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chongl · 10-12-2009, 11:11 PM

Cool...I've seen pics on the net of the DDS3 looking like below. Personally, I think that looks the best out of the DDS3's. Which version is that? Is the adapter something like what is shown here?

Murphdog · 10-13-2009, 05:18 AM

If you were to get a tune on 50/50 and then ran a mix of 60meth/40water would there be any issues with that.

Aquamist · 10-13-2009, 05:10 PM

No. What you have lost on latent heat from water wousdl have been replaced by octane increase due to higher percentage of methanol.

Aquamist · 10-13-2009, 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chongl

Cool...I've seen pics on the net of the DDS3 looking like below. Personally, I think that looks the best out of the DDS3's. Which version is that? Is the adapter something like what is shown here?

Our DDS3 gauge looks nothing like your picture. It doesn't have a red cross in the centre.

chongl · 10-13-2009, 05:42 PM

So I guess that's a photoshop or just something else altogether...

But thanks for answering my questions! Looking to get an HFS system sometime next year

Murphdog · 10-13-2009, 05:48 PM

I'm thinking Richard couldn't see the picture and all that was showing is the box with a red X in it.

Aquamist · 10-13-2009, 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chongl

So I guess that's a photoshop or just something else altogether...

But thanks for answering my questions! Looking to get an HFS system sometime next year

send it to richard@aquamist.co.uk I can open most pictures once arrive.

chongl · 10-13-2009, 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Murphdog

I'm thinking Richard couldn't see the picture and all that was showing is the box with a red X in it.

LOL...that's what he meant...I was like red cross? I don't see one.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aquamist

send it to richard@aquamist.co.uk I can open most pictures once arrive.

Email sent!

Aquamist · 10-13-2009, 07:51 PM

Here is a copy:

triniscoob · 10-20-2009, 03:23 PM

Richard, just asking, but does the PUmp NEED to be installed below the level of the tank for a gravity feed ?

im thinking of instaling a kit and mounting the mpum somewhere in the engine compartment and using my exitsing interoolcer reservior as the meth/water tank.

thoughts please?

I really do NOT want to install anything in my trunk!

Aquamist · 10-21-2009, 05:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by triniscoob

Richard, just asking, but does the PUmp NEED to be installed below the level of the tank for a gravity feed ?

im thinking of instaling a kit and mounting the mpum somewhere in the engine compartment and using my exitsing interoolcer reservior as the meth/water tank.

thoughts please?

I really do NOT want to install anything in my trunk!

The water pump can be installed in any position above the tank, up to 1-2 feet. It will draw the liquid up. This is provided that the pump is fully primed.

If for any reason the system runs dry, you can to re-prime the pump manually. All HFS-xx is equipped with a water level sensor, the system will stop injecting when water level is low, so emptying the tank completely is almost impossible.

We have many users that install the system in the engine bay, just keep the pump from direct heat locations and position away from frequently water spray (road salt).

triniscoob · 10-21-2009, 01:10 PM

thanks, and not to worry about the road spray, we dotn have winter here in the caribbean!

LOL!

Ballistic1350 · 10-21-2009, 02:42 PM

hey I have an HFS-5 and for some reason at wide open throttle when it should be spraying at 100%, my gage only says i'm spraying 75%. How can i fix this? Is it actually spraying full amount and the gage is off or vice versa.

Aquamist · 10-21-2009, 03:06 PM

Can you tell me a bit more about your car. Has the system suddenly dropped down to 75%?

Ballistic1350 · 10-21-2009, 03:09 PM

I run 50/50 in my car. Its a dom3 setup with all supporting mods, which I got tuned by doug at topspeed. The pump is mounted in the trunk using the water tank that comes stock. Oh yeah 04 sti. It has always run only up to 75% and we could never figure it out. Not really sure what else to tell you

triniscoob · 10-21-2009, 03:49 PM

i know Aquamist manufacturers the kits for PERRIN, can the same be sai for the perrin pumps? can they be mounted above the level of the fluid reservior? or does that pupm need graviry?

Currently im trying to use the smallest physical size pump as possible with a good reliability factor for my Meth install.
Any help will be greatly appreciated.

thanks!

Ballistic1350 · 10-21-2009, 04:56 PM

o its also running the largest nozzle that came with the kit. Its triggered off of injector duty cycle as well

Aquamist · 10-21-2009, 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ballistic1350

I run 50/50 in my car. Its a dom3 setup with all supporting mods, which I got tuned by doug at topspeed. The pump is mounted in the trunk using the water tank that comes stock. Oh yeah 04 sti. It has always run only up to 75% and we could never figure it out. Not really sure what else to tell you

You have provided me all I wanted to know perfectly.

The gauge is not meant to read absolute value. It works more like an indicator, much the same as a temperature gauge, L (cold) or H (hot). Under normal operation, it should read some where above 50% during injection.

Top speed would have calibrated the gauge at around 70-75% so that the failsafe can detect regions above or brlow the normal flow. This way the failsafe can detect "clogged" jet and "cut" hose. In this case when flow goes beyond 75%, the failsafe will trigger.

This is the reason why it reads only 75% of full scale under nirmal driving conditions.

Aquamist · 10-21-2009, 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by triniscoob

i know Aquamist manufacturers the kits for PERRIN, can the same be sai for the perrin pumps? can they be mounted above the level of the fluid reservior? or does that pupm need graviry?

Currently im trying to use the smallest physical size pump as possible with a good reliability factor for my Meth install.
Any help will be greatly appreciated.

thanks!

Yes, the same condition applies. Ensure the pump head is facing down.

This system is designed to be fitted in the engine bay area. We have been making this system over the last five years, the design and reliability has been improved constantly as we learn the characteristics of the pump. The first production was for another well known US company, who commissioned us to produce a small PPS system for them. So far we have not far any breakdown report. The price is very well placed amonhst the PPS based system.

I would suggest contact Perrin for your technical support as Jeff knows a great deal more than I do - we have never made this system under the Aquamist brand.

Aquamist · 10-21-2009, 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ballistic1350

I run 50/50 in my car. Its a dom3 setup with all supporting mods, which I got tuned by doug at topspeed. The pump is mounted in the trunk using the water tank that comes stock. Oh yeah 04 sti. It has always run only up to 75% and we could never figure it out. Not really sure what else to tell you

If you are not using the failsafe, you can use the "SC" trimmer to extend the bargraph range.

Ballistic1350 · 10-21-2009, 09:47 PM

hey thanks alot, I'm really glad I went with your product!

Aquamist · 10-25-2009, 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ballistic1350

hey thanks alot, I'm really glad I went with your product!

Failsafe is not the main reason for going with aquamist. Your system is identical to an OE fuel inejction system. Wide operating range and fast response to load change in any gears.

NE1AWD · 11-06-2009, 08:10 PM

i have a few question posted on the Waterinjection Forum

http://www.aquamist.co.uk/phpBB2/vie...?p=11880#11880

triniscoob · 11-07-2009, 09:03 AM

Where do you normally recommend INSTALLING the

1) DDS3V8 Junction board

2) Fia2 Fuel injection amplifier

Are these 2 recommended for Inside cabin install or are they safe to install in the engine bay?

I have been reading and i figure that i will install the flow sensor on a side egeine bay wall and make a custom cover for water protection purposes.

Please let em know where Your company usually installs these 2 boxes.

thank you

Aquamist · 11-08-2009, 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by triniscoob

Where do you normally recommend INSTALLING the

1) DDS3V8 Junction board

2) Fia2 Fuel injection amplifier

Are these 2 recommended for Inside cabin install or are they safe to install in the engine bay?

I have been reading and i figure that i will install the flow sensor on a side egeine bay wall and make a custom cover for water protection purposes.

Please let em know where Your company usually installs these 2 boxes.

thank you

1) DDS3v8 junction board in the glove compartment area, allow 2 feet of loose cable for ease of diagnostic work.

2) The FIA2 can also be installed in the same area. Avoid engine bay if possible.

Your suggestion of the location for the water flow sensor is perfect. It is 100% water proof.

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10-12-2009, 11:11 PM	#2476
chongl Scooby Newbie Member#: 187694 Join Date: Aug 2008 Chapter/Region: SCIC Location: Socal (SD and 626) Vehicle: 2009 WRX Sedan WRB Mica	Cool...I've seen pics on the net of the DDS3 looking like below. Personally, I think that looks the best out of the DDS3's. Which version is that? Is the adapter something like what is shown here?

10-13-2009, 05:18 AM	#2477
Murphdog Scooby Newbie Member#: 75414 Join Date: Nov 2004 Chapter/Region: RMIC Location: Wyoming Vehicle: 2004 STi WRB	If you were to get a tune on 50/50 and then ran a mix of 60meth/40water would there be any issues with that.

10-13-2009, 05:10 PM	#2478
Aquamist NASIOC Manufacturer Member#: 110029 Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Sussex, England Vehicle: 2004 Citroen Picasso Silver	No. What you have lost on latent heat from water wousdl have been replaced by octane increase due to higher percentage of methanol.

10-13-2009, 05:42 PM	#2480
chongl Scooby Newbie Member#: 187694 Join Date: Aug 2008 Chapter/Region: SCIC Location: Socal (SD and 626) Vehicle: 2009 WRX Sedan WRB Mica	So I guess that's a photoshop or just something else altogether... But thanks for answering my questions! Looking to get an HFS system sometime next year

10-13-2009, 05:48 PM	#2481
Murphdog Scooby Newbie Member#: 75414 Join Date: Nov 2004 Chapter/Region: RMIC Location: Wyoming Vehicle: 2004 STi WRB	I'm thinking Richard couldn't see the picture and all that was showing is the box with a red X in it.

10-13-2009, 07:51 PM	#2484
Aquamist NASIOC Manufacturer Member#: 110029 Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Sussex, England Vehicle: 2004 Citroen Picasso Silver	Here is a copy:

10-20-2009, 03:23 PM	#2485
triniscoob Scooby Newbie Member#: 143225 Join Date: Mar 2007	Richard, just asking, but does the PUmp NEED to be installed below the level of the tank for a gravity feed ? im thinking of instaling a kit and mounting the mpum somewhere in the engine compartment and using my exitsing interoolcer reservior as the meth/water tank. thoughts please? I really do NOT want to install anything in my trunk!

10-21-2009, 01:10 PM	#2487
triniscoob Scooby Newbie Member#: 143225 Join Date: Mar 2007	thanks, and not to worry about the road spray, we dotn have winter here in the caribbean! LOL!

10-21-2009, 02:42 PM	#2488
Ballistic1350 Scooby Newbie Member#: 156877 Join Date: Aug 2007 Chapter/Region: South East Location: Georgia Vehicle: 2004 STI WRB	hey I have an HFS-5 and for some reason at wide open throttle when it should be spraying at 100%, my gage only says i'm spraying 75%. How can i fix this? Is it actually spraying full amount and the gage is off or vice versa.

10-21-2009, 03:06 PM	#2489
Aquamist NASIOC Manufacturer Member#: 110029 Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Sussex, England Vehicle: 2004 Citroen Picasso Silver	Can you tell me a bit more about your car. Has the system suddenly dropped down to 75%?

10-21-2009, 03:09 PM	#2490
Ballistic1350 Scooby Newbie Member#: 156877 Join Date: Aug 2007 Chapter/Region: South East Location: Georgia Vehicle: 2004 STI WRB	I run 50/50 in my car. Its a dom3 setup with all supporting mods, which I got tuned by doug at topspeed. The pump is mounted in the trunk using the water tank that comes stock. Oh yeah 04 sti. It has always run only up to 75% and we could never figure it out. Not really sure what else to tell you

10-21-2009, 03:49 PM	#2491
triniscoob Scooby Newbie Member#: 143225 Join Date: Mar 2007	i know Aquamist manufacturers the kits for PERRIN, can the same be sai for the perrin pumps? can they be mounted above the level of the fluid reservior? or does that pupm need graviry? Currently im trying to use the smallest physical size pump as possible with a good reliability factor for my Meth install. Any help will be greatly appreciated. thanks!

10-21-2009, 04:56 PM	#2492
Ballistic1350 Scooby Newbie Member#: 156877 Join Date: Aug 2007 Chapter/Region: South East Location: Georgia Vehicle: 2004 STI WRB	o its also running the largest nozzle that came with the kit. Its triggered off of injector duty cycle as well

10-21-2009, 09:47 PM	#2496
Ballistic1350 Scooby Newbie Member#: 156877 Join Date: Aug 2007 Chapter/Region: South East Location: Georgia Vehicle: 2004 STI WRB	hey thanks alot, I'm really glad I went with your product!

11-06-2009, 08:10 PM	#2498
NE1AWD Scooby Newbie Member#: 166753 Join Date: Dec 2007 Chapter/Region: SCIC Location: Rancho Cucamonga CA Vehicle: 2004 Forester xt 6mt psm	i have a few question posted on the Waterinjection Forum http://www.aquamist.co.uk/phpBB2/vie...?p=11880#11880

11-07-2009, 09:03 AM	#2499
triniscoob Scooby Newbie Member#: 143225 Join Date: Mar 2007	Where do you normally recommend INSTALLING the 1) DDS3V8 Junction board 2) Fia2 Fuel injection amplifier Are these 2 recommended for Inside cabin install or are they safe to install in the engine bay? I have been reading and i figure that i will install the flow sensor on a side egeine bay wall and make a custom cover for water protection purposes. Please let em know where Your company usually installs these 2 boxes. thank you