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12-11-2012, 02:28 PM | #14851 |
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have them send you that in writing, till then I would stick with what the manual says. trusting customer support
even soa is not always a good thing.
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12-11-2012, 02:29 PM | #14852 |
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I've called around to 12 different Subaru dealerships around my area and around Pennsylvania and all of them state that this is the new filter to be used on 2012 impreza 2.0i models.
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12-11-2012, 02:32 PM | #14853 |
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If that's true, then this might be a good time to buy up a stash of the black filters.
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12-11-2012, 02:43 PM | #14854 |
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What could be the harm? the dealerships and soa are the ones that have to fix them when they explode. what would they gain from giving bad information besides more warrantee claims?
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12-11-2012, 03:07 PM | #14855 |
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I thought I read on the Bob is the Oil Guy site that the black Roki filters were better quality than the blue Honeywell filters.
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12-11-2012, 03:34 PM | #14856 |
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Oh i didnt know they were made by different manufacturers. Interesting.
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12-11-2012, 03:39 PM | #14857 |
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I'm guessing that the blue filters are cheaper for subaru to buy and that's why they're switching?
I just bought a six pack of the black filters off of eBay and will prob continue buying those as long as they're available... or something comes to light about the blue filters being better or required for warranty purposes. |
12-11-2012, 04:13 PM | #14858 |
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For warranty purposes, you can use any color or brand of filter.
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12-11-2012, 05:03 PM | #14859 |
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I just had my 1st oil change done last week Tuesday and they did it with the black filter, I also picked up a couple extra to do my own the next couple of times, glad I did.
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12-11-2012, 09:19 PM | #14860 |
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12-11-2012, 10:05 PM | #14861 |
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Purolator PureOne PL14459
It has a great track record, published performance data and good availability. |
12-12-2012, 02:10 AM | #14862 |
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I know that this is a rather potentially biased arena to be asking this in, but is there any serious reason for me to choose an Mazda 3 over an Impreza sport? I'm still in college, no family plans as of now, and like to hike, bike, and generally do outdoor activities. And drive. Obviously. Any advice? And no I don't want to turn this into a x vs y war.
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12-12-2012, 06:10 AM | #14863 | |
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12-12-2012, 06:42 AM | #14864 | |
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For example, do you live in Vermont or Mississippi? That would be my first consideration. |
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12-12-2012, 08:11 AM | #14865 |
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Here's what I think Dirt should do. He should (if he hasn't already) test drive both cars. Then he should report his findings back to us. What does he prefer about the Impreza over the Mazda3? What does he prefer about the Mazda3 over the Impreza?
With that info, we'll be able to confirm or refute his observations. But I hope that Dirt isn't trying to make a major purchase decision based upon the opinions of active forum members. People on this forum will be biased toward the Impreza. If Dirt is being fair, he's posted similar questions on a Mazda3 forum, where he will get responses from people who are biased toward the Mazda. So I'm hoping that he gets some of his own seat time in both cars, and only uses the forums to confirm his own observations. |
12-12-2012, 08:34 AM | #14866 |
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Actually I would say that if he lives where AWD is a desire and not a need he should seriously consider the Mazda.
And vice versa. There are too many southerners complaining about their poor MPG's when they bought AWD for the fun factor, or to drive in the rain. I live where AWD is more important than MPG's, so when I get the Combined Average MPG printed on my sticker, and not much more, I am neither perplexed nor complaining. |
12-12-2012, 08:52 AM | #14867 |
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Subaru's efforts to improve the fuel economy of its cars is not only motivated by the government, but also to give its cars more universal appeal. When I decided to dump my 2010 Golf TDI, I wouldn't have considered the 2011 Impreza because of its MPGs, but the improved MPG rating of the 2012 Impreza allowed it onto my radar screen.
So as the fuel economy of Subaru's fleet improves, people who don't need AWD due to their local weather can still take advantage of Subaru's other benefits, such as solid build quality and reliability, a cleanly designed interior, nice ride, roomy back seat, good handling, and so on. [NOTE: I live in Rochester, NY, which can get its fair share of snow. However, I've found that a front-wheel drive car with snow tires does quite nicely in Rochester winters, since Rochester's road-clearing capabilities are excellent. I'm guessing it's the same in Albany. So I'm looking forward to having some AWD fun this winter. But to say that I need AWD because I live in western NY would be untrue. It would be more accurate to say that I need snow tires, regardless of whether I'm driving a front-wheel drive car or an AWD car.] But if fuel economy is the ultimate litmus test, then you're right--I'm sure the Mazda3 with the new Skyactive engine/tranny combo will get better MPGs than our Imprezas do. |
12-12-2012, 08:53 AM | #14868 | |
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12-12-2012, 09:53 AM | #14869 | |
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My last car was a FWD Elantra with Nokian WRG2 tires (All Weather, including a snow rating). It was all over the place, and unsafe to drive where I live, even with new Nokians on it. That's why I drive the Impreza now. I would be tempted, if I was shopping this year, to buy a Suzuki Kizashi AWD at a $6,000 discount off MSRP... I test drove one and liked it. But at the time they were only offering $2,000 off, and I was a little worried they would pull out of the US market (which they are doing, explaining the big discounts) Last edited by Zeeper; 12-12-2012 at 10:24 AM. |
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12-12-2012, 10:04 AM | #14870 |
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I would be curious to see how the Elantra would have done with dedicated snow tires. Oh well, I guess we'll never know.
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12-12-2012, 10:20 AM | #14871 |
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Nokian WRG2 are phenomenal tires in the snow. They are not all seasons, they have a snow rating. In other words, they are snow tires. They may actually be my next all weather tires when I wear out the Yoko's. Then I might sell my winter tire/rim setup.
The fault with the Hyundai was the weight of the car, the FWD, and the lack of traction control. It wasn't a real issue until I moved into the hilltowns. For most people it would be passable, but still suck. But if you want to buy the 2008 Hyundai Elantra I traded in and shoe it with the tire of your choice to prove your point, it is out there somewhere. Go for it. We can wait until we get a good amount of unplowed snow, and I'll show you where to drive, and follow behind you in my Impreza, until I decide to pass you and go on my way. |
12-12-2012, 10:28 AM | #14872 | |
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12-12-2012, 10:53 AM | #14873 | |
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But the attitude of your response peaked my curiosity even further, so I did a small amount of research. Here's what I found: http://www.subaruforester.org/vbulle...-review-88013/ It sounds to me like tread wear is an issue with the WR G2 tire, and the traction is nothing to write home about once the snow gets deeper than a few inches. I'll take the writer's review as relevant in this discussion, since he tested the WR G2s on Subarus as well as a Mazda3, which is probably similarly light in weight to the Elantra. My plan, on all three cars in my family, is to have two different sets of tires dedicated to the appropriate season. Yes, this requires extra expense, work, and storage considerations. But to me, it's worth it. So I guess the real test would be for you to show me what roads to drive on with me in my Impreza wearing Blizzak WS60 snow tires, and with you in your Impreza wearing WR G2s. Please don't start flaming me, Zeeper. While I know (and you know) that you piss some people off on this forum, I'm not one of them. I like you, and I both respect and agree with almost all of your opinions I've read. But if you come at me half-cocked simply because I asked a rhetorical question about how the Elantra would perform with dedicated snow tires, then I will defend myself. |
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12-12-2012, 11:02 AM | #14874 | |
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The three cars I considered when I was in the market were the Impreza, Focus, and Mazda3.
So that's how I made my choice back in June. Hope this helps. |
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12-12-2012, 11:15 AM | #14875 | |
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You missed that I stated the Nokian tires were brand new, so tread wear was not the issue. They were replacing Vredestein All Weather tires (also a snow rating) that wore out very quickly (the thing that reviewer complained about). They were replaced early in the last winter that I had the car (2010), we had lots of snow that winter. The real issue is my Hyundai with good tires only had traction at one front wheel (no traction control, lots of torque steer). Once that wheel got into trouble the car was all over the place. It wasn't pretty. I've driven many FWD cars in the past, including an Audi 5000 that were far superior (they also didn't have traction control). Since adding traction control was not an option, I didn't see the point in continuing to try out new tires to correct a problem that I think wasn't correctable with different tires. I considered buying a new elantra to get traction control, but again the AWD is pretty appealing for the conditions I face within the first mile our of my driveway. I would say that a good percent of the people where I live have AWD vehicles, it makes sense, we are not in downtown Albany, but most people have to travel there (I work in Troy, which is a direction that has more hills, and roads that are less well maintained). My Impreza with all seasons is superior to a Hyundai Elantra FWD with brand new Nokian WRG2's in the snow. I didn't have the Nokians that long, but the treadwear looked superior to the Vredesteins that they replaced (tires that were rated at 50,000 miles but were shot at 15,000 miles -- the dealer honored the prorated tread life warranty when they sold me the Nokians). I will probably buy the Nokians as stated. Every driver/car has a different effect on tread wear, and having driven on them myself I can say traction is adequate for wear I live, and wear should be comparable to other tires. They were noisier than my all seasons were, but that was my only complaint with them. Nokian makes superior tires IMHO. I do have a dedicated winter set up now, but may not keep it depending upon when my Yoko's wear out. My point really remains that buying AWD when you live where AWD isn't necessary is a compromise on MPG's. If you live in an area where safety driving in the snow is an issue, you cannot beat AWD no matter how good your tires are, particularly because if you have a FWD with studded snows, there is no more improvement possible, while if you have an AWD Impreza, you can always turn it into a tank by adding studded snows if that becomes necessary where you drive it. Last edited by Zeeper; 12-12-2012 at 11:32 AM. |
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