as hell wouldn't chance it. All oil, even modern synthetic oils, break down after a while. Not only that, but you would most certainly void your warranty should something happen to your engine and you didn't follow the manufacturers recommend oil change intervals.

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Old 10-22-2014, 09:45 PM   #6207
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Old 10-23-2014, 07:32 AM   #6208
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Haha... Ask your coworker how he likes his jeep after it's engine granades from never having the oil changed. Does he at least change the filter?

In all seriousness though, I've never heard that one before. There are oil manufactures that claim you can go 10k, 15k, 20k or more miles with their oil, but I sure as hell wouldn't chance it. All oil, even modern synthetic oils, break down after a while. Not only that, but you would most certainly void your warranty should something happen to your engine and you didn't follow the manufacturers recommend oil change intervals.
Actually, in some applications this is true. An old friend who was in the navy for his career said that the oil on ships was filtered and checked and that drums of additives were added as necessary.
I think that this may be where people get the idea. Totally stupid not to change the friggin oil. I have a coworker who has a heavily modified and abused Jeep and I cringe at some of the stuff he does/has done to it.
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Old 10-23-2014, 01:15 PM   #6209
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I suppose you could make the argument, as others have suggested, that it's unnecessary to change your oil often, or at all for those who have engines that consume oil at a high rate because you're always replenishing with fresh oil. I would still highly recommend changing the oil filter at least every 7500 miles.

Personally, I wouldn't run an extended OCI even with oil that says I could or with an oil thirsty engine because of the risk of voiding the warranty.

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Old 10-23-2014, 01:30 PM   #6210
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Personally, I wouldn't run an extended OCI even with oil that says I could or with an oil thirsty engine because of the risk of voiding the warranty.
I wouldn't run an extended OCI on any car that's under warranty, regardless of how oil thirsty it is. Once the warranty expires, I'd let a UOA dictate my OCI.
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Old 10-24-2014, 06:15 AM   #6211
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I suppose you could make the argument, as others have suggested, that it's unnecessary to change your oil often, or at all for those who have engines that consume oil at a high rate because you're always replenishing with fresh oil. I would still highly recommend changing the oil filter at least every 7500 miles.

Personally, I wouldn't run an extended OCI even with oil that says I could or with an oil thirsty engine because of the risk of voiding the warranty.
yes, agreed.
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Old 10-25-2014, 02:35 PM   #6212
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I have a 2013 imprezza and it is eating oil way more than it should. The dealership told me they know about the problem but won't replace my short block because "yours isn't that bad".

Why is this happening to a brand new car?


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Old 10-26-2014, 08:40 PM   #6213
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I have a 2013 imprezza and it is eating oil way more than it should. The dealership told me they know about the problem but won't replace my short block because "yours isn't that bad".

Why is this happening to a brand new car?


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"yours isn't that bad"? Heard that one before myself. Was told I must not buy nice new cars very much or I would know "they all burn oil these days".
Basically, like any other product, cars are being built crappier and cheaper every year. Consumers view the brands and companies as "holy institutions" and expect nothing for their dollar. Long gone are the days of Nader's Raiders and consumer activism.
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Old 10-27-2014, 08:41 AM   #6214
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I have a 2013 imprezza and it is eating oil way more than it should. The dealership told me they know about the problem but won't replace my short block because "yours isn't that bad".

Why is this happening to a brand new car?
Please provide some more details. How long have you owned your car? How many miles are on it? CVT or manual? How did you go about breaking it in? How often have you changed its oil? What is its oil consumption rate? Have you gotten the oil level light, or do you know it's consuming based on dip stick readings?
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Old 10-27-2014, 12:54 PM   #6215
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I have a 2013 imprezza and it is eating oil way more than it should. The dealership told me they know about the problem but won't replace my short block because "yours isn't that bad".

Why is this happening to a brand new car?


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Contact the law firm associated with the class action suit. It's posted in this thread.

If SOA thinks excessive oil consumption on a new vehicle is "normal", then they've been huffing their own burning oil

I can tell you our "new" 2013 Mini didn't/hasn't consumed ANY oil with 15k on the odometer
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Old 11-06-2014, 07:49 PM   #6216
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maybe a bad sensor?
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Old 11-06-2014, 11:20 PM   #6217
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Have you guys ever thought that maybe it isn't the car. That maybe the 0w20 oil you put in the car is pretty much water. Car companies like Subaru are under the gun to get better mpg and one way to reduce friction in engines is to make the oil thinner so it's easier to move around.
I use a thicker oil and my oil consumption has gone away. I drive a lot of subarus for my job and all the oil consumption problems started when they went to 0w20 oil.


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Old 11-07-2014, 12:46 AM   #6218
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Were you putting 0W-20 in your bugeye?!
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Old 11-07-2014, 08:40 AM   #6219
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Have you guys ever thought that maybe it isn't the car. That maybe the 0w20 oil you put in the car is pretty much water. Car companies like Subaru are under the gun to get better mpg and one way to reduce friction in engines is to make the oil thinner so it's easier to move around.
I use a thicker oil and my oil consumption has gone away. I drive a lot of subarus for my job and all the oil consumption problems started when they went to 0w20 oil.


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0W20 oil has already been blamed for the consumption problems by many. The problem with that theory is that not everyone who runs 0w20 is experiencing oil consumption. Also, some of us with high consumption rates have experimented with heavier oils and saw little to no reduction in consumption.
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Old 11-07-2014, 10:32 AM   #6220
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Have you guys ever thought that maybe it isn't the car. That maybe the 0w20 oil you put in the car is pretty much water. Car companies like Subaru are under the gun to get better mpg and one way to reduce friction in engines is to make the oil thinner so it's easier to move around.
I use a thicker oil and my oil consumption has gone away. I drive a lot of subarus for my job and all the oil consumption problems started when they went to 0w20 oil.


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im using Castrol Syntec 5w30 and still have consumption. What oil are you using?
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No I'm not putting it in my bugeye. You did really read my post did you. I said for my job.
I never said that there may not be a problem I just said that the main problem is to thin of oil. Most of the problems will be cleared up with thicker oil. And yes there will be some that continue to have problems.

What kind of Subaru do you have I can't see if you have it listed cause I'm on a iPhone. If your car dosent call for synthetic oil that may be the problem to. You may not believe this but in some cars synthetic oil will not stick to the engine components as well as conventional. it just slides right on by. Try switching to a conventional oil if that what your car calls for a couple oil changes and see what happens.


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Nope, try again...
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No I'm not putting it in my bugeye. You did really read my post did you. I said for my job.
I never said that there may not be a problem I just said that the main problem is to thin of oil. Most of the problems will be cleared up with thicker oil. And yes there will be some that continue to have problems.

What kind of Subaru do you have I can't see if you have it listed cause I'm on a iPhone. If your car dosent call for synthetic oil that may be the problem to. You may not believe this but in some cars synthetic oil will not stick to the engine components as well as conventional. it just slides right on by. Try switching to a conventional oil if that what your car calls for a couple oil changes and see what happens.


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Go spend some time here- http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php
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Old 11-10-2014, 06:44 PM   #6224
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Can someone once again tell me how to drive during the break in period? I got the car back with a new shortblock.
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Old 11-10-2014, 06:50 PM   #6225
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Like a bat out of hell! As the saying goes...
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